Should Israel switch to an FPTP system

[OSR stands with Israel]

I would definitely say yes because it would bring more stability to Israel and would also make it easier for a party to be kicked out if enough voters think they are doing a bad choice.

In many ways India and Israel are very similar and I would argue FPTP helped make India far more stable than it would have been without it.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I could maybe see Israel split into several PR districts instead of the current nationwide PR.  Even if one thinks they should eventually end up at FPTP or MMP, I think that would be a necessary first step, so any systemic reform should go no farther than breaking Israel up into multiple districts for PR.

Besides, if they don't want small parties, increasing the threshold would achieve that goal without disrupting the national PR system.

[America Needs R'hllor]

No, Netanyahu is close enough to dictatorship as it is.

[DC Al Fine]

No. Israel is sufficiently diverse that an FPTP system could really screw a group and more or less cut them out of the electoral process. Reform PR may be, but FPTP is not a good fit for this  country.

[OSR stands with Israel]

No. Israel is sufficiently diverse that an FPTP system could really screw a group and more or less cut them out of the electoral process. Reform PR may be, but FPTP is not a good fit for this  country.

India is also very diverse and yet FPTP has worked pretty well
 

No, Netanyahu is close enough to dictatorship as it is.

Likud would have more power for the short term but it would be easier to throw them out as well as in an FPTP system , getting less than 27-28% would get you thrown out of office by a large margin while in Propertional it may not

[Politician]

No (sane)

[DavidB.]

No, they should switch to a Mixed Member Majoritarian system: half FPTP, half PR.

[Intell]

A country shouldn't care about stability in it's electoral system, it should care about democracy and FPTP is not democratic.

[Medal506]

How about if you're not a Jew you don't have a right to comment on anything regarding Israel. You know the same way if you're not a woman you don't have a right to comment on abortion. 😉

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I would definitely say yes because it would bring more stability to Israel and would also make it easier for a party to be kicked out if enough voters think they are doing a bad choice.

Those are kind of contradictory.

[OSR stands with Israel]

I would definitely say yes because it would bring more stability to Israel and would also make it easier for a party to be kicked out if enough voters think they are doing a bad choice.

Those are kind of contradictory.

A country shouldn't care about stability in it's electoral system, it should care about democracy and FPTP is not democratic.

Nope the reason is the incumbent/establishment party usually can count of a bloc of 20%-25% of support at the worst and in a proportional system due to their being so many different opposition parties that amount would give them the best chance out of all the parties to put together a coalition goverment.


But in FPTP even if you get 30%(instead of say 20-25% )of the vote your party is going to be thrown out of office.



FPTP forces you to get at least 35% of the vote to win .

[mileslunn]

I said yes, although I think the best system is go to AV (which I think is the best system overall) and that way rather than creating mergers that don't like a lot of sense, you let voters decide which party they want while producing stability.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

No because FPTP is garbage.

Some other voting method that's district-based, maybe.

[Medal506]

How about if you're not a Jew you don't have a right to comment on anything regarding Israel. You know the same way if you're not a woman you don't have a right to comment on abortion. 😉

well, that's one way to give up the democratic pretentions

Nah you know we don't want white males making rules regarding women's health care the same way we don't want them making rules surrounding Jewish human rights.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

How about if you're not a Jew you don't have a right to comment on anything regarding Israel. You know the same way if you're not a woman you don't have a right to comment on abortion. 😉

well, that's one way to give up the democratic pretentions

[Medal506]

A country shouldn't care about stability in it's electoral system, it should care about democracy and FPTP is not democratic.

Maybe we should take a look at apartheid Iraq and apartheid Iran and virtually the entire apartheid Middle East which is dominated by one religious group that is vowing to commit mass Genocide on everyone who's not apart of their group. You know since you care about democracy so much 😉

[Intell]

A country shouldn't care about stability in it's electoral system, it should care about democracy and FPTP is not democratic.

Maybe we should take a look at apartheid Iraq and apartheid Iran and virtually the entire apartheid Middle East which is dominated by one religious group that is vowing to commit mass Genocide on everyone who's not apart of their group. You know since you care about democracy so much 😉

How does this relate to FPTP hinders democracy. That is the same in the US, UK and any country that uses such a system.

But sure anything said about Isreal is responded to with "anti-Semitism" or "What about Iraq/Iran"
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[Medal506]

A country shouldn't care about stability in it's electoral system, it should care about democracy and FPTP is not democratic.

Maybe we should take a look at apartheid Iraq and apartheid Iran and virtually the entire apartheid Middle East which is dominated by one religious group that is vowing to commit mass Genocide on everyone who's not apart of their group. You know since you care about democracy so much 😉

How does this relate to FPTP hinders democracy. That is the same in the US, UK and any country that uses such a system.

But sure anything said about Isreal is responded to with "anti-Semitism" or "What about Iraq/Iran"
"

Yep and anytime anyone says that they want to deport illegal aliens the response is "racism"

[Medal506]

A country shouldn't care about stability in it's electoral system, it should care about democracy and FPTP is not democratic.

Maybe we should take a look at apartheid Iraq and apartheid Iran and virtually the entire apartheid Middle East which is dominated by one religious group that is vowing to commit mass Genocide on everyone who's not apart of their group. You know since you care about democracy so much 😉

How does this relate to FPTP hinders democracy. That is the same in the US, UK and any country that uses such a system.

But sure anything said about Isreal is responded to with "anti-Semitism" or "What about Iraq/Iran"
"

Since we don't want white males making rules on women's health we don't want non Jews deciding Jewish human rights.

[DC Al Fine]

A country shouldn't care about stability in it's electoral system, it should care about democracy and FPTP is not democratic.

Maybe we should take a look at apartheid Iraq and apartheid Iran and virtually the entire apartheid Middle East which is dominated by one religious group that is vowing to commit mass Genocide on everyone who's not apart of their group. You know since you care about democracy so much 

How does this relate to FPTP hinders democracy. That is the same in the US, UK and any country that uses such a system.

But sure anything said about Isreal is responded to with "anti-Semitism" or "What about Iraq/Iran"
"

Since we don't want white males making rules on women's health we don't want non Jews deciding Jewish human rights.

Ayylmao

[Medal506]

A country shouldn't care about stability in it's electoral system, it should care about democracy and FPTP is not democratic.

Maybe we should take a look at apartheid Iraq and apartheid Iran and virtually the entire apartheid Middle East which is dominated by one religious group that is vowing to commit mass Genocide on everyone who's not apart of their group. You know since you care about democracy so much 

How does this relate to FPTP hinders democracy. That is the same in the US, UK and any country that uses such a system.

But sure anything said about Isreal is responded to with "anti-Semitism" or "What about Iraq/Iran"
"

Yep and anytime anyone says that they want to deport illegal aliens the response is "racism"

Since we don't want white males making rules on women's health we don't want non Jews deciding Jewish human rights.

Ayylmao

Interesting how you cut the last quote out. Anyways you have no real response because you know I'm right.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

How about if you're not a Jew you don't have a right to comment on anything regarding Israel. You know the same way if you're not a woman you don't have a right to comment on abortion. 😉

And all the non Jews (Druze, Arabs etc) that live in Israel should just go and get bent?

[DC Al Fine]

A country shouldn't care about stability in it's electoral system, it should care about democracy and FPTP is not democratic.

Maybe we should take a look at apartheid Iraq and apartheid Iran and virtually the entire apartheid Middle East which is dominated by one religious group that is vowing to commit mass Genocide on everyone who's not apart of their group. You know since you care about democracy so much 

How does this relate to FPTP hinders democracy. That is the same in the US, UK and any country that uses such a system.

But sure anything said about Isreal is responded to with "anti-Semitism" or "What about Iraq/Iran"
"

Yep and anytime anyone says that they want to deport illegal aliens the response is "racism"

Since we don't want white males making rules on women's health we don't want non Jews deciding Jewish human rights.

Ayylmao

Interesting how you cut the last quote out. Anyways you have no real response because you know I'm right.

I'm agreeing with you silly. I just thought your response was funny.

[Medal506]

How about if you're not a Jew you don't have a right to comment on anything regarding Israel. You know the same way if you're not a woman you don't have a right to comment on abortion. 😉

And all the non Jews (Druze, Arabs etc) that live in Israel should just go and get bent?

Hey we don't need non Jews commenting on wether Jewish people deserve human rights the same way we don't need white males deciding what a woman does with her own body. Even if that means a woman killing a living being that is inside her body 😉.

[Medal506]

A country shouldn't care about stability in it's electoral system, it should care about democracy and FPTP is not democratic.

Maybe we should take a look at apartheid Iraq and apartheid Iran and virtually the entire apartheid Middle East which is dominated by one religious group that is vowing to commit mass Genocide on everyone who's not apart of their group. You know since you care about democracy so much 

How does this relate to FPTP hinders democracy. That is the same in the US, UK and any country that uses such a system.

But sure anything said about Isreal is responded to with "anti-Semitism" or "What about Iraq/Iran"
"

Yep and anytime anyone says that they want to deport illegal aliens the response is "racism"

Since we don't want white males making rules on women's health we don't want non Jews deciding Jewish human rights.

Ayylmao

Interesting how you cut the last quote out. Anyways you have no real response because you know I'm right.

I'm agreeing with you silly. I just thought your response was funny.

My apologies.