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« Reply #1250 on: September 26, 2018, 12:28:51 PM »

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« Reply #1251 on: September 26, 2018, 12:29:53 PM »

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« Reply #1252 on: September 26, 2018, 12:32:31 PM »

Jeff Flake...Flaked, as per usual.

I hope he does the right thing.
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« Reply #1253 on: September 26, 2018, 12:34:09 PM »

I'm just wondering, but is Cory Gardner really going to vote for Kavanaugh? He represents what is effectively a blue state now (full of white college graduates and only getting bluer), and this vote is going to kill him in 2020. This isn't something mundane like documents, this is about sexual assault and evidently now, gang rape.

And for that matter, Tillis should really be thinking this over too.
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« Reply #1254 on: September 26, 2018, 12:34:24 PM »

Jeff Flake...Flaked, as per usual.

I hope he does the right thing.

Jeff Flake is a reverse eponym.
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« Reply #1255 on: September 26, 2018, 12:36:46 PM »

I'm just wondering, but is Cory Gardner really going to vote for Kavanaugh? He represents what is effectively a blue state now (full of white college graduates and only getting bluer), and this vote is going to kill him in 2020. This isn't something mundane like documents, this is about sexual assault and evidently now, gang rape.

And for that matter, Tillis should really be thinking this over too.

Gardner only said he supports a senate investigation into Ford and Ramirez's claims.
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« Reply #1256 on: September 26, 2018, 12:39:26 PM »

I'm just wondering, but is Cory Gardner really going to vote for Kavanaugh? He represents what is effectively a blue state now (full of white college graduates and only getting bluer), and this vote is going to kill him in 2020. This isn't something mundane like documents, this is about sexual assault and evidently now, gang rape.

And for that matter, Tillis should really be thinking this over too.

For whatever reason, Republican politicians are way more scared of losing primaries than general elections, even though the latter happens much more often.
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« Reply #1257 on: September 26, 2018, 01:08:14 PM »

I really hope at least Collins and Murkowski do the right thing. This whole thing is making me sick.
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« Reply #1258 on: September 26, 2018, 01:09:20 PM »

Oh boy, it's gonna get worse:



This’ll be fun. Even before the hearings tomorrow.

If the Orange Buffoon takes "personal charge" of K's SC destiny, then K is surely done.
Anything that moron touches becomes a complete disaster.
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« Reply #1259 on: September 26, 2018, 01:14:55 PM »
« Edited: September 26, 2018, 01:26:32 PM by shua »

Theory: Kavanaugh is claiming to be a choir boy virgin in high school despite all the evidence to the contrary because that's what he told his wife he was like back then and doesn't want to admit to a decades old lie to her.

He never claimed to be a choir boy. He never claimed he didn't drink regularly. He never claimed he didn't act like an idiot. What he claimed is he was a virgin, he didn't assault anyone or participate in any assaults on anyone, and he never drank in such a way that he couldn't remember what happened after.
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« Reply #1260 on: September 26, 2018, 01:18:31 PM »



Does seem kind of weird to me at least that a woman would keep going to such parties.
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« Reply #1261 on: September 26, 2018, 01:19:16 PM »

I really hope at least Collins and Murkowski do the right thing. This whole thing is making me sick.

Not sure where this hope comes from, since they certainly don't have a history of doing the right thing yet.
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« Reply #1262 on: September 26, 2018, 01:21:13 PM »

If Flake or any other Republican joins all the Dems on the Judiciary Committee to vote it down in committee, then is that the end of it?  Or can McConnell move it to a vote of the full Senate even if the committee votes it down?  (Whether he'd want to if it looks like he's going to lose is a separate question.)
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« Reply #1263 on: September 26, 2018, 01:25:41 PM »

If Flake or any other Republican joins all the Dems on the Judiciary Committee to vote it down in committee, then is that the end of it?  Or can McConnell move it to a vote of the full Senate even if the committee votes it down?  (Whether he'd want to if it looks like he's going to lose is a separate question.)


The committee vote is a formality, it doesn't actually matter.
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« Reply #1264 on: September 26, 2018, 01:26:20 PM »

If Flake or any other Republican joins all the Dems on the Judiciary Committee to vote it down in committee, then is that the end of it?  Or can McConnell move it to a vote of the full Senate even if the committee votes it down?  (Whether he'd want to if it looks like he's going to lose is a separate question.)


My understanding is that McConnell can bring it to a floor vote even without the Judicial Committee's recommendation.
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« Reply #1265 on: September 26, 2018, 01:27:00 PM »

If Flake or any other Republican joins all the Dems on the Judiciary Committee to vote it down in committee, then is that the end of it?  Or can McConnell move it to a vote of the full Senate even if the committee votes it down?  (Whether he'd want to if it looks like he's going to lose is a separate question.)


My understanding is that McConnell can bring it to a floor vote even without the Judicial Committee's recommendation.

Which he undoubtedly will.
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« Reply #1266 on: September 26, 2018, 01:28:07 PM »



Does seem kind of weird to me at least that a woman would keep going to such parties.

I know this is now the de facto line of defense after this morning's affidavit, but it's completely ignorant as to how youth parties work even in the 2010s. Did none of you attend a frat party in college?
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« Reply #1267 on: September 26, 2018, 01:30:28 PM »
« Edited: September 26, 2018, 01:43:54 PM by pppolitics »



Does seem kind of weird to me at least that a woman would keep going to such parties.

I know this is now the de facto line of defense after this morning's affidavit, but it's completely ignorant as to how youth parties work even in the 2010s. Did none of you attend a frat party in college?

I went to a sh**t tons of them last year.

My University is pretty infamous for parties.

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« Reply #1268 on: September 26, 2018, 01:31:56 PM »

If Flake or any other Republican joins all the Dems on the Judiciary Committee to vote it down in committee, then is that the end of it?  Or can McConnell move it to a vote of the full Senate even if the committee votes it down?  (Whether he'd want to if it looks like he's going to lose is a separate question.)


My understanding is that McConnell can bring it to a floor vote even without the Judicial Committee's recommendation.

Which he undoubtedly will.

If McConnell can't get a commitment of all the Republicans on the Committee that they'll vote yes, I think he'll delay the committee vote until he does.  There'd be too much pressure on swing state Republicans to vote no if it's clear there's no unified front and the opposition can't be dismissed as partisan.
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« Reply #1269 on: September 26, 2018, 01:32:14 PM »

Kavanaugh's support is collapsing:

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« Reply #1270 on: September 26, 2018, 01:35:18 PM »

These were McConnell's floor remarks today:

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On the committee stuff: The committee will first entertain a motion to report the nomination favorably. If this fails, the committee will then entertain a motion to report the nomination with no recommendation. If this fails, the committee will then entertain a motion to report the nomination with an unfavorable recommendation. All that the nomination needs to proceed is to succeed on any one of these motions, and only if all three fail would it be held up in committee indefinitely.
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« Reply #1271 on: September 26, 2018, 01:35:44 PM »




I love Avenatti's response here.
He is not a coward to call the Orange Buffoon out for what he truly is.
"Let's Go."
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« Reply #1272 on: September 26, 2018, 01:38:37 PM »

Kavanaugh's support is collapsing:



and this was conducted Sept. 20-23. There could have been further movement since then.
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« Reply #1273 on: September 26, 2018, 01:47:28 PM »

I'm just wondering, but is Cory Gardner really going to vote for Kavanaugh? He represents what is effectively a blue state now (full of white college graduates and only getting bluer), and this vote is going to kill him in 2020. This isn't something mundane like documents, this is about sexual assault and evidently now, gang rape.

And for that matter, Tillis should really be thinking this over too.

For whatever reason, Republican politicians are way more scared of losing primaries than general elections, even though the latter happens much more often.

The latter happens much more often specifically because they're so scared of losing in primaries that they do what they need to do to win them, in general.
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« Reply #1274 on: September 26, 2018, 01:50:08 PM »



Does seem kind of weird to me at least that a woman would keep going to such parties.

I know this is now the de facto line of defense after this morning's affidavit, but it's completely ignorant as to how youth parties work even in the 2010s. Did none of you attend a frat party in college?

No, and if gang rapes are normal at such events and even the women treat it nonchalantly I'm even more glad I didn't.
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