Does a Jim Webb type of guy can become the democratic nominee?

[christian peralta]

I mean, a moderate or conservative democrat could won the nomination of his party. And if he becomes the nominee, could he win the presidential election?

[IceSpear]

No, a guy who couldn't crack 1% of the vote and who endosed Trump has no chance of being the Democratic nominee.

[Hammy]

Why do people keep asking/thinking that the Dems key to winning is becoming a GOP clone?

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

Why do people keep asking/thinking that the Dems key to winning is becoming a GOP clone?

To win over the imaginary "centrist" independent

[Orser67]

No, the strongest possible version of a Jim Webb-type might win a few primaries in the South (where there are some ancestral, conservative Democrats) but they would have no chance at winning the nomination.

If he did win the nomination, I could see him winning the presidential election, though a lot of liberal Democratic voters would probably stay home or vote third party.

[Florida Man for Crime]

Ted Cruz is more likely to lose than Democrats are to nominate a Jim Webb type of guy. Definitely not happening.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Ted Cruz is more likely to lose than Democrats are to nominate a Jim Webb type of guy. Definitely not happening.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

No, it will be Booker or Biden

[Hammy]

Why do people keep asking/thinking that the Dems key to winning is becoming a GOP clone?

Jim Webb is a liberal, and the most liberal you’re gonna get if you want a democrat in office.

Ah yes, because Obama never got elected to two terms.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Why do people keep asking/thinking that the Dems key to winning is becoming a GOP clone?

[IceSpear]

Why do people keep asking/thinking that the Dems key to winning is becoming a GOP clone?

The same people were saying Republicans needed a Charlie Baker/Olympia Snowe ticket to even have a chance of winning in 2016, lol.

Americans do not vote based off ideology.

[White Trash]

I don't think so. But I am more than convinced that the Democratic base is willing to sacrifice social issues for economic ones, and although I may be biased, I think it is possible for a socially conservative Democratic to win the nomination if they were far enough to the left on economic issues.

[Fuzzy Bear]

No, a guy who couldn't crack 1% of the vote and who endosed Trump has no chance of being the Democratic nominee.

Webb did not endorse Trump.  He said that he wouldn't vote for Clinton, but he might vote for Trump.

Still, that's enough to end Webb's career as a Democratic Presidential possibility.  He conspicuously did not endorse Clinton and he didn't endorse Obama in 2012, although that refusal was much more under the radar.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Webb betrayed his party after Dems helped him get elected in 2006, sort of what Zell Miller did.

[Dr. Arch]

>"Democrat"
>Endorsed Trump

Bye

[Frodo]

I voted and canvassed for Jim Webb in 2006, and he was an excellent senator for my state (as is Senators Mark Warner and Tim Kaine), and I would gladly have voted for him again in 2012 had he run. However, he (like other successful statewide Virginia Democrats) was never as good a fit for the national stage.   I think their era has long since passed, though not in Virginia. 

[Senator Spark]

Nope, way too moderate.

[RINO Tom]

Why do people keep asking/thinking that the Dems key to winning is becoming a GOP clone?

You would make a better point if Jim Webb were a GOP clone.

[Adam Griffin]

He conspicuously did not endorse Clinton and he didn't endorse Obama in 2012, although that refusal was much more under the radar.

I mean, that's likely a technicality more than anything:

[SN2903]

No Webb is of the JFK wing of the party and it is pretty much gone...it is the Sanders/Cortez party now.

[Statilius the Epicurean]

No Webb is of the JFK wing of the party and it is pretty much gone...it is the Sanders/Cortez party now.

Lmao, I guarantee you there were people saying the exact same thing 50+ years ago. "I'm a JFK Democrat and we're not welcome in the party anymore, it's full of commies like McGovern now."

[Beet]

The Dems LOVED Webb when he ran in 2006. He was the left-wing insurgent candidate in the primary, the Daily Kos darling against business lobbyist Harris Miller. Then in the General Election, they were ecstatic when video surfaced showing Ronald Reagan richly praising Webb's service as Secretary of the Navy. They used Reagan's words to heavy effect, touting them constantly. Then, they were ecstatic again when Webb narrowly defeated George Allen, handing them control of the Senate.

However, by 2015 Webb was persona non grata in the party.

It shows how far to the left the Democrats moved, and how arrogant they were to assume they could do that without a cost.

[IceSpear]

The Dems LOVED Webb when he ran in 2006. He was the left-wing insurgent candidate in the primary, the Daily Kos darling against business lobbyist Harris Miller. Then in the General Election, they were ecstatic when video surfaced showing Ronald Reagan richly praising Webb's service as Secretary of the Navy. They used Reagan's words to heavy effect, touting them constantly. Then, they were ecstatic again when Webb narrowly defeated George Allen, handing them control of the Senate.

However, by 2015 Webb was persona non grata in the party.

It shows how far to the left the Democrats moved, and how arrogant they were to assume they could do that without a cost.

Webb wasn't persona non grata until he started sounding like an alt righter and supporting Trump. People just didn't support him for president because he was a washed up has been with the charisma of a dingy washcloth.

[Beet]

The Dems LOVED Webb when he ran in 2006. He was the left-wing insurgent candidate in the primary, the Daily Kos darling against business lobbyist Harris Miller. Then in the General Election, they were ecstatic when video surfaced showing Ronald Reagan richly praising Webb's service as Secretary of the Navy. They used Reagan's words to heavy effect, touting them constantly. Then, they were ecstatic again when Webb narrowly defeated George Allen, handing them control of the Senate.

However, by 2015 Webb was persona non grata in the party.

It shows how far to the left the Democrats moved, and how arrogant they were to assume they could do that without a cost.

Webb wasn't persona non grata until he started sounding like an alt righter and supporting Trump. People just didn't support him for president because he was a washed up has been with the charisma of a dingy washcloth.

Where did he change his views? People just tagged the label "alt right" to him when he's not. And Trump himself was a Democrat in the Bush years, so that just reinforces my point even more. Webb wasn't even the most conservative Democrat back then.

[Fuzzy Bear]

The Dems LOVED Webb when he ran in 2006. He was the left-wing insurgent candidate in the primary, the Daily Kos darling against business lobbyist Harris Miller. Then in the General Election, they were ecstatic when video surfaced showing Ronald Reagan richly praising Webb's service as Secretary of the Navy. They used Reagan's words to heavy effect, touting them constantly. Then, they were ecstatic again when Webb narrowly defeated George Allen, handing them control of the Senate.

However, by 2015 Webb was persona non grata in the party.

It shows how far to the left the Democrats moved, and how arrogant they were to assume they could do that without a cost.

Webb wasn't persona non grata until he started sounding like an alt righter and supporting Trump. People just didn't support him for president because he was a washed up has been with the charisma of a dingy washcloth.

Where did he change his views? People just tagged the label "alt right" to him when he's not. And Trump himself was a Democrat in the Bush years, so that just reinforces my point even more. Webb wasn't even the most conservative Democrat back then.

Webb had a better ADA rating than Mark Warner every year but one that they were in the Senate together.