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« Reply #75 on: August 28, 2018, 06:03:27 PM »

If the GOP successfully blocks this, I don't EVER want them to use the whole "The Dems are the Party of the KKK and Segregation!" talking point EVER again.
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« Reply #76 on: August 28, 2018, 06:05:48 PM »

If the GOP successfully blocks this, I don't EVER want them to use the whole "The Dems are the Party of the KKK and Segregation!" EVER again.

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« Reply #77 on: August 28, 2018, 06:42:44 PM »

I guess we should just be grateful Trump didn't tweet "Lying John McCain can't even die right.  Sad" or something like that.
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« Reply #78 on: August 29, 2018, 12:15:09 AM »

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/richard-russell-mccain-senate_us_5b8587a1e4b0511db3d22bd4

Senate Republicans are already opposing the name change, but the jewel of the article is this:

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Hilarious!

Perdue holds Russell's seat, if I am not mistaken. He is one of the worst Republican members of the Senate, along with Tom Cotton and Jim Inhofe. It's such a shame that even a measure like this won't earn unanimous approval.
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« Reply #79 on: August 29, 2018, 12:35:42 AM »

This cannot be allowed to happen. Naming anything after McCain would attach a whole new level of wickedness to its structure.
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« Reply #80 on: August 29, 2018, 08:39:08 AM »

McConnell has blocked it, is afraid to piss off Trump.
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« Reply #81 on: August 29, 2018, 08:48:36 AM »

Google Maps has already made the change.
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« Reply #82 on: August 29, 2018, 09:06:00 AM »

I like John McCain, but I'd rather rename the building after Bob Dole instead...if it has to be Senate Republican who served a long time.

Dole was a party leader for many years. McCain on the other hand, spent most of his career fighting leadership at every turn.

They can always rename Dirksen or Hart after him.
Not Dirksen, it is a crime of history that avowed racist LBJ is remembered for civil rights when Everett Dirksen did all the heavy lifting

lol, Republicans love this myth.
It is not a myth, pretty much every account of the 1964 civil rights bill backs this up

Dirksen helped secure votes for the bills final passage, but he didn't do the heavy lifting.
Objectively speaking, Dirksen had a larger role in the bill, LBJ was just able to get in front of the cameras

Lmao.....just no.

Dirksen played zero role in the crafting of the bill (that was all on LBJ and the liberal wing of the Democratic party). Again, Dirksen deserves credit for doing the right thing and getting his people to vote for it, but he was very much the junior partner in all of this.


Lol Dirksen wrote much of the bill and was the one who introduced it, LBJ was an avowed racist who only came around to civil rights when it suited him politically. He had a record very much similar to that of Strom Thurmond and John Sparkman when he himself was in the senate

Moron Republicans really have to wrap themselves around this in order to avoid the fact that there's is today the party of Goldwater and Trump. LBJ was not a personal racist. At least less so than most men born in the early 20th century. It was he who champion and the Civil Rights bill from the White House. Get over yourself, and read some history that isn't on YouTube videos
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« Reply #83 on: August 29, 2018, 09:23:29 AM »

I like John McCain, but I'd rather rename the building after Bob Dole instead...if it has to be Senate Republican who served a long time.

Dole was a party leader for many years. McCain on the other hand, spent most of his career fighting leadership at every turn.

They can always rename Dirksen or Hart after him.
Not Dirksen, it is a crime of history that avowed racist LBJ is remembered for civil rights when Everett Dirksen did all the heavy lifting

lol, Republicans love this myth.
It is not a myth, pretty much every account of the 1964 civil rights bill backs this up

Dirksen helped secure votes for the bills final passage, but he didn't do the heavy lifting.
Objectively speaking, Dirksen had a larger role in the bill, LBJ was just able to get in front of the cameras

Lmao.....just no.

Dirksen played zero role in the crafting of the bill (that was all on LBJ and the liberal wing of the Democratic party). Again, Dirksen deserves credit for doing the right thing and getting his people to vote for it, but he was very much the junior partner in all of this.


Lol Dirksen wrote much of the bill and was the one who introduced it, LBJ was an avowed racist who only came around to civil rights when it suited him politically. He had a record very much similar to that of Strom Thurmond and John Sparkman when he himself was in the senate

Moron Republicans really have to wrap themselves around this in order to avoid the fact that there's is today the party of Goldwater and Trump. LBJ was not a personal racist. At least less so than most men born in the early 20th century. It was he who champion and the Civil Rights bill from the White House. Get over yourself, and read some history that isn't on YouTube videos

LBJ was a racist and that is a fact. It's laughable for anyone to say "oh well he signed a civil rights bill" to justify him not being a racist
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« Reply #84 on: August 29, 2018, 09:28:51 AM »

I like John McCain, but I'd rather rename the building after Bob Dole instead...if it has to be Senate Republican who served a long time.

Dole was a party leader for many years. McCain on the other hand, spent most of his career fighting leadership at every turn.

They can always rename Dirksen or Hart after him.
Not Dirksen, it is a crime of history that avowed racist LBJ is remembered for civil rights when Everett Dirksen did all the heavy lifting

lol, Republicans love this myth.
It is not a myth, pretty much every account of the 1964 civil rights bill backs this up

Dirksen helped secure votes for the bills final passage, but he didn't do the heavy lifting.
Objectively speaking, Dirksen had a larger role in the bill, LBJ was just able to get in front of the cameras

Lmao.....just no.

Dirksen played zero role in the crafting of the bill (that was all on LBJ and the liberal wing of the Democratic party). Again, Dirksen deserves credit for doing the right thing and getting his people to vote for it, but he was very much the junior partner in all of this.


Lol Dirksen wrote much of the bill and was the one who introduced it, LBJ was an avowed racist who only came around to civil rights when it suited him politically. He had a record very much similar to that of Strom Thurmond and John Sparkman when he himself was in the senate

Moron Republicans really have to wrap themselves around this in order to avoid the fact that there's is today the party of Goldwater and Trump. LBJ was not a personal racist. At least less so than most men born in the early 20th century. It was he who champion and the Civil Rights bill from the White House. Get over yourself, and read some history that isn't on YouTube videos

LBJ was a racist and that is a fact. It's laughable for anyone to say "oh well he signed a civil rights bill" to justify him not being a racist
LBJ wasn't a racist. He had to pretend to be one in order to get elected at the time.

No racist would push forward the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The Democratic Party lost an entire region of the country and the very same region that LBJ was from. Why would a racist risk doing that when he easily could have done nothing?
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« Reply #85 on: August 29, 2018, 09:43:15 AM »

I like John McCain, but I'd rather rename the building after Bob Dole instead...if it has to be Senate Republican who served a long time.

Dole was a party leader for many years. McCain on the other hand, spent most of his career fighting leadership at every turn.

They can always rename Dirksen or Hart after him.
Not Dirksen, it is a crime of history that avowed racist LBJ is remembered for civil rights when Everett Dirksen did all the heavy lifting

lol, Republicans love this myth.
It is not a myth, pretty much every account of the 1964 civil rights bill backs this up

Dirksen helped secure votes for the bills final passage, but he didn't do the heavy lifting.
Objectively speaking, Dirksen had a larger role in the bill, LBJ was just able to get in front of the cameras

Lmao.....just no.

Dirksen played zero role in the crafting of the bill (that was all on LBJ and the liberal wing of the Democratic party). Again, Dirksen deserves credit for doing the right thing and getting his people to vote for it, but he was very much the junior partner in all of this.


Lol Dirksen wrote much of the bill and was the one who introduced it, LBJ was an avowed racist who only came around to civil rights when it suited him politically. He had a record very much similar to that of Strom Thurmond and John Sparkman when he himself was in the senate

Moron Republicans really have to wrap themselves around this in order to avoid the fact that there's is today the party of Goldwater and Trump. LBJ was not a personal racist. At least less so than most men born in the early 20th century. It was he who champion and the Civil Rights bill from the White House. Get over yourself, and read some history that isn't on YouTube videos

LBJ was a racist and that is a fact. It's laughable for anyone to say "oh well he signed a civil rights bill" to justify him not being a racist
LBJ wasn't a racist. He had to pretend to be one in order to get elected at the time.

No racist would push forward the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The Democratic Party lost an entire region of the country and the very same region that LBJ was from. Why would a racist risk doing that when he easily could have done nothing?
Non-racists typically don't drop the n-word casually in private conversation.
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« Reply #86 on: August 29, 2018, 10:03:57 AM »

I like John McCain, but I'd rather rename the building after Bob Dole instead...if it has to be Senate Republican who served a long time.

Dole was a party leader for many years. McCain on the other hand, spent most of his career fighting leadership at every turn.

They can always rename Dirksen or Hart after him.
Not Dirksen, it is a crime of history that avowed racist LBJ is remembered for civil rights when Everett Dirksen did all the heavy lifting

lol, Republicans love this myth.
It is not a myth, pretty much every account of the 1964 civil rights bill backs this up

Dirksen helped secure votes for the bills final passage, but he didn't do the heavy lifting.
Objectively speaking, Dirksen had a larger role in the bill, LBJ was just able to get in front of the cameras

Lmao.....just no.

Dirksen played zero role in the crafting of the bill (that was all on LBJ and the liberal wing of the Democratic party). Again, Dirksen deserves credit for doing the right thing and getting his people to vote for it, but he was very much the junior partner in all of this.


Lol Dirksen wrote much of the bill and was the one who introduced it, LBJ was an avowed racist who only came around to civil rights when it suited him politically. He had a record very much similar to that of Strom Thurmond and John Sparkman when he himself was in the senate

Moron Republicans really have to wrap themselves around this in order to avoid the fact that there's is today the party of Goldwater and Trump. LBJ was not a personal racist. At least less so than most men born in the early 20th century. It was he who champion and the Civil Rights bill from the White House. Get over yourself, and read some history that isn't on YouTube videos

LBJ was a racist and that is a fact. It's laughable for anyone to say "oh well he signed a civil rights bill" to justify him not being a racist
LBJ wasn't a racist. He had to pretend to be one in order to get elected at the time.

No racist would push forward the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The Democratic Party lost an entire region of the country and the very same region that LBJ was from. Why would a racist risk doing that when he easily could have done nothing?
Non-racists typically don't drop the n-word casually in private conversation.

LBJ knew his audience and he was a masterful politician. If he was speaking to a Southerner like Sen. Richard Russell, he was more likely to use the N-word than around a Northerner like Sen. Robert F. Kennedy.

He did that as a persuasion tactic.
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« Reply #87 on: August 29, 2018, 10:33:44 AM »

I like John McCain, but I'd rather rename the building after Bob Dole instead...if it has to be Senate Republican who served a long time.

Dole was a party leader for many years. McCain on the other hand, spent most of his career fighting leadership at every turn.

They can always rename Dirksen or Hart after him.
Not Dirksen, it is a crime of history that avowed racist LBJ is remembered for civil rights when Everett Dirksen did all the heavy lifting

lol, Republicans love this myth.
It is not a myth, pretty much every account of the 1964 civil rights bill backs this up

Dirksen helped secure votes for the bills final passage, but he didn't do the heavy lifting.
Objectively speaking, Dirksen had a larger role in the bill, LBJ was just able to get in front of the cameras

Lmao.....just no.

Dirksen played zero role in the crafting of the bill (that was all on LBJ and the liberal wing of the Democratic party). Again, Dirksen deserves credit for doing the right thing and getting his people to vote for it, but he was very much the junior partner in all of this.


Lol Dirksen wrote much of the bill and was the one who introduced it, LBJ was an avowed racist who only came around to civil rights when it suited him politically. He had a record very much similar to that of Strom Thurmond and John Sparkman when he himself was in the senate

Moron Republicans really have to wrap themselves around this in order to avoid the fact that there's is today the party of Goldwater and Trump. LBJ was not a personal racist. At least less so than most men born in the early 20th century. It was he who champion and the Civil Rights bill from the White House. Get over yourself, and read some history that isn't on YouTube videos

LBJ was a racist and that is a fact. It's laughable for anyone to say "oh well he signed a civil rights bill" to justify him not being a racist
LBJ wasn't a racist. He had to pretend to be one in order to get elected at the time.

No racist would push forward the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The Democratic Party lost an entire region of the country and the very same region that LBJ was from. Why would a racist risk doing that when he easily could have done nothing?
To play devil's advocate, LBJ had an almost religious zeal his entire life to be remembered as one of the greatest presidents of all time. That's probably the driving force behind his push for the CRA.

However, he's notably one of the only Democrats who didn't sign the Southern Manifesto. Regardless of how racist he was in person (I've heard he really wasn't, having grown up in deep poverty in Texas hill country, he empathized with poor African-Americans, though he did use slurs), he took action to stop the preservation of segregation, and subsequently to start to dismantle systemic discrimination and protect the rights of minorities.
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« Reply #88 on: August 29, 2018, 10:44:03 AM »

I like John McCain, but I'd rather rename the building after Bob Dole instead...if it has to be Senate Republican who served a long time.

Dole was a party leader for many years. McCain on the other hand, spent most of his career fighting leadership at every turn.

They can always rename Dirksen or Hart after him.
Not Dirksen, it is a crime of history that avowed racist LBJ is remembered for civil rights when Everett Dirksen did all the heavy lifting

lol, Republicans love this myth.
It is not a myth, pretty much every account of the 1964 civil rights bill backs this up

Dirksen helped secure votes for the bills final passage, but he didn't do the heavy lifting.
Objectively speaking, Dirksen had a larger role in the bill, LBJ was just able to get in front of the cameras

Lmao.....just no.

Dirksen played zero role in the crafting of the bill (that was all on LBJ and the liberal wing of the Democratic party). Again, Dirksen deserves credit for doing the right thing and getting his people to vote for it, but he was very much the junior partner in all of this.


Lol Dirksen wrote much of the bill and was the one who introduced it, LBJ was an avowed racist who only came around to civil rights when it suited him politically. He had a record very much similar to that of Strom Thurmond and John Sparkman when he himself was in the senate

Moron Republicans really have to wrap themselves around this in order to avoid the fact that there's is today the party of Goldwater and Trump. LBJ was not a personal racist. At least less so than most men born in the early 20th century. It was he who champion and the Civil Rights bill from the White House. Get over yourself, and read some history that isn't on YouTube videos

LBJ was a racist and that is a fact. It's laughable for anyone to say "oh well he signed a civil rights bill" to justify him not being a racist
LBJ wasn't a racist. He had to pretend to be one in order to get elected at the time.

No racist would push forward the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The Democratic Party lost an entire region of the country and the very same region that LBJ was from. Why would a racist risk doing that when he easily could have done nothing?
To play devil's advocate, LBJ had an almost religious zeal his entire life to be remembered as one of the greatest presidents of all time. That's probably the driving force behind his push for the CRA.

However, he's notably one of the only Democrats who didn't sign the Southern Manifesto. Regardless of how racist he was in person (I've heard he really wasn't, having grown up in deep poverty in Texas hill country, he empathized with poor African-Americans, though he did use slurs), he took action to stop the preservation of segregation, and subsequently to start to dismantle systemic discrimination and protect the rights of minorities.
Yeah exactly.

Also, LBJ was far from perfect and he had his flaws (escalating the Vietnam War and his arrogance) but you accurately summarized him.
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« Reply #89 on: August 29, 2018, 06:17:21 PM »

McConnell has blocked it, is afraid to piss off Trump.

If I didn't know Mitch McConnell had no spine before, well, I know now.
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« Reply #90 on: August 29, 2018, 11:22:46 PM »

It's not just McConnell.  Even northern Republican Senators like Grassley have voiced skepticism about the name change.  Flake appears to be the only Republican voicing support so far:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/08/some-republicans-favor-memory-of-segregationist-over-mccain.html
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« Reply #91 on: August 29, 2018, 11:52:49 PM »

It's not just McConnell.  Even northern Republican Senators like Grassley have voiced skepticism about the name change.  Flake appears to be the only Republican voicing support so far:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/08/some-republicans-favor-memory-of-segregationist-over-mccain.html


I think this demonstrates how futile any hope is that that GOP Senators would ever place principle over cult and vote to impeach Trump for well-documented crimes. They'll probably turn on him if he ever loses the support of the base, but that seems unlikely in the foreseeable future.
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« Reply #92 on: August 30, 2018, 09:10:47 AM »

Rubio wants to name NATO headquarters after McCain:


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« Reply #93 on: August 30, 2018, 03:31:37 PM »

It's not just McConnell.  Even northern Republican Senators like Grassley have voiced skepticism about the name change.  Flake appears to be the only Republican voicing support so far:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/08/some-republicans-favor-memory-of-segregationist-over-mccain.html


Aside from a few Southern Senators, they haven't said anything against it - they think they should honor him in some way and just want to go through a process with all the options before settling on a specific thing.

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« Reply #94 on: August 30, 2018, 06:33:15 PM »

Rubio wants to name NATO headquarters after McCain:




McCain+NATO=Trump aneurysm.
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« Reply #95 on: August 30, 2018, 07:15:15 PM »

It's not just McConnell.  Even northern Republican Senators like Grassley have voiced skepticism about the name change.  Flake appears to be the only Republican voicing support so far:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/08/some-republicans-favor-memory-of-segregationist-over-mccain.html


Deb Fischer did too.
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« Reply #96 on: September 03, 2018, 07:01:49 PM »

This cannot be allowed to happen. Naming anything after McCain would attach a whole new level of wickedness to its structure.
i don't like it either
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