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« on: August 21, 2018, 03:19:54 PM »

Gillum: 33%
Graham: 22%
Levine: 22%
Greene: 10%

Pollster: Change Research (Gillum internal)
Sample size: 1,178 (including 241 early voters)
Dates: August 18-19
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Rumor also has it that the latest Associated Industries poll has Gillum in 2nd, though that hasn't been released/leaked yet.
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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2018, 03:21:35 PM »

reminds me of blankenship internal showing him up 17, lol
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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2018, 03:25:09 PM »
« Edited: August 21, 2018, 03:28:52 PM by ON Progressive »

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=297854.0

Also: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x21Xkro409WL497_yzjXaA91QEnNjjvyRRjny0LIJxY/edit#gid=1057635540
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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2018, 03:25:32 PM »

An internal poll is hardly siren worthy.
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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2018, 03:28:19 PM »

reminds me of blankenship internal showing him up 17, lol

The difference here is that you have a real pollster willing to sign their name to it — the Blankenship "poll," IIRC, was just a campaign press release saying "these are the numbers from our internal poll" and was probably bs all along
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2018, 03:30:14 PM »

At least he's ahead. Taking this with a grain of salt though.
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2018, 03:30:54 PM »

reminds me of blankenship internal showing him up 17, lol

The difference here is that you have a real pollster willing to sign their name to it — the Blankenship "poll," IIRC, was just a campaign press release saying "these are the numbers from our internal poll" and was probably bs all along

Change being a "real pollster" is questionable. They had Perreilo ahead by 8 in the VA-Gov D primary, El-Sayed within single digits of Whitmer in the MI-Gov D primary, and claimed in a tweet they had Newman pulling away from Lipinski.
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2018, 03:43:09 PM »

Change being a "real pollster" is questionable. They had Perreilo ahead by 8 in the VA-Gov D primary, El-Sayed within single digits of Whitmer in the MI-Gov D primary, and claimed in a tweet they had Newman pulling away from Lipinski.
they were also within a point of the final result in the MT & SC specials and were the only poster to show Stewart coming anywhere near Gillespie in 2017, but thank you for cherry-picking the least favorable examples to fit your case.
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« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2018, 03:46:38 PM »

Change being a "real pollster" is questionable. They had Perreilo ahead by 8 in the VA-Gov D primary, El-Sayed within single digits of Whitmer in the MI-Gov D primary, and claimed in a tweet they had Newman pulling away from Lipinski.
they were also within a point of the final result in the MT & SC specials and were the only poster to show Stewart coming anywhere near Gillespie in 2017, but thank you for cherry-picking the least favorable examples to fit your case.

I am comparing D primaries to D primaries.
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« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2018, 04:21:21 PM »

I am quite confident that Change Research is not a real pollster based off their horrendous misses in Illinois, and the fact that they were totally unresponsive to questions from reporters who tried to investigate them when they started dropping their very-optimistic-for-Biss IL-Gov polls. Hopefully this obviously nonsense poll will regulate them to permanent trash status after Gillum loses the primary by a huge margin.
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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2018, 04:54:51 PM »

I doubt this poll is true, but I do think that this race will be a close one between the big three.
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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2018, 05:00:16 PM »

An internal poll is hardly siren worthy.
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2018, 05:06:28 PM »

Why do people keep taking this pollster seriously? They've been massively wrong in three different primaries already, I'm shocked they even have clients. They have to be the worst pollster in the country right now, yes worse than Eric Cantor's pollster.
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2018, 06:32:25 PM »
« Edited: August 21, 2018, 08:39:58 PM by Pandaguineapig »

reminds me of blankenship internal showing him up 17, lol
I remember the good old days when PNM insisted that, through his "expert" knowledge of Republican politics, Blankenship was going to win the nomination running away
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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2018, 06:39:26 PM »

I mean, I wish this were true. But Change Research has gotten it wrong on almost every single race they've polled, except NJ's and VA's gubernatorial elections.
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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2018, 07:51:33 PM »

There aren't even any cross tabs on this poll....
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2018, 08:35:40 PM »

reminds me of blankenship internal showing him up 17, lol
I remember the foot d old days when PNM insisted that, through his "expert" knowledge of Republican politics, Blankenship was going to win the nomination running away

I too remember those foot d old days. Good times.
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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2018, 08:59:21 PM »

I think they also showed Newman with a big lead over Lipinski as well. Have they ever got a race right?
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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2018, 09:17:22 PM »

This looks very much like an informed ballot number rather than an initial ballot number.
They likely came to this finding after presenting a series of positive statements about Gillum.
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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2018, 09:21:54 PM »

I want to believe dot png. I don't, but I want to.

This looks very much like an informed ballot number rather than an initial ballot number.
They likely came to this finding after presenting a series of positive statements about Gillum.
This is a sensible reason for why this poll is such an outlier relative to others. Probably asked opinion of Sanders, followed by information that Gillum rallied with Sanders, then the poll itself.
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« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2018, 12:49:36 PM »

I mean, I wish this were true. But Change Research has gotten it wrong on almost every single race they've polled, except NJ's and VA's gubernatorial elections.
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« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2018, 12:51:48 PM »

Gillum's grown on me, but his scandals will be a liability in a general election.
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« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2018, 01:06:43 PM »

Gillum's grown on me, but his scandals will be a liability in a general election.

Gillum hasn't really grown on me one bit, but Levine really has. He's run a good campaign and he's got a better track record than I initially thought.
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« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2018, 01:07:57 PM »

If Florida Democrats nominate this guy they deserve to lose
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« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2018, 01:17:30 PM »

If Florida Democrats nominate this guy they deserve to lose
I mean, this is true of the entire field this year.
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