Virginia House 2022: After redistricting

[I’m not Stu]

What will VA's House delegation look like in 2022? Democrats could very well have a trifecta after 2019.

[Zaybay]

Im thinking Dems either close to, or with, a super majority. At this point, it looks likely the Dems will completely gerrymander VA, and it turns out that a lot of seats can be concentrated or influenced by NOVA and Richmond.

For congressional delegations, it would likely be, if VA doesnt get a new seat, they would be able to draw a 8-3 D delegation. NOVA is getting more population relative to the state, and the Rs are self packing themselves. Its possible to draw a 9-2 delegation, but that would spread Ds thin, and make it more of a dummymander.

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

Democrats should draw a 9-2.

[Gass3268]

Democrats should draw a 9-2.

That would look pretty ugly, you can draw a pretty clean and fair looking 8-3.

[I’m not Stu]

Where might the new Democratic districts be located, maybe one in Virginia Beach?

[Gass3268]

Where might the new Democratic districts be located, maybe one in Virginia Beach?

This is the general idea

[I’m not Stu]

Will Virginia be the state where Democrats pick up the most seats from Republicans after redistricting?

[Virginiá]

Will Virginia be the state where Democrats pick up the most seats from Republicans after redistricting?

Probably not, since 3 Virginia Republicans are already endangered this cycle on the current map. It's entirely possible that Democrats already have an 8-3 delegation by Jan 2021.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I can only hope Democrats will do the right thing and draw a fair, non-partisan map.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I can only hope Democrats will do the right thing and draw a fair, non-partisan map.

Aren’t you one of those people that bitches about everything the House GOP does

...yes? Your point?

[Gass3268]

I can only hope Democrats will do the right thing and draw a fair, non-partisan map.

I have to disagree, until there is some sort of national or at the very least regional system that cleans this up (looking at you North Carolina), Democrats need to do what is necessary to make sure that the national map is as close to equal as possible, even if that means gerrymandering the states they have control in.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Utterly sickening. Democracy is not something you play partisan games with - ever. This is no better than straight up stuffing ballots in my view. Any party that isn't willing to keep playing field level does not deserve anyone's vote.

[Zaybay]

Can’t wait to see Antonio’s commentary on politics in the 2020’s when Republicans control the House most of the decade because Democrats handcuffed themselves

[JG]

I can only hope Democrats will do the right thing and draw a fair, non-partisan map.

[JG]

Utterly sickening. Democracy is not something you play partisan games with - ever. This is no better than straight up stuffing ballots in my view. Any party that isn't willing to keep playing field level does not deserve anyone's vote.

[JG]

I can only hope Democrats will do the right thing and draw a fair, non-partisan map.

I have to disagree, until there is some sort of national or at the very least regional system that cleans this up (looking at you North Carolina), Democrats need to do what is necessary to make sure that the national map is as close to equal as possible, even if that means gerrymandering the states they have control in.

And how this national system will happen if both sides profit from the actual situation? How will you get this bill passed in an house full of congressmen and congresswomen from both side of the aisle who have their seats because of gerrymandering?

[Antonio the Sixth]

"depriving people of a meaningful voice in their government is ok if it benefits My Side"

[JG]

Ah yes, so the answer is do some more useless virtue signaling and hand all the power to the Republicans and hope that they’ll suddenly have a change of heart and act in good faith

The Democrat party can't be the party fighting for voting rights and for electoral reform to give better representation while, at the same time, working to disenfranchise communities that don't naturally support them. It just doesn't work. They have to practice what they preach, or else they will become a meaningless opportunistic shell of a party.

[junior chįmp]

Ah yes, so the answer is do some more useless virtue signaling and hand all the power to the Republicans and hope that they’ll suddenly have a change of heart and act in good faith

The Democrat party can't be the party fighting for voting rights and for electoral reform to give better representation while, at the same time, working to disenfranchise communities that don't naturally support them. It just doesn't work. They have to practice what they preach, or else they will become a meaningless opportunistic shell of a party.

One could make the argument that the GOP is so anti-Democracy and authoritarian that gerrymandering them should be done for voting rights.

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

Ah yes, so the answer is do some more useless virtue signaling and hand all the power to the Republicans and hope that they’ll suddenly have a change of heart and act in good faith

The Democrat party can't be the party fighting for voting rights and for electoral reform to give better representation while, at the same time, working to disenfranchise communities that don't naturally support them. It just doesn't work. They have to practice what they preach, or else they will become a meaningless opportunistic shell of a party.

One could make the argument that the GOP is so anti-Democracy and authoritarian that gerrymandering them should be done for voting rights.

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

Democrats should draw a 9-2.

That would look pretty ugly, you can draw a pretty clean and fair looking 8-3.

Then lets go ahead and draw an ugly looking map.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Ah yes, so the answer is do some more useless virtue signaling and hand all the power to the Republicans and hope that they’ll suddenly have a change of heart and act in good faith

The Democrat party can't be the party fighting for voting rights and for electoral reform to give better representation while, at the same time, working to disenfranchise communities that don't naturally support them. It just doesn't work. They have to practice what they preach, or else they will become a meaningless opportunistic shell of a party.

One could make the argument that the GOP is so anti-Democracy and authoritarian that gerrymandering them should be done for voting rights.

"We had to destroy voting rights in order to save them."

[Zaybay]

Ah yes, so the answer is do some more useless virtue signaling and hand all the power to the Republicans and hope that they’ll suddenly have a change of heart and act in good faith

The Democrat party can't be the party fighting for voting rights and for electoral reform to give better representation while, at the same time, working to disenfranchise communities that don't naturally support them. It just doesn't work. They have to practice what they preach, or else they will become a meaningless opportunistic shell of a party.

One could make the argument that the GOP is so anti-Democracy and authoritarian that gerrymandering them should be done for voting rights.

"We had to destroy voting rights in order to save them."

this, but unironically.

[junior chįmp]

Ah yes, so the answer is do some more useless virtue signaling and hand all the power to the Republicans and hope that they’ll suddenly have a change of heart and act in good faith

The Democrat party can't be the party fighting for voting rights and for electoral reform to give better representation while, at the same time, working to disenfranchise communities that don't naturally support them. It just doesn't work. They have to practice what they preach, or else they will become a meaningless opportunistic shell of a party.

One could make the argument that the GOP is so anti-Democracy and authoritarian that gerrymandering them should be done for voting rights.

"We had to destroy voting rights in order to save them."

Trying to get the GOP to behave is like trying to get a sociopath to feel empathy. Democrats need to just give up. The GOP will never stop being an authoritarian, obstructionist outfit.

[Virginiá]

Do Democrats even need to gerrymander Virginia to maintain power there? It's been trending their way for some time now and it seems like it's going to become a state where Democrats will enjoy unified govt more often than not, regardless if they gerrymander. Given enough time, the House map will probably be good to them even if it's not some brutal gerrymander. Without national reform, I question whether it's truly worth it to rig elections in every state possible. Democrats ought to just stay true to their rhetoric and end it if they can. Someone has to fix this system or we're going to be haunted by it forever in this country.