Most Partisan Modern President Besides The Obvious Two?

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The idea of Obama being the most partisan when he bent over backwards to get Republican support for the stimulus and Heritagecare/Gingrichcare/Dolecare/Romneycare is hilarious.

This. I have to believe some of these people are living under rocks or just outright lunatics.

I think a lot are also too young to remember Obama's first 2 years in office.

It was just sad how hard they tried to get Snowe's vote, all while Rahm Emanuel was calling anyone who wanted a weak public option that probably wouldn't have made ObamaCare much better a "professional leftist".

[Beet]

Obama didn't want to be so partisan at first. The Republicans gambled that if they denied all votes to Obama for any of his bills, they could gain a political advantage, and to some extent, they lost. But he was pretty partisan in his second term.

[SingingAnalyst]

Probably Truman, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. (He characterized the 80th congress, which had passed the Taft-Hartley Act, as a "do-nothing" congress and the "worst in history").

Speaking of 1948 (the first election after the defeat of Hitler and Imperial Japan) and why the polls were wrong (in addition to their being biased in favor of wealthy Republicans, as in 1936):

1. Dewey's moustache, which may have reminded people of Hitler.
2. Dewey's comment about 3 weeks before election day about a train engineer "he should be shot at sunrise" probably reminded people of Hilter or Mussolini.
3. A smaller than expected vote for Wallace; Jews especially voted more for Truman (75%) and less for Wallace than expected.
4. Blacks overwhelmingly supported Truman (who had supported rather modest civil rights reforms) which flipped Ohio and probably a number of other states. They figured if Truman lost, "no white Democrat would ever defy the Southerners again".

So, Truman, and it helped him win re-election.

[junior chįmp]

LOL at idea of Reagan being partisan.

The reason he got most of his agenda passed his because he worked with Democrats to get them passed

Reagan was very partisan and he is considered the second most Conservative president behind Bush Jr. The only reason anything got passed in Congress was because Congress was still somewhat bipartisan at that time and they mostly avoided Reagan because he had no clue what they were passing half the time.

It also helped Congress that Reagan was probably the most laziest president in history:

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[uti2]

LOL at idea of Reagan being partisan.

The reason he got most of his agenda passed his because he worked with Democrats to get them passed

Reagan was very partisan and he is considered the second most Conservative president behind Bush Jr. The only reason anything got passed in Congress was because Congress was still somewhat bipartisan at that time and they mostly avoided Reagan because he had no clue what they were passing half the time.

It also helped Congress that Reagan was probably the most laziest president in history:

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Wow, that sounds like some original Fake News (TM), people who think that Reagan wouldn't have endorsed Trump in the GE are kidding themselves.

[Antonio the Sixth]

The idea of Obama being the most partisan when he bent over backwards to get Republican support for the stimulus and Heritagecare/Gingrichcare/Dolecare/Romneycare is hilarious.

[Illiniwek]

The idea of Obama being the most partisan when he bent over backwards to get Republican support for the stimulus and Heritagecare/Gingrichcare/Dolecare/Romneycare is hilarious.

[Karpatsky]

The idea of Obama being the most partisan when he bent over backwards to get Republican support for the stimulus and Heritagecare/Gingrichcare/Dolecare/Romneycare is hilarious.

[President Johnson]

LBJ

Well, Nelson Rockefeller is his preferred successor. Biographer Robert Dalleck states this and it is not hard to believe...

EDIT: LBJ also worked closely together with Republican leader Everett Dirksen to pass the civil rights bill. Without Dirksen's support, it would have been impossible to get enacted.

[SingingAnalyst]

Bill Clinton, while President, was perhaps one of the least partisan. His working with Newt Gingrich to pass welfare reform is one reason he won re-election in 1996.

[JG]

Bill Clinton, while President, was perhaps one of the least partisan. His working with Newt Gingrich to pass welfare reform is one reason he won re-election in 1996.

Which is interesting since Clinton was one of the presidents most involved in party-building.

[OSR stands with Israel]

LOL at idea of Reagan being partisan.

The reason he got most of his agenda passed his because he worked with Democrats to get them passed

Reagan was very partisan and he is considered the second most Conservative president behind Bush Jr. The only reason anything got passed in Congress was because Congress was still somewhat bipartisan at that time and they mostly avoided Reagan because he had no clue what they were passing half the time.

It also helped Congress that Reagan was probably the most laziest president in history:

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Second most Conservative President Since FDR Yes, No where near close to being the 2nd most conservative President in history of the GOP.


But again being very ideological doesn't equal partisan and a good example of that is Donald Trump(Who is very partisan but not ideological) .


Anyway, if Reagan was partisan his tax bill would not have gotten the vote of 74 Senators: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Reform_Act_of_1986


nor would he have signed the 1986 Gun Control Bill or done Amnesty.

[OSR stands with Israel]

LBJ

Well, Nelson Rockefeller is his preferred successor. Biographer Robert Dalleck states this and it is not hard to believe...

EDIT: LBJ also worked closely together with Republican leader Everett Dirksen to pass the civil rights bill. Without Dirksen's support, it would have been impossible to get enacted.

Wait what I though Humphrey was

[Sumner 1868]

Under W. Bush Republicans ran ads switching images of their Democratic opponents with photos of Osama bin Laden. They literally called anyone who didn't support foreign or even domestic polices of the Bush administration terrorists. They threw rocks at people who stood outside with antiwar signs (curiously the FREE SPEECH ANTIFA IS VIOLENT crowd was missing during that period) and held book-burning ceremonies of anti-war musicians CD's. Bush himself didn't use this rhetoric publicly, but he sure gave it a nod of approval in private and it was the basis of Karl Rove's "permanent majority" strategy. It backfired spectacularly in the second half of his presidency but there was no going back.

[Badger]

I’m going with Obama. He didn’t even bother to sit down with the Republicans, and even if they were partially to blame, he still disproportionately blamed them for every problem they had, even those of his own making. He’s been very active in partisan politics since he left, even more so than other former Presidents, who just weigh in on general issues, usually without a partisan bent.

What a human centipede of a post.

[Badger]

Assuming the "obvious two" are Trump (by a ton) and W. (a weak, but respectable, second), I'd have to say Nixon. Truman would probably be fourth.

Before anyone asks, Democrats largely didn't need to be "partisan" when Republicans were a permanent minority for most of the post-War era, and both Reagan and Clinton played nice with an opposing Congress to get a fair bit of their agenda through.

[darklordoftech]

Under W. Bush Republicans ran ads switching images of their Democratic opponents with photos of Osama bin Laden. They literally called anyone who didn't support foreign or even domestic polices of the Bush administration terrorists. They threw rocks at people who stood outside with antiwar signs (curiously the FREE SPEECH ANTIFA IS VIOLENT crowd was missing during that period) and held book-burning ceremonies of anti-war musicians CD's. Bush himself didn't use this rhetoric publicly, but he sure gave it a nod of approval in private and it was the basis of Karl Rove's "permanent majority" strategy. It backfired spectacularly in the second half of his presidency but there was no going back.

And yet people wonder where Trump came from.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Under W. Bush Republicans ran ads switching images of their Democratic opponents with photos of Osama bin Laden. They literally called anyone who didn't support foreign or even domestic polices of the Bush administration terrorists. They threw rocks at people who stood outside with antiwar signs (curiously the FREE SPEECH ANTIFA IS VIOLENT crowd was missing during that period) and held book-burning ceremonies of anti-war musicians CD's. Bush himself didn't use this rhetoric publicly, but he sure gave it a nod of approval in private and it was the basis of Karl Rove's "permanent majority" strategy. It backfired spectacularly in the second half of his presidency but there was no going back.

And yet people wonder where Trump came from.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Under W. Bush Republicans ran ads switching images of their Democratic opponents with photos of Osama bin Laden. They literally called anyone who didn't support foreign or even domestic polices of the Bush administration terrorists. They threw rocks at people who stood outside with antiwar signs (curiously the FREE SPEECH ANTIFA IS VIOLENT crowd was missing during that period) and held book-burning ceremonies of anti-war musicians CD's. Bush himself didn't use this rhetoric publicly, but he sure gave it a nod of approval in private and it was the basis of Karl Rove's "permanent majority" strategy. It backfired spectacularly in the second half of his presidency but there was no going back.

This.

[Progressive Pessimist]

I’m going with Obama. He didn’t even bother to sit down with the Republicans, and even if they were partially to blame, he still disproportionately blamed them for every problem they had, even those of his own making.

LOL. Republicans really do live in their own little world. The Republicans got 95% of what they wanted in every bipartisan deal under Obama EXCEPT the one time Patty Murray led negotiations (which were on the budget -- she actually got a very favorable deal for Democrats, which just goes to show it wasn't inevitable that Democrats give away the barn to Republicans every other time.)

Also, Obama has been exceptionally NOT active in partisan politics, which you would realize if you were old enough to remember more than W and Obama. The only reason W was even less active was because no one wanted to be seen with him.

The problem with Republicans isn't that they live in their own little world - it's that they insist everyone else live there , too.

[junior chįmp]

Wow, that sounds like some original Fake News (TM), people who think that Reagan wouldn't have endorsed Trump in the GE are kidding themselves.

Donald Trump is basically a vulgar mentally retarded version of Reagan otherwise they are 99% the same. Actually, listen to this stand-up from George Carlin about Ronald Reagan from 1988. Literally, all of it sounds like what were dealing with today.

[Free Bird]

I’m going with Obama. He didn’t even bother to sit down with the Republicans, and even if they were partially to blame, he still disproportionately blamed them for every problem they had, even those of his own making. He’s been very active in partisan politics since he left, even more so than other former Presidents, who just weigh in on general issues, usually without a partisan bent.

What a human centipede of a post.

Bad habit of mine, I admit.

[Bojack Horseman]

LOL at idea of Reagan being partisan.

The reason he got most of his agenda passed his because he worked with Democrats to get them passed

Southern Republicans were still in the Democratic Party at the time. When you look at the ideological composition of the House of Representatives and not just numerical party composition, you’ll see that 1981-1987 was a de facto Republican trifecta. Liberal Democrats most certainly did not have policy control of the House for much of the 40 years they had numerical control of the House.

[Zaybay]

The idea of Obama being the most partisan when he bent over backwards to get Republican support for the stimulus and Heritagecare/Gingrichcare/Dolecare/Romneycare is hilarious.

[junior chįmp]

Second most Conservative President Since FDR Yes, No where near close to being the 2nd most conservative President in history of the GOP.


But again being very ideological doesn't equal partisan and a good example of that is Donald Trump(Who is very partisan but not ideological) .


Anyway, if Reagan was partisan his tax bill would not have gotten the vote of 74 Senators: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Reform_Act_of_1986https://i.imgur.com/XZhtGBr.png


nor would he have signed the 1986 Gun Control Bill or done Amnesty.

Sigh...Reagan was literally one of the MOST partisan presidents in US History:



How do you think we got to the point were in now? You realize polarization is worse today than it was during the Civil War. Reagan is to blame for that.