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« on: July 22, 2018, 06:02:12 AM »

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Cuba-Constitution-Approves-Gay-Marriage-Drops-Term-Communism-20180721-0021.html
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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2018, 09:02:56 AM »

¿Does this mean there are no "Communist" countries left?

Iirc China refers to its system as "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics" and North Korea refers to theirs as Juche (plus iirc they abandoned marxism-leninism reciently?)

Maybe Laos or Vietnam is still nominally communist?
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2018, 09:54:12 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2018, 10:59:17 AM »

Try this

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/22/cuba-ditches-aim-of-building-communism-from-draft-constitution

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It has to be said that Cuban revolutionary leaders were quite homophobic, especially Che Guevara. The main advocate of LGTB rights inside the Cuban regime is Mariela, the daughter of Raúl Castro. She is the director of the Cuban National Center for Sex Education and the one who deserves credit for this development.

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/raul-castro-s-daughter-push-gay-marriage-cuba-n872026

https://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/100000003335634/mariela-castro-on-lgbt-rights.html

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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2018, 11:18:16 AM »


Probably for the better. TeleSUR is a propaganda outlet.

Here are three articles, in Spanish, I found on 14ymedio, my go-to source for Cuban news:
https://www.14ymedio.com/nacional/urgencia-apertura-economica-constitucional-Cuba_0_2477752203.html
https://www.14ymedio.com/nacional/constitucional-propiedad-matrimonio-igualitario-multipartidismo_0_2477152266.html
https://www.14ymedio.com/nacional/Constitucion-prohibira-discriminacion-identidad-presidencial_0_2472952685.html

The main aspects of this new constitution appear to be:
  • Removing mentions of communism, keeping only references to socialism but retaining the 'socialist character of the social and political system' under the leadership of the Communist Party of Cuba as the superior leading force -- so a symbolic change, Cuba remaining a single-party state. The 1976 Constitution reads that "the Communist Party of Cuba, Martían and Marxist-Leninist, the organized vanguard of the Cuban nation, is the superior leading force of the society and the State, organizing and guiding the common efforts aimed at the highest goals of the construction of socialism and advancement toward the communist society".
  • Some institutional changes, which see the creation of the office of Prime Minister as head of government, a two-term limit on the President (5 year terms, so max. 10 years) who must be younger than 60, and the Council of State to be presided by the president of the National Assembly rather than the President. The age and term limits on the president, are, I feel, pretty symbolic of the new post-Castro era. The creation of a prime minister will make government more efficient, or at least that's the hope. From my cursory understanding of Cuba's formal institutional structure, these changes indicate some semblance of separation of powers. At the provincial level, it seems as if the provincial assemblies will be replaced by governors and councils.
  • The new constitution will recognize other forms of property like cooperatives, mixed properties and private properties. The new constitution also admits foreign investment as "a necessity and an important element of development", which is another significant change (please build more hotels). This is the culmination of Raúl Castro's reforms which have allowed, through tiny (tiny) baby steps, the first seeds of private initiative on the island. The 1976 Constitution adopted a very orthodox communist definition of the economy and property: "the system of economy based on socialist ownership of the means of production by all the people"... "The State directly administers the assets comprising the socialist property of all the people".
  • It doesn't legalize same-sex marriage per se, but opens the door to it by changing the constitutional definition of marriage to 'union between two persons' without mention of gender (the 1976 Constitution defines marriage as between a man and a woman).
  • The left's favourite word, imperialism, is apparently being dropped from the constitution's section on foreign policy which instead establishes a "multipolar vision in foreign relations" to prevent the hegemony and domination of foreign powers. The 1976 Constitution's foreign policy is "anti-imperialist and internationalist", advocating "the unity of all the countries of the Third World against the imperialist and neocolonialist policy seeking the limitation or subordination of the sovereignty of our peoples".

The adoption of the new constitution in the terms proposed by the regime is a mere formality, although it technically does require adoption by the National Assembly with a two-thirds majority (which is where it's at right now) and then whatever is meant by 'consulta popular' and adoption in a 'referendum'.

Unfortunately, no sign of them making Havana the new national anthem Sad

Here is the text of the current constitution: https://www.constituteproject.org/constitution/Cuba_2002?lang=en
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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2018, 07:57:33 PM »

¿Does this mean there are no "Communist" countries left?

Iirc China refers to its system as "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics" and North Korea refers to theirs as Juche (plus iirc they abandoned marxism-leninism reciently?)

Maybe Laos or Vietnam is still nominally communist?
China and Vietnam still directly enshrine marxism-leninism in their constitution, of course calling a state system communist would be kinda unmarxist.
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2018, 08:09:56 AM »


Kinda like communism, then.
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2018, 01:29:55 PM »

Good for them. We'll see how it works out in the long term. At the time I was critical of Obama opening relations with them but IDK if that would have happened otherwise.

¿Does this mean there are no "Communist" countries left?

Iirc China refers to its system as "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics" and North Korea refers to theirs as Juche (plus iirc they abandoned marxism-leninism reciently?)

Maybe Laos or Vietnam is still nominally communist?

China, Vietnam, and Laos would all constitute being "nominally" Communist.

Juche is pretty close to hardcore Maoism, so North Korea still counts.
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2018, 05:17:29 PM »

The Cuban government has published the draft project of the new constitution, ostensibly for a period of 'public consultations' - to which, interestingly, Cuban expatriates have been invited to participate in by the foreign ministry. It is expected to be adopted in a referendum in February 2019.

Here is the full text (in Spanish): http://www.minrex.gob.cu/sites/default/files/ficheros/tabloide-constitucion.pdf

Highlights from the new text:

The preamble tellingly loses a chunk proclaiming the "awareness" that "all the regimes of the exploitation of man by man cause the humiliation of the exploited and the degradation of the human nature of the exploiters" and that "only under socialism and communism, when man has been freed from all forms of exploitation—slavery, servitude and capitalism—can full dignity of the human being be attained" and "that our Revolution uplifted the dignity of the country and of Cubans". Instead it is replaced by far less brazen language about the leadership of the PCC and national unity as fundamental pillars of the political, social and economic order. A further tribute to Fidel Castro is added. Nevertheless, the preamble retains the reference to the socio-political ideas of Marx, Engels and Lenin (as well as Yankee imperialism).

Cuba becomes a "socialist state of law [estado de derecho], democratic, independent and sovereign" rather than a "socialist state of workers, independent and sovereign".

In article 3, the irrevocability of socialism and the socialist system is kept, although I note with some interest that the phrase "Cuba shall never return to capitalism" is to be removed. Article 3, as it deals with the irrevocability of socialism or the socialist system, remains unamendable.

In article 5, which proclaims the PCC as the 'vanguard' and 'superior leading force' and currently mentions the "construction of socialism and advancement toward the communist society", the latter part about advancing towards communism is removed, although the PCC remains the vanguard and superior leading force of the state and society, organized and oriented towards the construction of socialism.

The (negative) mentions of imperialism, neocolonialism, fascism and other stuff which left-wingers hate aren't removed from the article on foreign relations (which still doubles up as a list of thinly-veiled attacks on US foreign policy towards the island). The article adds, among the guiding objectives of Cuba's foreign policy, environmental protection and fighting climate change. It also adds a committment to disarmament, rejecting the proliferation or use of nuclear weapons and even cyberwarfare; repudiates any sort of terrorism, "especially state terrorism" and defends the "democratization of cyberspace" (and condemns its use for 'subversion and destabilization of sovereign nations'). In addition, Cuba "promotes multipolarity in international relations".

The Cuban economic system remains defined on the basis of "socialist ownership of the fundamental means of production" and planned regulation and direction of the economy. In another move away from socialist grandstanding, the pie-in-the-sky part about "the suppression of exploitation of man by man" is removed.

The new article 21 lists the forms of property recognized: state ownership ('socialist ownership of all the people', cooperative, mixed, of 'political, mass and social organizations', private ("on determined means of production") and personal. The predominance of state ownership of land, subsoil rights and natural resources is largely unaltered, although private ownership of land - including the sale and transfer of land, subject to the law but in much broader terms than the 1976 constitution establishes - is mentioned. State-owned property remains inalieable meaning that in no case can it be sold, transferred, donated or exchanged.

The new article 28 reads that "the state promotes and provides guarantees to foreign investment, as an important for the country's economic development".

The ban on dual citizenship appears to be removed from the constitution.

The title on rights and duties is significantly revamped, falling more in line with the traditional human rights protections granted by most modern constitutions. Gender, sexual orientation and gender identity are added to the list of grounds on which discrimination is banned. On paper, rights are only limited by the rights of others, collective security, general welfare and respect to public order, constitution and laws. The rights to life, liberty, justice, security, peace, healthcare, education and culture are guaranteed. Compared to the 1976 constitution, the new constitution now guarantees the right to intimacy, bans "forced disappearances, torture, inhumane cruel or degrading punishments", guarantees the right to due process and habeas corpus. The right to freely enter, remain on, transit through or leave the territory is added. The new article 59 recognizes the freedom of expression, thought and conscience; the new article 60 recognizes the freedom of the press in broader terms than under the current constitution (which explicitly limited it to the objectives of socialist society, language now removed, although subject 'to what the law establishes'). The freedoms of peaceful and 'legal' assembly and association are guaranteed in broader terms, although still subject to public order and the law. I doubt this actually changes very much, but perhaps it is a positive development. I am still somewhat curious to see, in the long-term, what - if any - are the effects of these, on paper, more thorough lists of guaranteed rights.

Indeed, the definition of marriage becomes gender-neutral ('two persons legally fit to marry' rather than a man and a woman). A transitional article gives the National Assembly one year to make the necessary legal changes (i.e. to legalize same-sex marriage).

In the definition of the principles of the state's education policy, the reference to "the Marxist and Martían ideology" as a basis of educational policy is removed.

The offices of President and Vice President of the Republic are created, separated from the presidency and vice-presidencies of the Council of State (which will now be held by the president and vice presidents of the National Assembly). The President is head of state, elected by the National Assembly from among its members to a five year term, renewable once. For the first term, there is an upper age limit of 60 (and minimum age of 35). The Council of State will continue to exercise most legislative powers between sessions of the National Assembly, although the more executive/'regalian' duties presently held by the president of the Council of State will now be held by the President of the Republic.

The office of Prime Minister is created. The PM, vice-PMs and ministers will be appointed by the National Assembly on the proposal of the President. The membership of the Council of Ministers will be separate from that of the Council of State, which isn't currently the case. The PM is head of government, serving a five year term. Under the 1976 constitution, the president of the Council of State is the head of state and government.

Each province will now have a provincial governor, appointed by the National Assembly on the proposal of the President. This appears to replicate a similar separation of powers at the provincial level between an unelected deliberative provincial council and the governor, who is to be the representative of the central state and head of the provincial administration.

An 'autonomous' national electoral council, whose members are elected by the National Assembly, will be created in charge of organizing elections (electoral-type events to be precise).

tl;dr: Cosmetic changes, which do nevertheless appear to be mildly positive, affecting the institutional organization of the state/government and the supposed 'rights' of citizens, but without any real changes to the single-party authoritarian nature of Cuba or its 'socialist system'. This constitution won't be the one which makes Cuba a multi-party democracy.
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2018, 11:24:22 PM »

Martian ideology?
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« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2018, 01:02:37 AM »


José Martí. Sounds slightly less bizarre in Spanish than in English.
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« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2018, 10:10:01 PM »

This is just a (lame) joke:  Fidel Castro's son Justin Trudeau should be very happy with the legalization of SSM in Cuba.
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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2018, 01:35:31 AM »

What are the odds of a Díaz-Balart becoming our Ambassador to Cuba soon?
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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2018, 05:35:53 AM »

...huh
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