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Question: The Abortion Question
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Personally pro-life, politically pro-choice
 
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Personally pro-choice, politically pro-choice
 
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Personally pro-life, politically pro-life
 
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« on: July 17, 2018, 04:38:02 PM »

Discuss.
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2018, 04:46:27 PM »

You forgot personally pro-choice, politically pro-life.
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2018, 04:51:06 PM »

You forgot personally pro-choice, politically pro-life.

It's interesting though, are there any examples for political figures with these views? I mean, Casey Jr. and Kaine (I think) are examples for the opposite, but I can't think of a politician who's politically pro-life and personally pro-choice. Though, I guess many Republicans (for example, Trump) are that in private.
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2018, 04:54:26 PM »

You forgot personally pro-choice, politically pro-life.

It's interesting though, are there any examples for political figures with these views? I mean, Casey Jr. and Kaine (I think) are examples for the opposite, but I can't think of a politician who's politically pro-life and personally pro-choice. Though, I guess many Republicans (for example, Trump) are that in private.
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2018, 04:55:59 PM »

Voted the first option.

I wouldn't go as far as saying I'm "personally pro-life," but I have serious moral qualms with abortion in general, and I find some extreme left-wingers on the issue's views and, especially, their rhetoric on things like partial birth abortion to be nothing short of horrific.  I think it should be universally agreed that abortion, when it occurs, is almost always a very unfortunate thing to have happened.

Politically/practically, I have issue with creating a law that forces a human being to remove something/someone (living or not) from her body.  I accept if people think that is simplistic and a crappy basis for a view on abortion, but whatever.  I think every woman has to make that choice herself, and I believe that the vast majority understand that a future human life is being exterminated; I don't particularly care to jump on the shaming train after someone - for whatever reason - makes that nearly impossible choice.

So, at the end of the day, I do not favor overturning Roe v. Wade, and I think a world where abortion is 100% illegal in all 50 states would lead to way more problems than it would fix.  I support a cutoff somewhere making late term abortions illegal except for the usual exceptions.
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2018, 04:59:02 PM »

You forgot personally pro-choice, politically pro-life.

Indeed, how could you forget about Donald Trump, Scott DesJarlais, Newt Gingrich, etc.
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2018, 04:59:57 PM »

You forgot personally pro-choice, politically pro-life.

It's interesting though, are there any examples for political figures with these views? I mean, Casey Jr. and Kaine (I think) are examples for the opposite, but I can't think of a politician who's politically pro-life and personally pro-choice. Though, I guess many Republicans (for example, Trump) are that in private.
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2018, 05:09:21 PM »

You forgot personally pro-choice, politically pro-life.

It's interesting though, are there any examples for political figures with these views? I mean, Casey Jr. and Kaine (I think) are examples for the opposite, but I can't think of a politician who's politically pro-life and personally pro-choice. Though, I guess many Republicans (for example, Trump) are that in private.

Openly? No.

Behind closed doors I'm sure there are plenty of business oriented Republicans who go along to get along. It's not too much of a stretch to think a business man from Chattanooga or wherever might keep his opinions to himself to avoid difficulty in the primaries.

You forgot personally pro-choice, politically pro-life.

It's interesting though, are there any examples for political figures with these views? I mean, Casey Jr. and Kaine (I think) are examples for the opposite, but I can't think of a politician who's politically pro-life and personally pro-choice. Though, I guess many Republicans (for example, Trump) are that in private.
Pretty much every Republican who knocks us their mistress.

While the ones who go back on their conviction are utterly vile hypocrites, I'm sure the position is quite a bit more common than that. Some of those folks held the position before they got their mistresses pregnant.
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2018, 05:10:33 PM »

Oh to answer the OP, personally and politically pro-life obviously.
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2018, 05:39:52 PM »

Generally pro-life.
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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2018, 05:49:24 PM »

Generally pro-life. On the one side you risk taking away womens' bodily autonomy. On the other side you risk legalizing the wholesale slaughter of babies. I think I will take my risk with the former. With that being said I prefer some sort of compromise on the issue where very early term pregnancy can still be terminated. But I think the legalization of late term abortion will be seen as a moral abomination by later generations.
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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2018, 05:54:47 PM »

Depends on how you define the terms


I would support a ban after 20 weeks with the exception of , if going through the pregnancy would threaten the life of the mother.
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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2018, 02:18:49 PM »

Voted the first option.

I wouldn't go as far as saying I'm "personally pro-life," but I have serious moral qualms with abortion in general, and I find some extreme left-wingers on the issue's views and, especially, their rhetoric on things like partial birth abortion to be nothing short of horrific.  I think it should be universally agreed that abortion, when it occurs, is almost always a very unfortunate thing to have happened.

Politically/practically, I have issue with creating a law that forces a human being to remove something/someone (living or not) from her body.  I accept if people think that is simplistic and a crappy basis for a view on abortion, but whatever.  I think every woman has to make that choice herself, and I believe that the vast majority understand that a future human life is being exterminated; I don't particularly care to jump on the shaming train after someone - for whatever reason - makes that nearly impossible choice.

So, at the end of the day, I do not favor overturning Roe v. Wade, and I think a world where abortion is 100% illegal in all 50 states would lead to way more problems than it would fix.  I support a cutoff somewhere making late term abortions illegal except for the usual exceptions.

A reasonable and nuanced view with which I agree.
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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2018, 02:34:16 PM »

Strongly pro-choice, both politically and personally.
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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2018, 06:02:53 PM »

I'm personally and politically pro-choice. However, I think late term abortion should only be pursued in certain situations (ex. the baby has horrible birth defects.) Late term abortion providers seem to agree with me, luckily, and do not provide abortions to anyone who wants one.
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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2018, 06:06:32 PM »

Personally pro-life, politically pro-life.
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« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2018, 06:35:51 PM »

It’s complicated.

I do not agree with abortion whatsoever and think it’s a terrible practice, but I also recognize there are some situations in which it’s necessary. I wholeheartedly oppose abortion without a reason (sex-selective for example). I think also it should be allowed only during the first trimester with the only exception afterward to save the life of the mother. I also support reducing the number of abortions performed using methods like better access to contraception and better sex education, rather than overturning Roe or anything like that.

If you legitimately think that it is a good practice, I’d for sure question your moral judgement.

I disagree with probably the majority of self-described pro-lifers on here in that “pro-life” should extend to your whole life and not just the time you are in the womb, through universal healthcare, opposition to the death penalty, and decent standards of living.
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« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2018, 06:36:58 PM »

Strongly pro-choice, both politically and personally.
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« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2018, 06:56:25 PM »

Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others.
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« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2018, 07:23:26 PM »

It’s complicated.

I do not agree with abortion whatsoever and think it’s a terrible practice, but I also recognize there are some situations in which it’s necessary. I wholeheartedly oppose abortion without a reason (sex-selective for example). I think also it should be allowed only during the first trimester with the only exception afterward to save the life of the mother. I also support reducing the number of abortions performed using methods like better access to contraception and better sex education, rather than overturning Roe or anything like that.

If you legitimately think that it is a good practice, I’d for sure question your moral judgement.

I disagree with probably the majority of self-described pro-lifers on here in that “pro-life” should extend to your whole life and not just the time you are in the womb, through universal healthcare, opposition to the death penalty, and decent standards of living.

I agree wholeheartedly with this- but, I must say:

Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others.

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« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2018, 07:31:13 PM »

Voted the first option.

I wouldn't go as far as saying I'm "personally pro-life," but I have serious moral qualms with abortion in general, and I find some extreme left-wingers on the issue's views and, especially, their rhetoric on things like partial birth abortion to be nothing short of horrific.  I think it should be universally agreed that abortion, when it occurs, is almost always a very unfortunate thing to have happened.

Politically/practically, I have issue with creating a law that forces a human being to remove something/someone (living or not) from her body.  I accept if people think that is simplistic and a crappy basis for a view on abortion, but whatever.  I think every woman has to make that choice herself, and I believe that the vast majority understand that a future human life is being exterminated; I don't particularly care to jump on the shaming train after someone - for whatever reason - makes that nearly impossible choice.

So, at the end of the day, I do not favor overturning Roe v. Wade, and I think a world where abortion is 100% illegal in all 50 states would lead to way more problems than it would fix.  I support a cutoff somewhere making late term abortions illegal except for the usual exceptions.

Did you mean to say that "I have issue with creating a law that forces a human being to not remove something/someone (living or not) from her body"
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« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2018, 08:13:23 PM »

Completey accepting of it until the fetus becomes sentient.
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« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2018, 08:54:12 PM »

Pro-choice for both, would probably favor a ban after 20 weeks unless mother's life is in danger, etc.
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« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2018, 05:05:10 AM »

the first option for the reasons RINO Tom said
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« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2018, 06:16:25 AM »

“Personally pro-life, politically pro-choice”.

I think abortions are repulsive and should be discouraged. However, outlawing abortions would cause more harm than good.

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