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« on: July 11, 2018, 04:12:57 PM »

You got to have a couple skeletons from an oppositional point of view. Is there a chance the democrats nominate a clean candidate.
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2018, 04:22:55 PM »

There is no such thing.  Expect the GOP to launch fifteen congressional investigations into the nominee's late library fees, and that one time they ripped the Do Not Remove tag off their mattress.  You can be sure to watch any of the proceedings on Fox.
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2018, 05:22:57 PM »

Booker, Gillibrand and Obama had ties to Goldman Sachs. But, doing something against law is different
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2018, 05:29:34 PM »
« Edited: July 11, 2018, 05:33:29 PM by IceSpear »

There is no such thing.  Expect the GOP to launch fifteen congressional investigations into the nominee's late library fees, and that one time they ripped the Do Not Remove tag off their mattress.  You can be sure to watch any of the proceedings on Fox.

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It's funny how many naive Democrats buy into Hillary's "scandals" being solely because of her and think they won't have to worry about it in 2020. It's going to be a rude awakening for them when literally any Democrat gets hit by the same crap, especially if the media doesn't cover for them like they did with Obama.
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2018, 07:11:32 PM »

There is no such thing.  Expect the GOP to launch fifteen congressional investigations into the nominee's late library fees, and that one time they ripped the Do Not Remove tag off their mattress.  You can be sure to watch any of the proceedings on Fox.

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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2018, 10:28:42 PM »

I know quite a few that don't have much if any at all, but as history has shown, democrats simply can not nominate any candidate that has no skeletons in his or her closet.
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2018, 09:24:43 AM »

There is no such thing.  Expect the GOP to launch fifteen congressional investigations into the nominee's late library fees, and that one time they ripped the Do Not Remove tag off their mattress.  You can be sure to watch any of the proceedings on Fox.

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It's funny how many naive Democrats buy into Hillary's "scandals" being solely because of her and think they won't have to worry about it in 2020. It's going to be a rude awakening for them when literally any Democrat gets hit by the same crap, especially if the media doesn't cover for them like they did with Obama.

Unfortunately it won't be an awakening most likely; instead they'll likely buy into it just like 2016 and complain about how terrible the Democratic party is for nominating a candidate "even worse than Clinton!"
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2018, 10:12:47 AM »

There is no such thing.  Expect the GOP to launch fifteen congressional investigations into the nominee's late library fees, and that one time they ripped the Do Not Remove tag off their mattress.  You can be sure to watch any of the proceedings on Fox.

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It's funny how many naive Democrats buy into Hillary's "scandals" being solely because of her and think they won't have to worry about it in 2020. It's going to be a rude awakening for them when literally any Democrat gets hit by the same crap, especially if the media doesn't cover for them like they did with Obama.
The media went all-in for Clinton in 2016, Cnn basically became. Clinton campaign headquarters for the last couple of months before the election. They even pushed your favored opponent in the Republican primaries (wapo had access to the access Hollywood tape since august 2015 but for some reason decided not to drop it until early voting was getting started). Hillary had the media at her disposal but it didn't mean anything
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2018, 10:21:07 AM »

There is no such thing.  Expect the GOP to launch fifteen congressional investigations into the nominee's late library fees, and that one time they ripped the Do Not Remove tag off their mattress.  You can be sure to watch any of the proceedings on Fox.

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It's funny how many naive Democrats buy into Hillary's "scandals" being solely because of her and think they won't have to worry about it in 2020. It's going to be a rude awakening for them when literally any Democrat gets hit by the same crap, especially if the media doesn't cover for them like they did with Obama.
The media went all-in for Clinton in 2016, Cnn basically became. Clinton campaign headquarters for the last couple of months before the election. They even pushed your favored opponent in the Republican primaries (wapo had access to the access Hollywood tape since august 2015 but for some reason decided not to drop it until early voting was getting started). Hillary had the media at her disposal but it didn't mean anything
you mean, the media that concern trolled over Hillary's emails?
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2018, 10:29:35 AM »

There is no such thing.  Expect the GOP to launch fifteen congressional investigations into the nominee's late library fees, and that one time they ripped the Do Not Remove tag off their mattress.  You can be sure to watch any of the proceedings on Fox.

(sane)

It's funny how many naive Democrats buy into Hillary's "scandals" being solely because of her and think they won't have to worry about it in 2020. It's going to be a rude awakening for them when literally any Democrat gets hit by the same crap, especially if the media doesn't cover for them like they did with Obama.
The media went all-in for Clinton in 2016, Cnn basically became. Clinton campaign headquarters for the last couple of months before the election. They even pushed your favored opponent in the Republican primaries (wapo had access to the access Hollywood tape since august 2015 but for some reason decided not to drop it until early voting was getting started). Hillary had the media at her disposal but it didn't mean anything
you mean, the media that concern trolled over Hillary's emails?
I'm sorry they did some investigation of the anointed one before she wom the primary, good thing they gave upball semblance of objectivity to guard her in the general
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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2018, 10:32:31 AM »

There is no such thing.  Expect the GOP to launch fifteen congressional investigations into the nominee's late library fees, and that one time they ripped the Do Not Remove tag off their mattress.  You can be sure to watch any of the proceedings on Fox.

(sane)

It's funny how many naive Democrats buy into Hillary's "scandals" being solely because of her and think they won't have to worry about it in 2020. It's going to be a rude awakening for them when literally any Democrat gets hit by the same crap, especially if the media doesn't cover for them like they did with Obama.
The media went all-in for Clinton in 2016, Cnn basically became. Clinton campaign headquarters for the last couple of months before the election. They even pushed your favored opponent in the Republican primaries (wapo had access to the access Hollywood tape since august 2015 but for some reason decided not to drop it until early voting was getting started). Hillary had the media at her disposal but it didn't mean anything
you mean, the media that concern trolled over Hillary's emails?
And the media that gave Trump $1 billion worth in free coverage? They were literally showing empty podiums waiting for him to speak while other candidates were speaking!
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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2018, 10:44:56 AM »

There is no such thing.  Expect the GOP to launch fifteen congressional investigations into the nominee's late library fees, and that one time they ripped the Do Not Remove tag off their mattress.  You can be sure to watch any of the proceedings on Fox.

(sane)

It's funny how many naive Democrats buy into Hillary's "scandals" being solely because of her and think they won't have to worry about it in 2020. It's going to be a rude awakening for them when literally any Democrat gets hit by the same crap, especially if the media doesn't cover for them like they did with Obama.
The media went all-in for Clinton in 2016, Cnn basically became. Clinton campaign headquarters for the last couple of months before the election. They even pushed your favored opponent in the Republican primaries (wapo had access to the access Hollywood tape since august 2015 but for some reason decided not to drop it until early voting was getting started). Hillary had the media at her disposal but it didn't mean anything
you mean, the media that concern trolled over Hillary's emails?
And the media that gave Trump $1 billion worth in free coverage? They were literally showing empty podiums waiting for him to speak while other candidates were speaking!
You know they did that because they wanted him to win the primary, right...it was the presidential equivalent of Claire Mccaskill’s ‘true conservative’ ads for Akin.
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2018, 11:01:39 AM »

There is no such thing.  Expect the GOP to launch fifteen congressional investigations into the nominee's late library fees, and that one time they ripped the Do Not Remove tag off their mattress.  You can be sure to watch any of the proceedings on Fox.

(sane)

It's funny how many naive Democrats buy into Hillary's "scandals" being solely because of her and think they won't have to worry about it in 2020. It's going to be a rude awakening for them when literally any Democrat gets hit by the same crap, especially if the media doesn't cover for them like they did with Obama.
The media went all-in for Clinton in 2016, Cnn basically became. Clinton campaign headquarters for the last couple of months before the election. They even pushed your favored opponent in the Republican primaries (wapo had access to the access Hollywood tape since august 2015 but for some reason decided not to drop it until early voting was getting started). Hillary had the media at her disposal but it didn't mean anything
Stop the lies.

Hillary gives speech on importance of protecting SCOTUS... CNN reports on emails
Hillary gives speech on economic development... CNN reports on Huma Abedein
Hillary gives speech on criminal justice reform.... CNN reports on Podesta and WikiLeaks
Hillary gives speech on the environment... CNN reports on Hillary doing pay for play as SoS

Yeah, they were really in the tank for her Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2018, 01:12:36 PM »
« Edited: July 12, 2018, 01:17:35 PM by Cory Booker »

Trump will find something on Booker, Harris or Gillibrand, and label them, we are all aware of that. That's why we can have a polarized election again, but this time Trump winning the popular vote, but losing the EC college:CO, NM, WI, MI, PA, VA and NH going dem except for NV.

GoP control  of the House and Dems making up the 3 seats they will lose in 2018, up in 2020 MT, CO and ME, and the SCOTUS rules in favor of the GOP in Gerrymandering.  Which will cause no amnesty for immigrants due the boarder wall issue in the GOP dominated house
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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2018, 05:46:47 PM »

There is no such thing.  Expect the GOP to launch fifteen congressional investigations into the nominee's late library fees, and that one time they ripped the Do Not Remove tag off their mattress.  You can be sure to watch any of the proceedings on Fox.

(sane)

It's funny how many naive Democrats buy into Hillary's "scandals" being solely because of her and think they won't have to worry about it in 2020. It's going to be a rude awakening for them when literally any Democrat gets hit by the same crap, especially if the media doesn't cover for them like they did with Obama.

Unfortunately it won't be an awakening most likely; instead they'll likely buy into it just like 2016 and complain about how terrible the Democratic party is for nominating a candidate "even worse than Clinton!"

Ugh, you're probably right.
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« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2018, 05:52:50 PM »

I know quite a few that don't have much if any at all, but as history has shown, democrats simply can not nominate any candidate that has no skeletons in his or her closet.
I'd say Obama was reasonably clean, so the latter part isn't quite true.

As long as the right-wing hit machine exists there won't be a candidate that is 100% clean.
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« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2018, 05:53:20 PM »

There is no such thing.  Expect the GOP to launch fifteen congressional investigations into the nominee's late library fees, and that one time they ripped the Do Not Remove tag off their mattress.  You can be sure to watch any of the proceedings on Fox.

(sane)

It's funny how many naive Democrats buy into Hillary's "scandals" being solely because of her and think they won't have to worry about it in 2020. It's going to be a rude awakening for them when literally any Democrat gets hit by the same crap, especially if the media doesn't cover for them like they did with Obama.
The media went all-in for Clinton in 2016, Cnn basically became. Clinton campaign headquarters for the last couple of months before the election. They even pushed your favored opponent in the Republican primaries (wapo had access to the access Hollywood tape since august 2015 but for some reason decided not to drop it until early voting was getting started). Hillary had the media at her disposal but it didn't mean anything



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« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2018, 05:55:35 PM »

I know quite a few that don't have much if any at all, but as history has shown, democrats simply can not nominate any candidate that has no skeletons in his or her closet.
I'd say Obama was reasonably clean, so the latter part isn't quite true.

As long as the right-wing hit machine exists there won't be a candidate that is 100% clean.

If Hillary was president during "Fast & Furious" and "you didn't build that", they would've become months/years long ordeals.

And could you imagine if Hillary had a Jeremiah Wright? Talk about him was essentially gone by late 2008. For Hillary it would've NEVER stopped.
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« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2018, 06:11:24 PM »

There is no such thing.  Expect the GOP to launch fifteen congressional investigations into the nominee's late library fees, and that one time they ripped the Do Not Remove tag off their mattress.  You can be sure to watch any of the proceedings on Fox.

(sane)

It's funny how many naive Democrats buy into Hillary's "scandals" being solely because of her and think they won't have to worry about it in 2020. It's going to be a rude awakening for them when literally any Democrat gets hit by the same crap, especially if the media doesn't cover for them like they did with Obama.
The media went all-in for Clinton in 2016, Cnn basically became. Clinton campaign headquarters for the last couple of months before the election. They even pushed your favored opponent in the Republican primaries (wapo had access to the access Hollywood tape since august 2015 but for some reason decided not to drop it until early voting was getting started). Hillary had the media at her disposal but it didn't mean anything
Stop the lies.

Hillary gives speech on importance of protecting SCOTUS... CNN reports on emails
Hillary gives speech on economic development... CNN reports on Huma Abedein
Hillary gives speech on criminal justice reform.... CNN reports on Podesta and WikiLeaks
Hillary gives speech on the environment... CNN reports on Hillary doing pay for play as SoS

Yeah, they were really in the tank for her Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Hell, I remember that they once cut off televising a campaign event of her's to start showing Trump's instead.
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« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2018, 01:23:35 AM »

Of course the media gave more free publicity to Trump.  Trump is right about one thing; he's been "tremendous" for their ratings.

People are always more interested in the monkey than the organ grinder.  Especially if the organ grinder is playing a dull tune, albeit competently, and the monkey is just flinging shit at some nearby children.  Which would you rather watch?
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« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2018, 08:53:10 AM »

There'll always be another Benghazi to investigate.

And I'm sure whatever the baggage the next Dem nominee has will be "lock him/her up" worthy.
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« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2018, 10:14:46 AM »

No such thing.
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« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2018, 05:21:49 PM »

There is no such thing.  Expect the GOP to launch fifteen congressional investigations into the nominee's late library fees, and that one time they ripped the Do Not Remove tag off their mattress.  You can be sure to watch any of the proceedings on Fox.

(sane)

It's funny how many naive Democrats buy into Hillary's "scandals" being solely because of her and think they won't have to worry about it in 2020. It's going to be a rude awakening for them when literally any Democrat gets hit by the same crap, especially if the media doesn't cover for them like they did with Obama.
The media went all-in for Clinton in 2016, Cnn basically became. Clinton campaign headquarters for the last couple of months before the election. They even pushed your favored opponent in the Republican primaries (wapo had access to the access Hollywood tape since august 2015 but for some reason decided not to drop it until early voting was getting started). Hillary had the media at her disposal but it didn't mean anything
Stop the lies.

Hillary gives speech on importance of protecting SCOTUS... CNN reports on emails
Hillary gives speech on economic development... CNN reports on Huma Abedein
Hillary gives speech on criminal justice reform.... CNN reports on Podesta and WikiLeaks
Hillary gives speech on the environment... CNN reports on Hillary doing pay for play as SoS

Yeah, they were really in the tank for her Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You seriously need psychiatric help if you think CNN was pro-Trump in 2016. You live in a parallel world of paranoid delusions. Trump couldn’t pick his nose without every mainstream news network declaring the end of his chances, and they all did backflips to explain away any bump he ever got in the polls. I mean, there are literally 100+ videos on YouTube of the MSM explaining the IMPOSSIBILITY of Trump getting 270 EV’s. There is plenty for both sides to bitch about in regards to 2016, but this illusion that the MSM was pro-Trump and gunning for Hillary simply has no basis in reality.
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« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2018, 07:31:35 PM »

There is no such thing.  Expect the GOP to launch fifteen congressional investigations into the nominee's late library fees, and that one time they ripped the Do Not Remove tag off their mattress.  You can be sure to watch any of the proceedings on Fox.

(sane)

It's funny how many naive Democrats buy into Hillary's "scandals" being solely because of her and think they won't have to worry about it in 2020. It's going to be a rude awakening for them when literally any Democrat gets hit by the same crap, especially if the media doesn't cover for them like they did with Obama.
The media went all-in for Clinton in 2016, Cnn basically became. Clinton campaign headquarters for the last couple of months before the election. They even pushed your favored opponent in the Republican primaries (wapo had access to the access Hollywood tape since august 2015 but for some reason decided not to drop it until early voting was getting started). Hillary had the media at her disposal but it didn't mean anything
Stop the lies.

Hillary gives speech on importance of protecting SCOTUS... CNN reports on emails
Hillary gives speech on economic development... CNN reports on Huma Abedein
Hillary gives speech on criminal justice reform.... CNN reports on Podesta and WikiLeaks
Hillary gives speech on the environment... CNN reports on Hillary doing pay for play as SoS

Yeah, they were really in the tank for her Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You seriously need psychiatric help if you think CNN was pro-Trump in 2016. You live in a parallel world of paranoid delusions. Trump couldn’t pick his nose without every mainstream news network declaring the end of his chances, and they all did backflips to explain away any bump he ever got in the polls. I mean, there are literally 100+ videos on YouTube of the MSM explaining the IMPOSSIBILITY of Trump getting 270 EV’s. There is plenty for both sides to bitch about in regards to 2016, but this illusion that the MSM was pro-Trump and gunning for Hillary simply has no basis in reality.

Where did he say that CNN (or any other outlet) was pro-Trump?
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« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2018, 07:37:15 PM »

CNN reporters and analysts were obviously in the bag for Hillary. OTOH they gave Trump a lot of free coverage with rallies and such.

Some could say the latter was more valuable. People filter out bias, but coverage of rallies helped Trump get his message out. The genius of Trump is that he knows how to earn his media. They cover rallies because they get high ratings. It's a strict business decision. Hillary's rallies don't. So high ratings = free coverage = get your message out, unfiltered. It's better than 30 second TV spot that ends with a "paid for" disclaimer.
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