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« Reply #50 on: July 10, 2018, 12:42:24 PM »

One thing to consider: Teachout might have higher name recognition due to her past statewide race than James.
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« Reply #51 on: July 10, 2018, 01:43:11 PM »

One thing to consider: Teachout might have higher name recognition due to her past statewide race than James.

She almost certainly has higher name recognition than Maloney. James is probably better known, though, because her base is NYC, where the majority of state's Democrats live. Cuomo handily beat Teachout in NYC, IIRC. She was largely an Upstate phenomenon.
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« Reply #52 on: July 10, 2018, 03:05:22 PM »

One thing to consider: Teachout might have higher name recognition due to her past statewide race than James.

She almost certainly has higher name recognition than Maloney. James is probably better known, though, because her base is NYC, where the majority of state's Democrats live. Cuomo handily beat Teachout in NYC, IIRC. She was largely an Upstate phenomenon.
But how popular is Cuomo in NYC? If James can be linked with Cuomo, could that harm her and help Teachout gain an advantage?
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« Reply #53 on: July 10, 2018, 03:18:54 PM »

One thing to consider: Teachout might have higher name recognition due to her past statewide race than James.

She almost certainly has higher name recognition than Maloney. James is probably better known, though, because her base is NYC, where the majority of state's Democrats live. Cuomo handily beat Teachout in NYC, IIRC. She was largely an Upstate phenomenon.
But how popular is Cuomo in NYC? If James can be linked with Cuomo, could that harm her and help Teachout gain an advantage?

Much more popular than most Cuomo haters on this website think. He handily won NYC in 2014, and does well among minority groups in the city, who generally aren't impressed with "bold progressives" like Teachout.
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« Reply #54 on: July 10, 2018, 03:54:23 PM »

One thing to consider: Teachout might have higher name recognition due to her past statewide race than James.

She almost certainly has higher name recognition than Maloney. James is probably better known, though, because her base is NYC, where the majority of state's Democrats live. Cuomo handily beat Teachout in NYC, IIRC. She was largely an Upstate phenomenon.
But how popular is Cuomo in NYC? If James can be linked with Cuomo, could that harm her and help Teachout gain an advantage?

Much more popular than most Cuomo haters on this website think. He handily won NYC in 2014, and does well among minority groups in the city, who generally aren't impressed with "bold progressives" like Teachout.
My signature indicates that the worm might be turning in that case, I think.
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« Reply #55 on: July 10, 2018, 04:26:33 PM »
« Edited: July 10, 2018, 05:09:36 PM by cinyc »

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My signature indicates that the worm might be turning in that case, I think.

Look - I hate Cuomo, too, but not for the same reason as most Atlas posters. He said that conservatives like me have no place in New York. I beg to differ.

But one low-turnout special election doesn't necessarily indicate anything. Turnout will be higher. Cuomo isn't going to be caught flat-footed like Crowley. He's ahead in every poll. And he's well-liked in most of New York City - Upper West Side and Park Slope perhaps excluded. Running with the establishment will help Tish James, not hurt her. She has to be the favorite for AG at this point - although by no means a prohibitive one.
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« Reply #56 on: July 14, 2018, 08:47:09 AM »

Lol wait there's someone on this thread who supported Roy Moore?

Even before it was revealed that he abused teenage girls, he is extremely anti-gay and anti-Muslim and thus a despicable low-quality human being.
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« Reply #57 on: July 14, 2018, 03:27:34 PM »

Lol wait there's someone on this thread who supported Roy Moore?

Even before it was revealed that he abused teenage girls, he is extremely anti-gay and anti-Muslim and thus a despicable low-quality human being.

You act as if finding a Roy Moore supporter is like finding a leprechaun. He got 651,972 votes, winning 90% of Republicans in the process. And that's not even counting his millions of supporters from outside Alabama.
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« Reply #58 on: August 19, 2018, 07:20:42 PM »

NYTimes editorial board endorses Zephyr Teachout
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« Reply #59 on: August 19, 2018, 07:26:45 PM »

odd choice, I thought they would have supported James.
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« Reply #60 on: August 19, 2018, 07:27:16 PM »


It might just be me, but this surprises me.
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« Reply #61 on: August 19, 2018, 07:28:26 PM »

no, its not just you, this is a really odd move.
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« Reply #62 on: August 23, 2018, 01:44:03 PM »

The Failing New York Times is counting on Teachout to provide Trump with the greatest number of harassing court actions, regardless of whether or not they stretch the boundaries of the AGNY's office.
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« Reply #63 on: August 23, 2018, 02:00:03 PM »
« Edited: August 23, 2018, 02:05:23 PM by Virginiá »

Weird how the NYT would qant a Schneiderman clone; an attention wizard who would spend the time and resources of the office on frivilous cases against the presidency (regardless of whether the state has standing) while ignoring pressing state issues


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« Reply #64 on: August 23, 2018, 02:08:11 PM »

The Failing New York Times is counting on Teachout to provide Trump with the greatest number of harassing court actions, regardless of whether or not they stretch the boundaries of the AGNY's office.

According to the article, part of the reason is also to provide a check on, and I quote, "and a historically corrupt New York State government." This isn't completely Trump-centric, and they aren't wrong to think she is the only plausible candidate who would do this. Teachout isn't an establishment lackey. But yes, obviously they see the NYAG as a particularly potent office to provide a check on Trump outside the federal government, and that's not completely unreasonable either.
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« Reply #65 on: August 23, 2018, 03:17:16 PM »

Weird how the NYT would qant a Schneiderman clone; an attention wizard who would spend the time and resources of the office on frivilous cases against the presidency (regardless of whether the state has standing) while ignoring pressing state issues


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« Reply #66 on: September 13, 2018, 10:40:29 AM »

Looking like it will be a photo finish tonight.
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« Reply #67 on: September 13, 2018, 11:29:21 AM »

The pessimist inside me thinks Maloney will win by like 5.
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« Reply #68 on: September 13, 2018, 11:33:43 AM »

The pessimist inside me thinks Maloney will win by like 5.
Agreed, but I think Teachout will finish third.
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« Reply #69 on: September 13, 2018, 11:34:54 AM »

Normally I would agree with you two, but NY has shown to have taken a deep left turn in its primaries, and current turnout rates in NYC have been large in pro-Nixon areas. Im not sure, its a pure tossup for me.
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« Reply #70 on: September 13, 2018, 11:40:30 AM »

I'd love for Teachout to win, but frankly, if we can knock off a handful of "former" IDC members, that would make me happy enough. I'm not sure how many of them have challengers, but inflicting maximum losses on their ranks would go a long ways in dissuading the remnants and any other potential state Senators from trying to reconstitute the traitor caucus.
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« Reply #71 on: September 13, 2018, 11:41:27 AM »

I'd love for Teachout to win, but frankly, if we can knock off a handful of "former" IDC members, that would make me happy enough. I'm not sure how many of them have challengers, but inflicting maximum losses on their ranks would go a long ways in dissuading the remnants and any other potential state Senators from trying to reconstitute the traitor caucus.
They all have challengers, and it seems that the likely casualties range anywhere from 3-all of them.
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« Reply #72 on: September 13, 2018, 02:31:19 PM »

Voted for Teachout proudly today. Really hope she wins.
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« Reply #73 on: September 13, 2018, 02:47:41 PM »

Voted for Teachout proudly today. Really hope she wins.

Good....she'll actually put the Trump kids in jail
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« Reply #74 on: September 13, 2018, 04:51:49 PM »

Maloney is running for 2 offices?  Can you do that in New York?
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