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« on: June 27, 2018, 01:22:34 PM »

In one year, what will have happened in regards to the Supreme Court?  Will Roe v Wade be overturned?  What big decisions will have been made?  Will Trump even be able to get his nominee through?
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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2018, 02:26:22 PM »

Roe v. Wade was already substantially weakened with Planned Parenthood v. Casey and Gonzales v. Carhart. Of course the next court is probably going to go further.
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2018, 02:27:42 PM »

I actually don't see Roe v Wade ever being overturned. It's an issue the justices typically don't like to touch on.
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2018, 02:35:36 PM »

I actually don't see Roe v Wade ever being overturned. It's an issue the justices typically don't like to touch on.

I agree with your sentiment. Roe v Wade is an issue that the SC just doesnt have the gall to touch. The SC has been Conservative for a long time, TBH its a little ridiculous that we had to rely on a Reaganite as a swing vote. What's likely to happen is the status quo, considering Kennedy has been a reliable conservative vote for all but like, two things. A bigger concern, for me at least, would have been if a liberal judge was retiring, then that would be a panic. But this just reinforces the conservative majority, and there are ways to crack it.
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2018, 03:09:46 PM »

Roe, Obergefell, and Miranda will all have been overturned.
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2018, 03:18:04 PM »

I actually don't see Roe v Wade ever being overturned. It's an issue the justices typically don't like to touch on.

I agree with your sentiment. Roe v Wade is an issue that the SC just doesnt have the gall to touch. The SC has been Conservative for a long time, TBH its a little ridiculous that we had to rely on a Reaganite as a swing vote. What's likely to happen is the status quo, considering Kennedy has been a reliable conservative vote for all but like, two things. A bigger concern, for me at least, would have been if a liberal judge was retiring, then that would be a panic. But this just reinforces the conservative majority, and there are ways to crack it.
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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2018, 03:21:57 PM »

You guys are idiots. Every single Reupnlican SCOTUS nominee for the last two decades has been picked for exactly one purpose: overturning Roe.
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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2018, 03:23:14 PM »

I actually don't see Roe v Wade ever being overturned. It's an issue the justices typically don't like to touch on.

I agree with your sentiment. Roe v Wade is an issue that the SC just doesnt have the gall to touch. The SC has been Conservative for a long time, TBH its a little ridiculous that we had to rely on a Reaganite as a swing vote. What's likely to happen is the status quo, considering Kennedy has been a reliable conservative vote for all but like, two things. A bigger concern, for me at least, would have been if a liberal judge was retiring, then that would be a panic. But this just reinforces the conservative majority, and there are ways to crack it.

While Kennedy leaned to the right, the new Justice will almost certainly lean further to the right.  This new, more conservative Supreme Court could feel emboldened to take on issues like Roe v Wade.  I don't know if it will actually happen, but it is a possibility.  I think them taking on something like Obergefell is far less likely, but I guess that's a possibility as well.  I agree that if one of the liberal ones left the court for whatever reason, we'd have far greater certainty of extreme change ocurring. 
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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2018, 03:23:22 PM »

Which they will send it back to the states to regulate, and most states would ban it after 20 weeks, giving the right to an abortion for a fetus.
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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2018, 03:25:20 PM »

Which they will send it back to the states to regulate, and most states would ban it after 20 weeks, giving the right to an abortion for a fetus.

The more conservative states are definitely going to go for a full on ban. 
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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2018, 03:47:59 PM »

Roe, Obergefell, and Miranda will all have been overturned.

A true nightmare scenario.

If any of those things were to be overturned they would most definitely trigger mass protests the likes of which we haven't seen in America for generations...
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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2018, 03:52:25 PM »

Roe, Obergefell, and Miranda will all have been overturned.

A true nightmare scenario.

If any of those things were to be overturned they would most definitely trigger mass protests the likes of which we haven't seen in America for generations...

Or ever!
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« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2018, 04:07:37 PM »

I don't think most of the people posting understand how lawsuits work.

It's not like the Supreme Court can just make random proclamations and advisory opinions about laws and the Constitution whenever they want.
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« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2018, 04:13:22 PM »

I don't think most of the people posting understand how lawsuits work.

It's not like the Supreme Court can just make random proclamations and advisory opinions about laws and the Constitution whenever they want.

This.
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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2018, 04:18:13 PM »

I don't think most of the people posting understand how lawsuits work.

It's not like the Supreme Court can just make random proclamations and advisory opinions about laws and the Constitution whenever they want.

You think Republican state AsG won't jump at an opportunity to get Roe overturned or get rid of due-process precedents which they consider to be "anti-police"?
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« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2018, 04:21:01 PM »

I don't think most of the people posting understand how lawsuits work.

It's not like the Supreme Court can just make random proclamations and advisory opinions about laws and the Constitution whenever they want.

You think Republican state AsG won't jump at an opportunity to get Roe overturned or get rid of due-process precedents which they consider to be "anti-police"?

The conservative jurists are much more protective of Scalia's Lujan decision on constitutional standing being mandatory for federal courts to hear cases.
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« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2018, 04:21:31 PM »

I don't think most of the people posting understand how lawsuits work.

It's not like the Supreme Court can just make random proclamations and advisory opinions about laws and the Constitution whenever they want.
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« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2018, 04:25:39 PM »

I don't think most of the people posting understand how lawsuits work.

It's not like the Supreme Court can just make random proclamations and advisory opinions about laws and the Constitution whenever they want.

You think Republican state AsG won't jump at an opportunity to get Roe overturned or get rid of due-process precedents which they consider to be "anti-police"?

The conservative jurists are much more protective of Scalia's Lujan decision on constitutional standing being mandatory for federal courts to hear cases.

I don't see how that pertains to what I'm saying. Here's what's going to happen:

1. Some Republican state administration will direct police not to follow the Miranda rules
2. Some victim of this will sue (or none will, which would amount to an overturn anyway)
3. Federal court will most likely rule in accord with the president
4. State appeals
5. SCOTUS grants very
6. SCOTUS overturns Miranda 5-4.
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« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2018, 04:27:54 PM »

I think it would be wise to wait until Ginsburg can no longer serve to overturn Roe and maybe Obergefell so Trump can get the 6-3 majority first. Hopefully a second term thing.
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« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2018, 04:29:27 PM »

I don't think most of the people posting understand how lawsuits work.

It's not like the Supreme Court can just make random proclamations and advisory opinions about laws and the Constitution whenever they want.

Literally no one is saying this.
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« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2018, 04:31:34 PM »

Roe, Obergefell, and Miranda will all have been overturned.

The other 2 may be nuked, but Obergefell will survive.
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« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2018, 04:33:14 PM »

Roe, Obergefell, and Miranda will all have been overturned.

The other 2 may be nuked, but Obergefell will survive.

What exactly makes you so sure?
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« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2018, 04:36:58 PM »

Roe, Obergefell, and Miranda will all have been overturned.

The other 2 may be nuked, but Obergefell will survive.

What exactly makes you so sure?

Yeah..
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I think we will have a FrankenLochner soon.
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« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2018, 04:38:46 PM »

Roe, Obergefell, and Miranda will all have been overturned.

The other 2 may be nuked, but Obergefell will survive.

What exactly makes you so sure?
Obergefell is very popular and very recent. Overturning it would be ridiculously illegitimate.
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« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2018, 04:44:56 PM »

Roe, Obergefell, and Miranda will all have been overturned.

The other 2 may be nuked, but Obergefell will survive.

What exactly makes you so sure?
Obergefell is very popular and very recent. Overturning it would be ridiculously illegitimate.

Roe is popular too.
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