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« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2018, 10:47:05 PM »

I legitimately did not expect Ben Jealous to win. Hadn’t polling out him in second or third?
i thought so too, but i havent been paying this race too much attention
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« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2018, 10:51:25 PM »

I legitimately did not expect Ben Jealous to win. Hadn’t polling out him in second or third?
i thought so too, but i havent been paying this race too much attention

I hate to say it, but looking at who won where, Jealous appears to have benefited the most from Kamenetz passing.
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« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2018, 10:56:28 PM »

I legitimately did not expect Ben Jealous to win. Hadn’t polling out him in second or third?
i thought so too, but i havent been paying this race too much attention

I hate to say it, but looking at who won where, Jealous appears to have benefited the most from Kamenetz passing.

I was thinking that too. Kamenetz surviving could've split the vote enough to let Baker slip through.
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« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2018, 11:02:56 PM »

Looks like Elrich is going to win, he is up by 467 votes (0.4%) with only 4 precincts left. A second count is scheduled for July 6, but this is appears to be a strong upset in the making. Frick had the money, and the washpo endorsement, Elrich just had his delegate seat base and what appeared to be a strong ground game.
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« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2018, 11:04:10 PM »

Looks like Elrich is going to win, he is up by 467 votes (0.4%) with only 4 precincts left. A second count is scheduled for July 6, but this is appears to be a strong upset in the making. Frick had the money, and the washpo endorsement, Elrich just had his delegate seat base and what appeared to be a strong ground game.

Ugh, not a fan of either.
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« Reply #30 on: June 26, 2018, 11:06:33 PM »

Hogan is favored, but MA and MD have surprise winners, and Ben Jealous is beloved by blacks, unlike Anthony Brown, when the black vote dropoff.

I don't know why Jealous would motivate blacks anymore than Brown could. Brown had a way higher profile and background (Lt. Gov, militarty etc) and more $$. I'm still at a loss as to why Brown couldn't motivate them in '14.

Because he didn't make his case in any sort of way, he coasted and hoped the partisan advantage would do the trick.

Jealous for better or worse at least has made his case and really gone for it. Also, how the heck does being head of NAACP not count for anything?


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« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2018, 11:58:02 PM »

Jealous and Elrich won! Genuinely didn't expect either, but I voted for both and am ecstatic they won.
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« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2018, 12:07:10 AM »

Looks like Elrich is going to win, he is up by 467 votes (0.4%) with only 4 precincts left. A second count is scheduled for July 6, but this is appears to be a strong upset in the making. Frick had the money, and the washpo endorsement, Elrich just had his delegate seat base and what appeared to be a strong ground game.

Fantastic! I'm a big fan of Elrich. He's been a longtime progressive voice in Montgomery County, unlike Blair, who's just another opportunistic "entrepreneurial" candidate who's trying to buy the election like David Trone.
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« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2018, 12:21:45 AM »

Looks like Elrich is going to win, he is up by 467 votes (0.4%) with only 4 precincts left. A second count is scheduled for July 6, but this is appears to be a strong upset in the making. Frick had the money, and the washpo endorsement, Elrich just had his delegate seat base and what appeared to be a strong ground game.

Fantastic! I'm a big fan of Elrich. He's been a longtime progressive voice in Montgomery County, unlike Blair, who's just another opportunistic "entrepreneurial" candidate who's trying to buy the election like David Trone.

An unexpectedly nice string of progressive victories in Maryland today. Smiley
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« Reply #34 on: June 27, 2018, 12:33:29 AM »

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« Reply #35 on: June 27, 2018, 12:55:24 AM »

Looks like Elrich is going to win, he is up by 467 votes (0.4%) with only 4 precincts left. A second count is scheduled for July 6, but this is appears to be a strong upset in the making. Frick had the money, and the washpo endorsement, Elrich just had his delegate seat base and what appeared to be a strong ground game.

Fantastic! I'm a big fan of Elrich. He's been a longtime progressive voice in Montgomery County, unlike Blair, who's just another opportunistic "entrepreneurial" candidate who's trying to buy the election like David Trone.

An unexpectedly nice string of progressive victories in Maryland today. Smiley

Emphasis on unexpectedly.
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« Reply #36 on: June 27, 2018, 01:04:04 AM »

Looks like Elrich is going to win, he is up by 467 votes (0.4%) with only 4 precincts left. A second count is scheduled for July 6, but this is appears to be a strong upset in the making. Frick had the money, and the washpo endorsement, Elrich just had his delegate seat base and what appeared to be a strong ground game.

Fantastic! I'm a big fan of Elrich. He's been a longtime progressive voice in Montgomery County, unlike Blair, who's just another opportunistic "entrepreneurial" candidate who's trying to buy the election like David Trone.

An unexpectedly nice string of progressive victories in Maryland today. Smiley

Emphasis on unexpectedly.

Not really that unexpected. Well at least not with Jealous. That one was coming from miles away.

 
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« Reply #37 on: June 27, 2018, 01:12:49 AM »
« Edited: June 27, 2018, 01:18:06 AM by Doctor Imperialism »

Looks like Elrich is going to win, he is up by 467 votes (0.4%) with only 4 precincts left. A second count is scheduled for July 6, but this is appears to be a strong upset in the making. Frick had the money, and the washpo endorsement, Elrich just had his delegate seat base and what appeared to be a strong ground game.

Fantastic! I'm a big fan of Elrich. He's been a longtime progressive voice in Montgomery County, unlike Blair, who's just another opportunistic "entrepreneurial" candidate who's trying to buy the election like David Trone.

An unexpectedly nice string of progressive victories in Maryland today. Smiley

Emphasis on unexpectedly.

Not really that unexpected. Well at least not with Jealous. That one was coming from miles away.

 

It was clear that Jealous had a path to victory after Kamenetz passed, but I don't think he was ever considered the favorite. Maryland is traditionally a very establishment-friendly state, and I'm really surprised by how badly that establishment got crapped on tonight. From the WaPo:

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« Reply #38 on: June 27, 2018, 01:23:37 AM »

Looks like Elrich is going to win, he is up by 467 votes (0.4%) with only 4 precincts left. A second count is scheduled for July 6, but this is appears to be a strong upset in the making. Frick had the money, and the washpo endorsement, Elrich just had his delegate seat base and what appeared to be a strong ground game.

Fantastic! I'm a big fan of Elrich. He's been a longtime progressive voice in Montgomery County, unlike Blair, who's just another opportunistic "entrepreneurial" candidate who's trying to buy the election like David Trone.

An unexpectedly nice string of progressive victories in Maryland today. Smiley

Well, if you ignore that absolute ass Trone winning in MD-06, but other than that, I'm just happy Jealous and Elrich did well.
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« Reply #39 on: June 27, 2018, 07:46:44 AM »

Warning sign for Democrats: While overall turnout was up 12% from the 2014 gubernatorial primary, the increase was concentrated in only 9 counties, with the counties around the D.C. metropolitan area making up almost all of it. 15 counties saw declines in turnout, including every county on the Eastern Shore. It's similar to what we saw in Virginia with Northam's win heavily on the backs of metropolitan areas. The party's infrastructure in non-metropolitan areas continues to atrophy.

It’s a shame that the party is withering in the Eastern shore, among other areas, but Jealous’s path to victory will be paved with higher turnout in the DC suburbs than Brown got. I’m okay with it.
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« Reply #40 on: June 27, 2018, 08:11:28 AM »

Warning sign for Democrats: While overall turnout was up 12% from the 2014 gubernatorial primary, the increase was concentrated in only 9 counties, with the counties around the D.C. metropolitan area making up almost all of it. 15 counties saw declines in turnout, including every county on the Eastern Shore. It's similar to what we saw in Virginia with Northam's win heavily on the backs of metropolitan areas. The party's infrastructure in non-metropolitan areas continues to atrophy.

Northam also won by a lot more than Terry McAuliffe, so I don't see how this is an issue. Especially since it's not like Ds are really relevant at all on the Eastern Shore or in Western Maryland.
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« Reply #41 on: June 27, 2018, 08:27:27 AM »

I had parochial reasons for posting about the Montgomery race here rather than pure ideology. During the past week, the precincts and early voting sites I visited and volunteered for always had Elrich people there. Most of the tie, they were older teachers who genuinely felt compelled to be there rather than young progressives.  I made a few friends. I only ever saw one person from the Frick campaign, and she clearly didn't want to be there. Yesterday, there was only three outside my precinct for most of the day: Me, an Elrich supporter, and a Will Jawando campaigner. If Frick ends up losing via the provisionals and the recount, it will be because he ignored his ground team.
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« Reply #42 on: June 27, 2018, 09:15:40 AM »

Spoken like someone who's never set foot within a hundred miles of the state of Maryland:
Warning sign for Democrats: While overall turnout was up 12% from the 2014 gubernatorial primary, the increase was concentrated in only 9 counties, with the counties around the D.C. metropolitan area making up almost all of it. 15 counties saw declines in turnout, including every county on the Eastern Shore. It's similar to what we saw in Virginia with Northam's win heavily on the backs of metropolitan areas. The party's infrastructure in non-metropolitan areas continues to atrophy.

Oh no Jealous did worse in the liberal bastion of Cecil County. And what will he do without Kent County liberals?????????2??? TITANIUM R!
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« Reply #43 on: June 27, 2018, 09:30:00 AM »

Weird question, but does anyone else think Ben Jealous looks white?
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« Reply #44 on: June 27, 2018, 09:38:15 AM »

Weird question, but does anyone else think Ben Jealous looks white?

His father is white. When he married Ben's mother (who is black) in 1967, they had to do it in DC as interracial marriages were still illegal in Maryland.
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« Reply #45 on: June 27, 2018, 09:41:42 AM »

Personally I think Jealous is a better candidate than Baker.
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« Reply #46 on: June 27, 2018, 07:34:57 PM »

I legitimately did not expect Ben Jealous to win. Hadn’t polling out him in second or third?
i thought so too, but i havent been paying this race too much attention

I hate to say it, but looking at who won where, Jealous appears to have benefited the most from Kamenetz passing.

I was thinking the exact same thing after being surprised by the margin that he won with. I wasn't sure who would win between him or Baker, but I didn't expect a victory to be in the double digits.
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« Reply #47 on: June 27, 2018, 10:18:16 PM »

This is an anti incumbent election, throw out conventional wisdom, ME and WI have Moody and Walker who very well get terms in office due to unpopular Mills, and Jealous and Cordray can win due to weakness of DeWine
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« Reply #48 on: June 28, 2018, 01:43:56 AM »

Spoken like someone who's never set foot within a hundred miles of the state of Maryland:
Warning sign for Democrats: While overall turnout was up 12% from the 2014 gubernatorial primary, the increase was concentrated in only 9 counties, with the counties around the D.C. metropolitan area making up almost all of it. 15 counties saw declines in turnout, including every county on the Eastern Shore. It's similar to what we saw in Virginia with Northam's win heavily on the backs of metropolitan areas. The party's infrastructure in non-metropolitan areas continues to atrophy.

Oh no Jealous did worse in the liberal bastion of Cecil County. And what will he do without Kent County liberals?HuhHuh??2??? TITANIUM R!

EARLY REPORTS FROM GARRETT COUNTY SHOW A MASSIVE DROPOFF IN DEM TURNOUT. SOUND THE ALARM! #itsraininginbethesda
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« Reply #49 on: June 28, 2018, 08:47:48 PM »

Warning sign for Democrats: While overall turnout was up 12% from the 2014 gubernatorial primary, the increase was concentrated in only 9 counties, with the counties around the D.C. metropolitan area making up almost all of it. 15 counties saw declines in turnout, including every county on the Eastern Shore. It's similar to what we saw in Virginia with Northam's win heavily on the backs of metropolitan areas. The party's infrastructure in non-metropolitan areas continues to atrophy.

Northam won less counties than McAuliffe did but managed to win by a far wider margin and win many more legislative districts as a result. I think any sane person would opt for the Northam coalition every time

Also, like VA and elsewhere, many of these rural counties are losing population and voters
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