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« on: May 04, 2004, 12:00:09 PM »

I think we all know the VP helps in a race, often swinging states or social groups in their favour. If Edwards was on the ticket for instance, would he have enough clout to swing the polls for the moment at least, in the Democrats favour in North Carolina? Or would he only help in states like Arkansas and Virginia? What about the other nominees? If someone could make a list it would help out a bit! Im not so good with US local/state politics. Would Richardson help in Arizona/Nevada and Bayh in Indiana/Kentucky...or no change? It intrigues me, especially as the decision day nears.
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2004, 12:43:55 PM »

In fact, it's often the other way around. A VP hurts, so the real trick is choosing one who doesn't... Wink

Edwards would help in the South, obviously, and also in the Midwest. He probably couldn't swing NC, and considering how strong Bush is in the South, I doubt whether he puts any of them in play. He could help in places like WV, OH, etc though.

Richardson would help with Hispanics, so the Southwest mostly. And Bayh would help with Midwestern moderates.
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2004, 02:27:11 PM »

Richardson is the only guy who swings states directly, and all he does is NM, which is 5.  Edwards helps in the steel triangle, etc.
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2004, 03:46:37 PM »

There have been quite a few days when only Kerry and Edwards were the senators not voting in the past 2 weeks.

Just somthing to think about.
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2004, 03:58:08 PM »

And Bayh would help with Midwestern moderates.

Bayh wouldn't help with a single person outside of Indiana. He's only well liked there because of his family name. The moderates here would probably hate him since he's chariman of the DLC and doesn't go their way on union and agriculture issues. He'd be a horrid choice, luckily the feminists wil probably beto him again.
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2004, 05:01:30 PM »

Richardson is the only guy who swings states directly, and all he does is NM, which is 5.  Edwards helps in the steel triangle, etc.

I agree that is correct at this point.  
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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2004, 07:31:21 AM »

Edwards is the man who will do +3 or 4% everywhere. Richardson, it's only for hispanics.
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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2004, 08:10:01 AM »

Edwards is the man who will do +3 or 4% everywhere. Richardson, it's only for hispanics.

I doubt it
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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2004, 09:45:45 PM »

There have been quite a few days when only Kerry and Edwards were the senators not voting in the past 2 weeks.

Just somthing to think about.

Very interesting.  Thanks
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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2004, 09:48:03 PM »

Edwards is the man who will do +3 or 4% everywhere. Richardson, it's only for hispanics.

I doubt it
WHy?
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2004, 10:26:13 PM »

Because Edwards will not give +3-4%.

2 would be fantastic  but it'll be more likely around 1.
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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2004, 02:28:06 AM »

Because Edwards will not give +3-4%.

2 would be fantastic  but it'll be more likely around 1.

+1% is not bad in a tie election.

consensus: +2%? Wink
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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2004, 07:09:45 AM »

Because Edwards will not give +3-4%.

2 would be fantastic  but it'll be more likely around 1.
Agreed
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« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2004, 10:40:06 PM »

this is late BUT richardson can not only carry the southwest BUT, Richardson is very popular among Senators, Reps. and Governors in the entire west. Richardson was elected chairman of the Western Governors Association, which is made up of both Republicans and Democrats!
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« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2004, 10:41:25 PM »

Richardson will carry New Mexico, he won't sweep t he Southwest.  Kerry might recieve modest boosts but not nearly enough.
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« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2004, 07:34:45 AM »

Richardson and Edwards are the best choices.  Johnny Sunshine makes everyone feel all warm inside about the Dems when they see him, Richardson locks up Hispanic vote with a signifcant boost IMO.  
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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2004, 11:20:55 AM »

Richardson will carry New Mexico, he won't sweep t he Southwest.  Kerry might recieve modest boosts but not nearly enough.

The thing is, people want Richardson to stay governor. A poll down in NM showed that only 36% of New Mexicans want Richardson to be VP. Richardson won the election for governor by a large margin.
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