Italian Elections and Politics 2022 - Our Time to Schlein

[jaichind]

https://www.euronews.com/2022/08/10/right-wing-coalition-on-course-to-win-italy-election-says-study

"Right-wing coalition on course to win Italy election, says study"

Cattaneo Institute  has it at

                             Lower House       Senate
Right wing bloc          245                   127
Left wing bloc            107                    52
Centrist bloc              17                       6  (my guess, the article says 23 in both houses)
M5S                          27                      12

[crals]

Bizarre that Italy has so many one-man-show microparties when the electoral system is so punishing

[Estrella]

Bizarre that Italy has so many one-man-show microparties when the electoral system is so punishing

Over the past thirty years, Italy has demonstrated that changing the electoral system has very little impact on how politics actually works. A certain type of British (or Canadian, or American) progressive reformist should perhaps think about that.

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

Carlo Calenda and Matteo Renzi finding a deal quickly is not surprising but still ridiculous in light of all their previous antics (mostly Calenda's). Unfortunately for them, the number of people interested in what they have to sell is quite small, although definitely overrepresented amongst People Of Money.

[MRCVzla]

Also to the Azione/Italia Viva joint list (the so-called "third pole") whose frontman is Calenda, was confirmed the joint list of the minor centrist parties of the center-right coalition, the name of the list is "Noi Moderati" (Us Moderates) and their symbol is a huge mess as mixes the planned symbols of the 2 moderates list merged who each one also are mergers of 2 microparties (Noi con l'Italia+Italia al Centro and Coraggio Italia+UDC).

Oh, and the PD also presented the symbol of their "Italy Democratic and Progressive" list, with Articolo Uno, PSI and DemoS, also will ran on the list Volt Italy and some members of the Italian Radicals (part of the +Europa pact) and also supported by the microparty PRI-splinter MRE who was member and had parliamentary representation with the center-left in the 2000s. Other minor move is other microparty changing partners as Possibile is reuniting with SI and EV in the Green-left Alliance when they originally supported the Capatto' Referendum and Democracy list

Tomorrow til' Sunday evening will start the symbol extravaganza at the Viminale (Interior ministry) with the deposit of the symbol who intend to run in the September election, I recommend (Twitter feeds aside) the coverage of I Simboli della Discordia blog who gives details of those fringe microparties who intend to run (and most of them are rejected or barely make it to the ballots)

[McGarry]

Yesterday Adinolfi (Alternative for Italy) announced he was able to collect the minimum amount of signatures required in order to run for the election. He also stated that he's trying to be safe by collecting some more signs. The list is composed by the People of Family led by Adinolfi and Exit, a new eurosceptic party founded by the former leader of CasaPound, Simone Di Stefano.
Currently there are six eurosceptic / no-vax party collecting signatures: Vita, led by Sara Cunial and other people, Strength of the People (FdP), Italexit, Unione per le cure, i diritti e le libertà, Sovereign and Popular Italy and Alternative for Italy, as I mentioned before.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Yesterday Adinolfi (Alternative for Italy) announced he was able to collect the minimum amount of signatures required in order to run for the election. He also stated that he's trying to be safe by collecting some more signs. The list is composed by the People of Family led by Adinolfi and Exit, a new eurosceptic party founded by the former leader of CasaPound, Simone Di Stefano.
Currently there are six eurosceptic / no-vax party collecting signatures: Vita, led by Sara Cunial and other people, Strength of the People (FdP), Italexit, Unione per le cure, i diritti e le libertà, Sovereign and Popular Italy and Alternative for Italy, as I mentioned before.

Well, glad there will be a few spoiled votes on the right too (though not nearly as many as on the left).

[S019]

In other news, incumbent President of Sicily Nello Musemici will not again be the right’s candidate for the post, which will instead be former President of the Senate Renato Schifani. Musemici is retiring from the post, even though he had previously wanted to run again. I can only assume this is because he was upset at being cast aside in what is a pretty recent development.

[McGarry]

In other news, incumbent President of Sicily Nello Musemici will not again be the right’s candidate for the post, which will instead be former President of the Senate Renato Schifani. Musemici is retiring from the post, even though he had previously wanted to run again. I can only assume this is because he was upset at being cast aside in what is a pretty recent development.

Musumeci was vetoed by League and Forza Italia because he was allied with Meloni, and Salvini and Berlusconi didn't want to give to Brothers of Italy both Sicily and Lazio (Lollobrigida is rumored to be the right's candidate for the next election in Lazio, which will be held in the first half of 2023). As a side note, Musumeci announced his resignation on Facebook, and not at the Regional Council. Pretty unusual.

The centre-left in Sicily chose Caterina Chinnici, but the Five Star Movement is making a lot of requests since they broke the alliance with the Democratic Party at the national level: the last one was scraping away the name of Chinnici from the Democratic Party's logo, a request denied. Not sure if the M5S will still be part of the coalition.

Last but not least, yesterday Action and Italia Viva announced their candidate: Gaetano Armao, incumbent vice President of Sicily, as an attempt to take FI's votes. Armao is a well-know person in Sicily, but I'm not sure about how many people will vote for him.

[Andrea]

PD executive was supposed to approve candidates names this morning.
Then they moved the meeting to 3pm. Then to 8pm. Now to 9.30pm.

[Andrea]

PD lists

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vxeMb0325Kc6DWVA8A9jUNLtWR6ghOF5/view

"Coalizione" are the constituencies given to allies.

Yes, Casini got Bologna senatorial constituency again.

[MRCVzla]

The PD's (preliminary) list has been fueled of controversy in recent hours, as several important party ranks have complained of being placed in ineligible positions in the PR quota or not appearing on the lists at all, some of them they have even declined the candidacies that have been proposed to them (like Stefano Ceccanti or Alessia Morani) . Also a few posts for their partners in the "Italy Democratic and Progressive" list (despite Speranza's "capolista" and DemoS' Paolo Ciani has been placed in the very safe Roma centre House constituency).

One of the interesting battles probably will be the Roma centre Senate constituency between the until a few weeks-allies Enma Bonino (incumbent) and Carlo Calenda.

Also today were the M5S' internal primaries, with the candidature for the House and the Senate, there's was included a question about approve a select list of candidates proposed by Conte:
https://twitter.com/ultimora_pol/status/1559466934172848130

Summarizing also in other alliances/parties. FI turns to other football club presidents for candidates on its lists. FDI proposes former Brazilian F1 champion Emerson Fittipaldi as a candidate (in the Cdx joint list) for the South American constituency in the Senate, Italexit postulates former conservative mayor of Rome Gianni Alemmano or the sovereignists/anti-system of Sovereign and Popular Italy nominate 95-year-old actress Gina Lollobrigida also for the Senate.

In the past weekend, 101 symbols of 98 different parties/lists* were deposited at the Viminale (Ministry of Internal Affairs), many of them they are bizarre and with little chance of collecting enough signatures and/or being on the ballot, others simply to prevent someone else from presenting themselves with a similar symbology or name, some of them with internal disputes as occurs with some duplicates (such as the various reincarnations of the DC, the PLI or the Libertas Movement) or to tried to have a preventive symbol in case any of the registered parties manages to evade the collection of signatures (as the leftist Popular' Union). For more detail on the stories of these symbols, check out the I Simboli della Discordia blog (in italian): http://www.isimbolidelladiscordia.it/2022/08/elezioni-politiche-2022-i-simboli-uno.html
https://twitter.com/SBidimedia/status/1558898058288660481

And 48 hours later we known what "symbols" were admitted or not and the ones who have to present more documentation (consent to present lists). Reminder: the final lists deadline is until next Monday (August 22)
https://twitter.com/StefanoMentana/status/1559553386562953219

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*PD-IDP presented 2 similar symbols (the latter for the overseas constituencies) while the Green-Left Alliance presented 2 variations of their symbol for the linguistic minorities' ares (one for Bolzano in german/ladin and the other for Friuli-Venezia Giulia in slovene)

[Andrea]

) . Also a few posts for their partners in the "Italy Democratic and Progressive" list (despite Speranza's "capolista" and DemoS' Paolo Ciani has been placed in the very safe Roma centre House constituency).

Speranza's lot got 4 seats
Speranza top in Campania 1-01
Arturo Scotto second in Tuscany 3
Nicola Stumpo top in Calabria 01-1
Federico Fornaro top in Piemonte 02-1

[Estrella]

Very off topic, but it's so weird how during the 20th century Italy produced so much of world's cutting-edge graphic design (and design in general, of course) and yet 90% of these symbols look like they're from a 1995 middle school project – as does the official notice above them and election night graphics on every TV channel. Like, why?

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

Very off topic, but it's so weird how during the 20th century Italy produced so much of world's cutting-edge graphic design (and design in general, of course) and yet 90% of these symbols look like they're from a 1995 middle school project – as does the official notice above them and election night graphics on every TV channel. Like, why?

To be fair, 90% of these symbols are either hastily made to represent fake parties or do come from 1995 and still represent fake parties. But I do miss carnations, ivies and crossed escutcheons...

[Insula Dei]

Very off topic, but it's so weird how during the 20th century Italy produced so much of world's cutting-edge graphic design (and design in general, of course) and yet 90% of these symbols look like they're from a 1995 middle school project – as does the official notice above them and election night graphics on every TV channel. Like, why?

You're an out of touch elite, I'm afraid

[Estrella]

Very off topic, but it's so weird how during the 20th century Italy produced so much of world's cutting-edge graphic design (and design in general, of course) and yet 90% of these symbols look like they're from a 1995 middle school project – as does the official notice above them and election night graphics on every TV channel. Like, why?

You're an out of touch elite, I'm afraid

Would this be more to taste of ordinary Italians?

[kaoras]

Very off topic, but it's so weird how during the 20th century Italy produced so much of world's cutting-edge graphic design (and design in general, of course) and yet 90% of these symbols look like they're from a 1995 middle school project – as does the official notice above them and election night graphics on every TV channel. Like, why?

You're an out of touch elite, I'm afraid

Would this be more to taste of ordinary Italians?

Is not a circle, so no.

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

This is off-topic from the election, but I would like to mention that a few days ago Piero Angela died. He was by far the most popular science journalist/populizer in this country (together with his son Alberto) and absolutely an icon. RIP FF.

[Andrea]

The 15 names proposed by Conte to get high spots on M5S lists are

Stefania Patunelli, former cabinet minister in both Conte's and Draghi's government
Michele Gubitosa, Vice President of M5S
Riccardo Ricciardi, Vice President of M5S
Alessandra Todde, Vice President of M5S
Mario Turco, Vice President of M5S
Chiara Appendino, former mayor of Turin
Francesco Silvestri, head of the parliamentary group at the House
Maria Domenica Castellone,  head of the parliamentary group at the Senate
Ettore Lichere, former head of parliamentary group at the Senate
Barbara Floridia, under-secretary for education in Draghi's government Sergio Costa, former cabinet minister for environment in Conte's government
Federico Cafiero de Raho, former prosecutor
Roberto Scarpinato,  former prosecutor
Livio de Santoli, academic professor in energy management
Alfredo Colucci, the notary of the party

[If my soul was made of stone]

Very off topic, but it's so weird how during the 20th century Italy produced so much of world's cutting-edge graphic design (and design in general, of course) and yet 90% of these symbols look like they're from a 1995 middle school project – as does the official notice above them and election night graphics on every TV channel. Like, why?

You're an out of touch elite, I'm afraid

Would this be more to taste of ordinary Italians?

Salvini links up with Eiffel 65 to make a new version of the "Blue (Da Ba Dee)" video where he shoots PlayStation 1 renders of Albanians

[Antonio the Sixth]

Very off topic, but it's so weird how during the 20th century Italy produced so much of world's cutting-edge graphic design (and design in general, of course) and yet 90% of these symbols look like they're from a 1995 middle school project – as does the official notice above them and election night graphics on every TV channel. Like, why?

You're an out of touch elite, I'm afraid

Would this be more to taste of ordinary Italians?

Salvini links up with Eiffel 65 to make a new version of the "Blue (Da Ba Dee)" video where he shoots PlayStation 1 renders of Albanians

(Green of course being Lega's color)

[If my soul was made of stone]

Very off topic, but it's so weird how during the 20th century Italy produced so much of world's cutting-edge graphic design (and design in general, of course) and yet 90% of these symbols look like they're from a 1995 middle school project – as does the official notice above them and election night graphics on every TV channel. Like, why?

You're an out of touch elite, I'm afraid

Would this be more to taste of ordinary Italians?

Salvini links up with Eiffel 65 to make a new version of the "Blue (Da Ba Dee)" video where he shoots PlayStation 1 renders of Albanians

(Green of course being Lega's color)

I always considered "I'm blue, I would beat off a guy" the superior mondegreen, personally.

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

Very off topic, but it's so weird how during the 20th century Italy produced so much of world's cutting-edge graphic design (and design in general, of course) and yet 90% of these symbols look like they're from a 1995 middle school project – as does the official notice above them and election night graphics on every TV channel. Like, why?

You're an out of touch elite, I'm afraid

Would this be more to taste of ordinary Italians?

Salvini links up with Eiffel 65 to make a new version of the "Blue (Da Ba Dee)" video where he shoots PlayStation 1 renders of Albanians

tired: this post is so 1990s because it mentions Eiffel 65 and the PS1
wired: this post is so 1990s because it mentions shooting Albanians [presumably coming off a boat]

[Andrea]

M5S candidates
https://www.movimento5stelle.eu/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/LISTE-DI-CANDIDATI-CAMERA.pdf
https://www.movimento5stelle.eu/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/LISTE-DI-CANDIDATI-SENATO.pdf

Number of votes taken by candidates in the selection processs
https://www.movimento5stelle.eu/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/ESITO-VOTAZIONI-16-AGOSTO-2022.pdf