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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #425 on: September 21, 2020, 10:24:40 AM »
« edited: September 21, 2020, 10:28:10 AM by Cosmopolitanism Will Win »

First SWG projection has Emiliano up 9(!!!), 47-38. If that holds, I think they can pop out the champagne at the Nazareno.

It also has De Luca at 67%. What a nice projection.
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« Reply #426 on: September 21, 2020, 10:25:04 AM »

Looks like Lega is behind in Tuscany in exit polls.  Oh well, I was hoping they could filip this one

"Scratch a libertarian..."

Relieving to see Tuscany leaning towards keeping in its leftist traditions. Fingers crossed for Puglia.

"...and find a tradcath"

(yesterday a friend of mine sent me an article according to which Ceccardi hosted a wake by an anti-gay tradcath group and was accused of not registering civil unions during her term as mayor)

Fingers crossed!!!

...who the hell has an ideology-specific wake

Never mind, I digress. First results trickling in from Veneto and it looks like a real ZAIASLIDE.

Tradcats do. They refuse the Vatican II reforms and so, it's still all said in Latin.

It's not the idea of an FSSP or ICKSP or whatever wake that's baffling to me, it's the idea of a wake that manages to be expressly anti-gay.
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« Reply #427 on: September 21, 2020, 10:35:07 AM »

Looking good for the PS and a disaster for Five Stars Movement
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« Reply #428 on: September 21, 2020, 10:36:16 AM »
« Edited: September 21, 2020, 10:43:58 AM by Everyone's favourite poll worker Baptista Minola »

Looks like Lega is behind in Tuscany in exit polls.  Oh well, I was hoping they could filip this one

"Scratch a libertarian..."

Relieving to see Tuscany leaning towards keeping in its leftist traditions. Fingers crossed for Puglia.

"...and find a tradcath"

(yesterday a friend of mine sent me an article according to which Ceccardi hosted a wake by an anti-gay tradcath group and was accused of not registering civil unions during her term as mayor)

Fingers crossed!!!

...who the hell has an ideology-specific wake

Never mind, I digress. First results trickling in from Veneto and it looks like a real ZAIASLIDE.

Tradcats do. They refuse the Vatican II reforms and so, it's still all said in Latin.

It's not the idea of an FSSP or ICKSP or whatever wake that's baffling to me, it's the idea of a wake that manages to be expressly anti-gay.

As far as I was able to reckon:

1. They seem to protest pretty much everything of what most people would call gay rights.

2. Given that their name is Sentinelle in piedi i.e. "Standing watchguards" what they did is not surprising.

P. S. I think I misused the word tradcath. I am not sure what they believe about Vatican II. I guess I meant tradcon. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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« Reply #429 on: September 21, 2020, 10:36:54 AM »

Looking good for the PS and a disaster for Five Stars Movement

What is the PS?
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« Reply #430 on: September 21, 2020, 10:39:22 AM »

I think he means PD. Typo error, I assume.
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« Reply #431 on: September 21, 2020, 10:39:31 AM »

The relatively weak Yes votes in Veneto and Friuli-Venezia Giulia, was that to be expected? Like the latter in particular doesn't strike me as the kind of place that would stand out in that direction?
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« Reply #432 on: September 21, 2020, 10:40:02 AM »


Or maybe he's still salty about the French PS completely going shıt.
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« Reply #433 on: September 21, 2020, 10:41:26 AM »

I meant PD sorry Tongue. (The PS did quite well in the last mayoral elections btw)
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« Reply #434 on: September 21, 2020, 10:53:34 AM »

The relatively weak Yes votes in Veneto and Friuli-Venezia Giulia, was that to be expected? Like the latter in particular doesn't strike me as the kind of place that would stand out in that direction?

It wasn't particularly expected, although it makes sense if you imagine a lot of Lega voters voting No to try to embarrass the government. Then again, the Lombardy vote is on par with the national average, so maybe the explanation is not so easy. And TAA is over 70% Yes for some reason.
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« Reply #435 on: September 21, 2020, 11:01:15 AM »

The relatively weak Yes votes in Veneto and Friuli-Venezia Giulia, was that to be expected? Like the latter in particular doesn't strike me as the kind of place that would stand out in that direction?

It wasn't particularly expected, although it makes sense if you imagine a lot of Lega voters voting No to try to embarrass the government. Then again, the Lombardy vote is on par with the national average, so maybe the explanation is not so easy. And TAA is over 70% Yes for some reason.

When the number of total Senators gets cut by 33% but TAA only passes from 7 to 6, I guess Trentinians and South Tyroleans will find the option very appealing.
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« Reply #436 on: September 21, 2020, 11:04:19 AM »

Tuscany's going to go to a runoff with these numbers, correct? Just want to confirm/remind myself of things.
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« Reply #437 on: September 21, 2020, 11:18:04 AM »

The relatively weak Yes votes in Veneto and Friuli-Venezia Giulia, was that to be expected? Like the latter in particular doesn't strike me as the kind of place that would stand out in that direction?

It wasn't particularly expected, although it makes sense if you imagine a lot of Lega voters voting No to try to embarrass the government. Then again, the Lombardy vote is on par with the national average, so maybe the explanation is not so easy. And TAA is over 70% Yes for some reason.

Largely due to Südtirol by the looks of it; although the SVP at least appear to have not backed either side so I'm not sure what would be going on there
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« Reply #438 on: September 21, 2020, 11:34:56 AM »

Tuscany's going to go to a runoff with these numbers, correct? Just want to confirm/remind myself of things.

No, the runoff only applies if no candidate reaches 40%.


Largely due to Südtirol by the looks of it; although the SVP at least appear to have not backed either side so I'm not sure what would be going on there

Guess the crypto-Austrians just love the idea of cutting some dead weight in Rome. Tongue Especially combined with Battista's point about relative representation.
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« Reply #439 on: September 21, 2020, 11:36:49 AM »

I have now finished my work as a poll worker and have just got home. It was actually pretty boring.

I am waiting for more precincts reporting for the regionals.

To parochial boy and Antonio: see my post about TAA gaining relative representation through this.
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« Reply #440 on: September 21, 2020, 11:37:29 AM »

Tuscany's going to go to a runoff with these numbers, correct? Just want to confirm/remind myself of things.

No, the runoff only applies if no candidate reaches 40%.


Which is why I asked. There was seeming agreement earlier it also applied if everyone was in the 40s without anyone crossing 50%.
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« Reply #441 on: September 21, 2020, 11:43:56 AM »

New SWG Puglia projection has Emiliano at 46 and Fitto at 38. Slightly less than the first one, but not enough to make a difference.
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« Reply #442 on: September 21, 2020, 11:48:39 AM »
« Edited: September 21, 2020, 12:11:20 PM by Logical »

Center Left overperforming exit polls everywhere except Veneto.
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« Reply #443 on: September 21, 2020, 12:03:02 PM »

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« Reply #444 on: September 21, 2020, 12:08:03 PM »


Welcome to the forum! Smiley

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« Reply #445 on: September 21, 2020, 12:12:07 PM »


Welcome to the forum! Smiley

Are you Calabrese or Sicilian? I'm one of the few people who know what your username means, and I highly approve.

thank you!!
I'm Calabrese, from Gerace.
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« Reply #446 on: September 21, 2020, 12:16:14 PM »

YOUR REVOLUTION IS OVER, CECCARDI! CONDOLENCES! THE FASH LOST! THE FASH WILL ALWAYS LOSE!
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« Reply #447 on: September 21, 2020, 12:18:24 PM »

Meanwhile the right risks winning the Senate by-election in Sardinia (former M5S seat) against a center-left fielding 3 candidates...
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« Reply #448 on: September 21, 2020, 12:21:11 PM »


Welcome to the forum! Smiley

Are you Calabrese or Sicilian? I'm one of the few people who know what your username means, and I highly approve.

thank you!!
I'm Calabrese, from Gerace.

Oh wonderful!! My father is Calabrese, from Melito (I've lived most of my life in France and currently I'm in California as my avatar suggests, but I still feel strongly Italian). It's nice to have a close compatriot on here.
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« Reply #449 on: September 21, 2020, 12:39:17 PM »

YOUR REVOLUTION IS OVER, CECCARDI! CONDOLENCES! THE FASH LOST! THE FASH WILL ALWAYS LOSE!

If it wasn't too long, I would change my display name to "In the privacy of the polling booth, God sees you - Salvini doesn't".
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