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« on: June 15, 2018, 09:27:41 AM »
« edited: June 15, 2018, 09:36:16 AM by Gass3268 »

Iowa: Likely R -> Toss Up
Massachusetts: Likely R -> Solid R
New Hampshire: Lean R -> Likely R
Ohio: Lean R -> Toss Up
Pennsylvania: Lean D -> Likely D
Vermont: Likely R -> Solid R

Other Notes:
- Georgia is still Solid R (lol)
- Illinois is still rated a Toss Up (lol)
- Minnesota is still a Toss Up
- Oklahoma is still rated Solid R
- Wisconsin is still rated Lean R (lol)

They are essentially saying that Bruce Rauner has a better chance of reelection than Scott Walker does of losing...

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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2018, 09:29:25 AM »

You missed two other dumb ratings: GA as Solid R, and MN as a Tossup. I would argue those two are the worst Cook gubernatorial ratings right now.
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2018, 09:46:53 AM »

You missed two other dumb ratings: GA as Solid R, and MN as a Tossup. I would argue those two are the worst Cook gubernatorial ratings right now.

Added those
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2018, 09:52:26 AM »

I'm OK with this.
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2018, 09:53:20 AM »

I agree with the changes they made, but: GA is lean R, OK likely R, MN lean D and IL likely D (closer to safe). And WI is a toss-up as well. Sure, there is just one poll so far, but if a virtually unknown dude leads Walker 59-45% it's not lean R in this political climate.
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2018, 10:09:19 AM »

I agree with the changes they made, but: GA is lean R, OK likely R, MN lean D and IL likely D (closer to safe). And WI is a toss-up as well. Sure, there is just one poll so far, but if a virtually unknown dude leads Walker 59-45% it's not lean R in this political climate.

But muh 3 elections in 4 years!
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2018, 10:19:05 AM »

Georgia and Wisconsin are the real headscratchers
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2018, 10:22:58 AM »

Georgia and Wisconsin are the real headscratchers

Apparently they're waiting until the GOP primary runoff ends to change their rating, which is ridiculous to me. The winner of the primary wouldn't change the race enough that they'd need to wait 40 days to get it out of Solid R.
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2018, 11:01:24 AM »

IL, MN, and ME should not be tossups.

GA should not be solid.
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2018, 11:03:39 AM »

IL, MN, and ME should not be tossups.

GA should not be solid.

ME being a tossup is perfectly reasonable thanks to the fact ME likes to have a ton of left leaning independents on the ballot to let Republicans win on pluralities (see: 2010 and 2014), but I agree with you otherwise.
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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2018, 11:06:07 AM »

I agree with the changes they made, but: GA is lean R, OK likely R, MN lean D and IL likely D (closer to safe). And WI is a toss-up as well. Sure, there is just one poll so far, but if a virtually unknown dude leads Walker 59-45% it's not lean R in this political climate.

But muh 3 elections in 4 years!

But muh WI GOP machine!
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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2018, 11:08:02 AM »

AZ-Tossup
IL-Likely D
Iowa-Tossup
WI-Leans D
Ohio-Leans D
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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2018, 11:21:13 AM »

None of the changes of bad, but plenty of Cook's ratings are nonsense. He's not alone with the Wisconsin nonsense, though, since EVERY major prognosticator has it as Lean R, and arguably Rothenberg is worse, since he has WI-SEN as "Tilt D." That's right, Baldwin is more likely to lose than Walker. At least Cook considers Baldwin more likely to win.

KS as Likely R is also very questionable.
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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2018, 11:25:42 AM »

None of the changes of bad, but plenty of Cook's ratings are nonsense. He's not alone with the Wisconsin nonsense, though, since EVERY major prognosticator has it as Lean R, and arguably Rothenberg is worse, since he has WI-SEN as "Tilt D." That's right, Baldwin is more likely to lose than Walker. At least Cook considers Baldwin more likely to win.

KS as Likely R is also very questionable.

I guess I kind of get waiting until the primary before chaning ratings, but still some of these are nonsense.
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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2018, 11:41:46 AM »

None of the changes of bad, but plenty of Cook's ratings are nonsense. He's not alone with the Wisconsin nonsense, though, since EVERY major prognosticator has it as Lean R, and arguably Rothenberg is worse, since he has WI-SEN as "Tilt D." That's right, Baldwin is more likely to lose than Walker. At least Cook considers Baldwin more likely to win.

KS as Likely R is also very questionable.
That's completely wrong. It should be SAFE R
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« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2018, 12:39:24 PM »

It should be obvious that Cook's ratings are garbage across the board.

IL, MN, WI and ME are only ones not rated correctly
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« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2018, 12:40:21 PM »

It should be obvious that Cook's ratings are garbage across the board.
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« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2018, 12:40:26 PM »

It should be obvious that Cook's ratings are garbage across the board.

IL, MN, WI and ME are only ones not rated correctly

GA is not Solid R.
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« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2018, 01:38:57 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2018, 02:19:32 PM »

How the hell are GA and OK Solid R while IA is a toss-up? GA and OK are probably more competitive than IA, to be honest.
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« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2018, 04:19:50 PM »

He didn't change OH from LR to tossup, he only changed Iowa to tossup
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« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2018, 08:17:48 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2018, 08:21:25 PM »

Georgia and Wisconsin are the real headscratchers

Apparently they're waiting until the GOP primary runoff ends to change their rating, which is ridiculous to me. The winner of the primary wouldn't change the race enough that they'd need to wait 40 days to get it out of Solid R.
That's hilarious, Cagle and Kemp are both awful candidates in their own unique ways. Cagle has just about as many scandals brewing as Silvio Berlusconi and Kemp is about as palatable to Atlanta as Cam Newton.
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« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2018, 04:29:08 AM »

Georgia and Wisconsin are the real headscratchers

Apparently they're waiting until the GOP primary runoff ends to change their rating, which is ridiculous to me. The winner of the primary wouldn't change the race enough that they'd need to wait 40 days to get it out of Solid R.
That's hilarious, Cagle and Kemp are both awful candidates in their own unique ways. Cagle has just about as many scandals brewing as Silvio Berlusconi and Kemp is about as palatable to Atlanta as Cam Newton.

Nevertheless - both are likely to win an election against Stacey Abrams. I can't fathom Georgia electing Black Democratic woman right now. In 10 years - yes. But - not now.
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« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2018, 07:22:13 AM »

IL, MN, and ME should not be tossups.

GA should not be solid.

ME being a tossup is perfectly reasonable thanks to the fact ME likes to have a ton of left leaning independents on the ballot to let Republicans win on pluralities (see: 2010 and 2014), but I agree with you otherwise.

Doesn't RCV make independents kinda irrelevant though?   I can't imagine many people voting for Terry Hayes and then "not" voting for the Dem as second choice.
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