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« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2005, 10:52:51 AM »
You also should give people who like kangaroos information of their new home's kangaroo approval rating.
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« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2005, 10:53:13 AM »
Quote from: Senator Ebowed on October 03, 2005, 10:51:49 AM
If you give black families moving into neighborhoods information about the racially motivated crimes that occured there, it is only fair to give gay people the same information regarding anti-gay motivated crimes.

And if somebody wanted to try to do that, that's fine by me but that wouldn't go with this bill.
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« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2005, 10:54:10 AM »
Quote from: Jake on October 03, 2005, 10:52:51 AM
You also should give people who like kangaroos information of their new home's kangaroo approval rating.

Way off topic...but oh wait....that's what you were trying to do! (Really you think you're making fun of the amendment but you're not. Smiley)
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« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2005, 10:54:40 AM »
It would go with this bill perfectly fine.  Aren't you aware that the U.S. Senate has voted several times to extend the definition of "hate crimes" to include sexual orientation?  Hate crimes don't apply specifically to race.
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« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2005, 10:55:43 AM »
Quote from: Senator Ebowed on October 03, 2005, 10:54:40 AM
It would go with this bill perfectly fine.  Aren't you aware that the U.S. Senate has voted several times to extend the definition of "hate crimes" to include sexual orientation?  Hate crimes don't apply specifically to race.

What, now you want me to write that into the amendment or what?
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« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2005, 10:56:59 AM »
No, I'm just saying the amendment is discriminatory in its current form.
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« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2005, 10:57:41 AM »
Quote from: Senator Ebowed on October 03, 2005, 10:56:59 AM
No, I'm just saying the amendment is discriminatory in its current form.

Then vote against it and get other people to if you want it to fail, that's really all you can do.
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« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2005, 10:58:56 AM »
« Edited: October 03, 2005, 11:08:35 AM by Senator Porce »
Which is what I intend to do.
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« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2005, 11:25:49 AM »
And yet another bill were I agree with everything Ebowed has said, this is getting freaky Wink
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« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2005, 07:07:02 AM »
Quote from: Senator MasterJedi on October 02, 2005, 07:35:43 PM
4. The Atlasian government shall keep track of the number of racially motivated crimes committed after the passage and implementation of this bill. 
The question is on the amendment. All those in favor, say Aye; those opposed, say No.
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« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2005, 07:07:37 AM »
Nay
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« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2005, 07:07:59 AM »
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« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2005, 08:32:45 AM »
Aye
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« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2005, 10:10:31 AM »
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« Reply #39 on: October 05, 2005, 02:46:28 PM »
Nay
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« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2005, 04:21:26 PM »
Abstain.
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« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2005, 05:02:24 PM »
Abstain.
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« Reply #42 on: October 06, 2005, 04:34:19 PM »
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« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2005, 05:17:32 PM »
If I've gotten this right:

4 Aye
2 Nay
2 Abstain

So if one more person votes Aye or Abstain this passes.
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« Reply #44 on: October 06, 2005, 08:33:39 PM »
Aye
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« Reply #45 on: October 06, 2005, 09:44:38 PM »
The amendment is passed.
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« Reply #46 on: October 07, 2005, 02:04:14 AM »
« Edited: October 07, 2005, 02:11:03 AM by Senator Porce »
I propose the following amendment:

5. The Atlasian government shall keep track of the number of crimes committed because of the victim's sex or sexual orientation after the passage and implementation of this bill.


I think it's wrong for the government to keep special track of hate crimes in preference over other types of crime, but now that the Amendment with Clause 4 has been passed, we may as well extend the definition to include gender and sexual orientation.
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« Reply #47 on: October 07, 2005, 07:30:41 AM »
Good idea actually
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« Reply #48 on: October 07, 2005, 08:59:41 AM »
Oh all right if you must, I'll support this bill like Al.
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« Reply #49 on: October 08, 2005, 10:06:05 AM »
Quote from: Senator MasterJedi on October 07, 2005, 08:59:41 AM
Oh all right if you must, I'll support this bill like Al.

I feel the same way. I will, in the end, support this legislation.
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