Obama: maybe I was "10 or 20 years too early"

[Adam Griffin]

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He pushed too far in being a neoliberal not in being a black President.

[KingSweden]

Except the trends behind Trump’s (very narrow) victory aren’t unique to the United States, and are in fact being replicated in various levels of intensity across the West and much of the world

[HillGoose]

He pushed too far in being a neoliberal not in being a black President.

Black people can be neoliberals too

[Wisconsin SC Race 2019]

Yeppers, besides, Obama basically governed on a pre-90s GOP kick. What a waste.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Honestly his problem wasn't going far enough if anything when he had the trifecta. Same with Bill too. The irony is 3/4 of the past 4 administrations had trifectas and each wasted almost all on it on healthcare fights   

[junior chįmp]

Obama's problem was he wasted his political capital on bipartisanship. The GOP was in a death spiral due to Bush and Obama should of pushed them off a cliff and given them a final death blow. Instead Obama pissed away a year and a half thinking he was getting somewhere with the GOP while they were just trolling him and strategically obstructing his legislation.

Hopefully for once, the Democrats have learned their lesson.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Obama's problem was he wasted his political capital on bipartisanship. The GOP was in a death spiral due to Bush and Obama should of pushed them off a cliff and given them a final death blow. Instead Obama pissed away a year and a half thinking he was getting somewhere with the GOP while they were just trolling him and strategically obstructing his legislation.

Hopefully for once, the Democrats have learned their lesson.

The Democrats are not going to have 60 Seats in 2021 like they did in 2009

[Crumpets]

I think Obama was exactly eight years too early, while Clinton was exactly eight years too late.

[junior chįmp]

Obama's problem was he wasted his political capital on bipartisanship. The GOP was in a death spiral due to Bush and Obama should of pushed them off a cliff and given them a final death blow. Instead Obama pissed away a year and a half thinking he was getting somewhere with the GOP while they were just trolling him and strategically obstructing his legislation.

Hopefully for once, the Democrats have learned their lesson.

The Democrats are not going to have 60 Seats in 2021 like they did in 2009

Of course they can. If Trump gets hit with a good obstruction of Justice case and the economy is in a recession then it's possible. Not to mention, the demographics start becoming impossible to avoid by 2020

[KingSweden]

I think Obama was exactly eight years too early, while Clinton was exactly eight years too late.

100%

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I think Obama was exactly eight years too early, while Clinton was exactly eight years too late.

100%

[Dr. Arch]

I think Obama was exactly eight years too early, while Clinton was exactly eight years too late.

100%

[Lord Admirale]

I think Obama was exactly eight years too early, while Clinton was exactly eight years too late.

100%

[Lord Admirale]

President Hillary Clinton (2009-2017) would've been succeeded by President Barack Obama.

[OSR stands with Israel]

I think Obama was exactly eight years too early, while Clinton was exactly eight years too late.

If Hillary won in 2008 I think she would have been a one-term President. If not for Obama running an excellent campaign against Romney, he probably would also have lost reelection in 2012 and Hillary is nowhere near as good of a campaigner as Romney is so she loses. This is what I think happens


2008:

Clinton/Kaine 372
McCain/Pawlenty 166


2012:

Romney/Ryan 285
Clinton/Kaine 253

[JA]

He pushed too far in being a neoliberal not in being a black President.

Aside from America’s standard dumbass hardcore racists, which aren’t a majority, the folks who disliked Obama were either partisan Republicans, were already alienated from the political process, or felt betrayed by Mr. Austerity (aka Obama). His failure was sticking too closely to the status quo, too willingly compromising with Republicans, and failing to be as ambitious as Americans wanted and needed him to be.

[Famous Mortimer]

Only white people are criticized for "falling back into their tribe". Other ethnic groups were never expected to do any such thing. If the left had pushed an assimilationist American nationalism, maybe Trump wouldn't have happened but if they push identity politics for African Americans, Hispanics, and Muslims, white identity politics is going to happen and it's going to be justified.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

He pushed too far in being a neoliberal not in being a black President.

Aside from America’s standard dumbass hardcore racists, which aren’t a majority, the folks who disliked Obama were either partisan Republicans, were already alienated from the political process, or felt betrayed by Mr. Austerity (aka Obama). His failure was sticking too closely to the status quo, too willingly compromising with Republicans, and failing to be as ambitious as Americans wanted and needed him to be.

Well, the most ambitious thing he ever did hurt his popularity for years on end. Obama made mistakes but in the end he did seem to strike the right balance between cautious and ambitious. Some work was inevitably going to be left for his successors - with Obama laying the foundation.

[Mr. Smith]

@Crumpets: Agreed.

2008 was Hillary's best shot, at the perfect point where she was still respected by the base enough to bounce off any opposition, and a dead cat would've defeated McCain by at least 4 points.

And Obama in 2016 would've been less naive and likely kept all the telegeny he needed to beat Trump or Cruz or Cain [yeah, I'm pretty sure Herman Cain actually would've been much stronger if Hillary had won '08].

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Obama should have just declared Martial Law rather than letting Trump assume the presidency. Enough said.

[JA]

Obama should have just declared Martial Law rather than letting Trump assume the presidency. Enough said.

So much for democracy, eh?

[JA]

He pushed too far in being a neoliberal not in being a black President.

Aside from America’s standard dumbass hardcore racists, which aren’t a majority, the folks who disliked Obama were either partisan Republicans, were already alienated from the political process, or felt betrayed by Mr. Austerity (aka Obama). His failure was sticking too closely to the status quo, too willingly compromising with Republicans, and failing to be as ambitious as Americans wanted and needed him to be.

Well, the most ambitious thing he ever did hurt his popularity for years on end. Obama made mistakes but in the end he did seem to strike the right balance between cautious and ambitious. Some work was inevitably going to be left for his successors - with Obama laying the foundation.

Obama’s “most ambitious” plan was sh** and deserved to be reviled.

[darklordoftech]

Honestly his problem wasn't going far enough if anything when he had the trifecta. Same with Bill too. The irony is 3/4 of the past 4 administrations had trifectas and each wasted almost all on it on healthcare fights   

3/4? Besides Clinton and Obama, who do you have in mind?

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

He pushed too far in being a neoliberal not in being a black President.

Aside from America’s standard dumbass hardcore racists, which aren’t a majority, the folks who disliked Obama were either partisan Republicans, were already alienated from the political process, or felt betrayed by Mr. Austerity (aka Obama). His failure was sticking too closely to the status quo, too willingly compromising with Republicans, and failing to be as ambitious as Americans wanted and needed him to be.

Well, the most ambitious thing he ever did hurt his popularity for years on end. Obama made mistakes but in the end he did seem to strike the right balance between cautious and ambitious. Some work was inevitably going to be left for his successors - with Obama laying the foundation.

Obama’s “most ambitious” plan was sh** and deserved to be reviled.

Obamacare helped millions of poor people. That's something he deserves praise for.
Thanks to Obamacare, people now increasingly see healthcare as a right, not as a privilege.
Obama will never apologize for passing healthcare reform, and he never should. It might not be perfect from your POV but it's something. Many presidents have tried to do transformative healthcare reform. Only Obama and LBJ have pulled it off. Don't let the perfect become the enemy of the good!