CA-Sen Primary - Gravis: Feinstein (D) 32%, Bradley (R) 19%, Cruz (R) 13
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« on: May 09, 2018, 03:13:15 PM »

A new poll for California Senate Primary from Gravis Marketing. This poll did not include all of the candidates who are running. https://d2pggiv3o55wnc.cloudfront.net/oann/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/OAN-POLL.pdf

Feinstein 32%
Bradley 19%
Cruz 13%
De Leon 8%
Hartson 6%
Melendez 3%
Hildebrand 2%
Uncertain 16%
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2018, 01:47:03 PM »

As someone who thinks the term "garbage poll" gets thrown around a little too freely, this poll is absolute garbage, for a multitude of reasons...

1. Gravis would have you believe Trump's favorability is at 47/51%, in *California.*
2. They'd also have you believe that 1 in 4 California *Democrats* views Trump favorably.
3. They'd also have you believe Trump's favorability breaks even with California Latinos (47/48%). Meanwhile, 2016 exits indicated Clinton carried Latinos with 71% of the vote
4. They'd also have you believe that 34% of California African Americans view Trump favorably (only 9% voted for him in 2016).
5. Their sample finds Clinton defeated Trump in 2016 by 14 points. The actual margin was more than double that.

Obviously, I left out several glaring issues (like Cox leading the Governor primary), but yeah, you can throw this one in the dumpster...then set the dumpster on fire.
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2018, 02:12:42 PM »

Looks like junk.
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2018, 03:53:00 PM »

As someone who thinks the term "garbage poll" gets thrown around a little too freely, this poll is absolute garbage, for a multitude of reasons...

1. Gravis would have you believe Trump's favorability is at 47/51%, in *California.*
2. They'd also have you believe that 1 in 4 California *Democrats* views Trump favorably.
3. They'd also have you believe Trump's favorability breaks even with California Latinos (47/48%). Meanwhile, 2016 exits indicated Clinton carried Latinos with 71% of the vote
4. They'd also have you believe that 34% of California African Americans view Trump favorably (only 9% voted for him in 2016).
5. Their sample finds Clinton defeated Trump in 2016 by 14 points. The actual margin was more than double that.

Obviously, I left out several glaring issues (like Cox leading the Governor primary), but yeah, you can throw this one in the dumpster...then set the dumpster on fire.

One problem is that you can't really combine strongly favorable and somewhat favorable. Somewhat favorable isn't the same as strongly favorable. There are certain reasons that some might say he is somewhat favorable. I wish they would just ask favorable or unfavorable. People don't always remember who they voted for in the last Presidential election Also the sample is 45% Democrat, 28% Independent or other and 27% Republican and its done by a non-partisan pollster. If Cox gets more than 50% of Republicans it wouldn't be that surprising if he finished with 23% of the overall vote.
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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2018, 07:28:39 PM »

As someone who thinks the term "garbage poll" gets thrown around a little too freely, this poll is absolute garbage, for a multitude of reasons...

1. Gravis would have you believe Trump's favorability is at 47/51%, in *California.*
2. They'd also have you believe that 1 in 4 California *Democrats* views Trump favorably.
3. They'd also have you believe Trump's favorability breaks even with California Latinos (47/48%). Meanwhile, 2016 exits indicated Clinton carried Latinos with 71% of the vote
4. They'd also have you believe that 34% of California African Americans view Trump favorably (only 9% voted for him in 2016).
5. Their sample finds Clinton defeated Trump in 2016 by 14 points. The actual margin was more than double that.

Obviously, I left out several glaring issues (like Cox leading the Governor primary), but yeah, you can throw this one in the dumpster...then set the dumpster on fire.

One problem is that you can't really combine strongly favorable and somewhat favorable. Somewhat favorable isn't the same as strongly favorable. There are certain reasons that some might say he is somewhat favorable. I wish they would just ask favorable or unfavorable. People don't always remember who they voted for in the last Presidential election Also the sample is 45% Democrat, 28% Independent or other and 27% Republican and its done by a non-partisan pollster. If Cox gets more than 50% of Republicans it wouldn't be that surprising if he finished with 23% of the overall vote.

A combined 'strongly/somewhat favorable' vs. 'strongly/somewhat unfavorable' question would yield the same, or very similar results as a favorable vs. unfavorable question. Or maybe that's just me.
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