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« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2018, 08:43:07 AM »

Why are some people so opposed to this? I don’t know any girl who would chose to sell cookies over going hiking/camping/fishing/canoeing/earning merit badges.
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« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2018, 08:46:17 AM »

Why are some people so opposed to this? I don’t know any girl who would chose to sell cookies over going hiking/camping/fishing/canoeing/earning merit badges.

Then they should start doing that in Girl Scouts.
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« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2018, 09:15:41 AM »

Will they start selling cookies too? And if so, does this mean the price will go down because the Girl Scots will no longer have a monopoly on the Thin Mints market?

I’d like to know this, too.

Anyways I was never a Scout so I have no hot takes for anyone. They’re a private organization, if they want to change their name and allow girls to join then whatever. Power to them, I guess.
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« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2018, 09:22:26 AM »
« Edited: May 03, 2018, 10:33:00 AM by TexasGurl »

Don't really care, but that's pretty stupid.
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« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2018, 09:26:44 AM »

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« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2018, 10:10:33 AM »

By the time we're done, there will be no activities for boys that will be exclusively for boys.  

Is that really a good thing?

Have you even bothered to read? Troops will still be generally segregated.
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« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2018, 10:15:33 AM »

Why are some people so opposed to this? I don’t know any girl who would chose to sell cookies over going hiking/camping/fishing/canoeing/earning merit badges.

Then they should start doing that in Girl Scouts.

That’s literally what should be happening, but apparently it isn’t, so...
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« Reply #32 on: May 03, 2018, 10:17:36 AM »

From what I can tell this change was more an internal change born out of a desire by the national organization to keep scouting relevant in society. I haven’t seen much evidence that this was the result of the BSA caving to some intense pressure from “feminist/SJW/snowflake” groups. And it sounds like individual troops will have discretion to figure out how to implement these changes.

I’m personally not in love with the name change. But as an Eagle Scout, I say that if a girl is able to complete the necessary tasks to earn the merit badges and climb the ranks, then let her join. The values expressed in the Scout Oath and the Scout Law don’t belong to men alone.
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« Reply #33 on: May 03, 2018, 10:21:46 AM »

By the time we're done, there will be no activities for boys that will be exclusively for boys.  

Is that really a good thing?

That’s an exaggeration, but if that was to occur, then yes, that would be a good thing.
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« Reply #34 on: May 03, 2018, 11:02:06 AM »

Effective soon, the Boy Scouts of America (which I was in during middle and high school) will be changing its name to simply, "Scouts BSA", as it accepts girls into the program.

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/News/boy-scouts-america-change-iconic-girls-enter-older/story?id=54878120

Are you freaking kidding me.

This is not just a scrapping of a longstanding tradition for "equality", it's an attack on my childhood.

There will soon be no more boy only organizations. Girl only, and organizations for both genders, will be the only left. No more boy only organizations, because that's "sexist" and it's on the "wrong side of history". Boys won't be able to learn the things they would regularly learn. Male troop leaders would be constantly accused of pedophilia. All of this because of a bunch of spoiled brats, girls and liberal women alike, who couldn't tolerate being restricted from an organization made for the opposite gender.

I bet a huge sum of money I can't find a single person on the forum that thinks this is a good idea, or even acceptable at all.
I'll chime in here, since I'm an Eagle Scout. First, I have no problem with the idea. I've read about this and it's not like they are mixing boys and girls together. There will be separate boys and girls patrols. Also as other people pointed out the organization as a whole will still be called Boy Scouts of America.

A family in my scout troop that I knew well had multiple boys in my troop. They also had a sister in Girl Scouts, but she didn't really enjoy it because the Girls Scouts focused on feminine activities and she wanted to go shooting, backpacking and do other Boy Scout Activities. Honestly I don't think this idea will lead to a lot of girls joining Boy Scouts, but it opens up the opportunity for those who do.

Boy Scout won't start selling cookies, that's for Girl Scouts. The whole point is for girls to be able to do what the Boy Scouts do. Also Boy Scouts is not a right wing organization that is looking at indoctrinating young girls with conservative anti-feminist ideas. At least in my Scout troop there were many people with different political views. We did have a mock election in 2008 and McCain won by like 2 votes. So my troop was pretty split down the middle.
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« Reply #35 on: May 03, 2018, 11:05:15 AM »

my parents wouldn't allow me to be a scout lol
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« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2018, 11:06:21 AM »

I think this is a good move for the Boy Scouts of America to make.
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« Reply #37 on: May 03, 2018, 11:08:31 AM »

No one is forcing BSA into doing anything.
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« Reply #38 on: May 03, 2018, 11:26:47 AM »

Why do you care that girls can be a part of the Scouts who do things that are actually fun, instead of the Girl Scouts?
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« Reply #39 on: May 03, 2018, 11:27:21 AM »

This is not just a scrapping of a longstanding tradition for "equality", it's an attack on my childhood.
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« Reply #40 on: May 03, 2018, 11:30:02 AM »

Also, this may just be me here, but if I was a conservative parent with a daughter I'd be excited that I am now able to put my girl into a scouting program that won't fill her head with liberal thoughts like the Girl Scouts.
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« Reply #41 on: May 03, 2018, 11:32:00 AM »

By the time we're done, there will be no activities for boys that will be exclusively for boys.  

Is that really a good thing?
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« Reply #42 on: May 03, 2018, 11:37:45 AM »

By the time we're done, there will be no activities for boys that will be exclusively for boys.  

Is that really a good thing?

as long as there's no activities that are exclusively for girls too I think that's pretty good!
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« Reply #43 on: May 03, 2018, 11:37:55 AM »

Effective soon, the Boy Scouts of America (which I was in during middle and high school) will be changing its name to simply, "Scouts BSA", as it accepts girls into the program.

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/News/boy-scouts-america-change-iconic-girls-enter-older/story?id=54878120

Are you freaking kidding me.

This is not just a scrapping of a longstanding tradition for "equality", it's an attack on my childhood.

There will soon be no more boy only organizations. Girl only, and organizations for both genders, will be the only left. No more boy only organizations, because that's "sexist" and it's on the "wrong side of history". Boys won't be able to learn the things they would regularly learn. Male troop leaders would be constantly accused of pedophilia. All of this because of a bunch of spoiled brats, girls and liberal women alike, who couldn't tolerate being restricted from an organization made for the opposite gender.

I bet a huge sum of money I can't find a single person on the forum that thinks this is a good idea, or even acceptable at all.
I'll chime in here, since I'm an Eagle Scout. First, I have no problem with the idea. I've read about this and it's not like they are mixing boys and girls together. There will be separate boys and girls patrols. Also as other people pointed out the organization as a whole will still be called Boy Scouts of America.

A family in my scout troop that I knew well had multiple boys in my troop. They also had a sister in Girl Scouts, but she didn't really enjoy it because the Girls Scouts focused on feminine activities and she wanted to go shooting, backpacking and do other Boy Scout Activities. Honestly I don't think this idea will lead to a lot of girls joining Boy Scouts, but it opens up the opportunity for those who do.

Boy Scout won't start selling cookies, that's for Girl Scouts. The whole point is for girls to be able to do what the Boy Scouts do. Also Boy Scouts is not a right wing organization that is looking at indoctrinating young girls with conservative anti-feminist ideas. At least in my Scout troop there were many people with different political views. We did have a mock election in 2008 and McCain won by like 2 votes. So my troop was pretty split down the middle.

This is a smart, well-considered response to this subject, rather than the usual preening
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« Reply #44 on: May 03, 2018, 12:15:19 PM »

Effective soon, the Boy Scouts of America (which I was in during middle and high school) will be changing its name to simply, "Scouts BSA", as it accepts girls into the program.

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/News/boy-scouts-america-change-iconic-girls-enter-older/story?id=54878120

Are you freaking kidding me.

This is not just a scrapping of a longstanding tradition for "equality", it's an attack on my childhood.

There will soon be no more boy only organizations. Girl only, and organizations for both genders, will be the only left. No more boy only organizations, because that's "sexist" and it's on the "wrong side of history". Boys won't be able to learn the things they would regularly learn. Male troop leaders would be constantly accused of pedophilia. All of this because of a bunch of spoiled brats, girls and liberal women alike, who couldn't tolerate being restricted from an organization made for the opposite gender.

I bet a huge sum of money I can't find a single person on the forum that thinks this is a good idea, or even acceptable at all.
I'll chime in here, since I'm an Eagle Scout. First, I have no problem with the idea. I've read about this and it's not like they are mixing boys and girls together. There will be separate boys and girls patrols. Also as other people pointed out the organization as a whole will still be called Boy Scouts of America.

A family in my scout troop that I knew well had multiple boys in my troop. They also had a sister in Girl Scouts, but she didn't really enjoy it because the Girls Scouts focused on feminine activities and she wanted to go shooting, backpacking and do other Boy Scout Activities. Honestly I don't think this idea will lead to a lot of girls joining Boy Scouts, but it opens up the opportunity for those who do.

Boy Scout won't start selling cookies, that's for Girl Scouts. The whole point is for girls to be able to do what the Boy Scouts do. Also Boy Scouts is not a right wing organization that is looking at indoctrinating young girls with conservative anti-feminist ideas. At least in my Scout troop there were many people with different political views. We did have a mock election in 2008 and McCain won by like 2 votes. So my troop was pretty split down the middle.

This is a smart, well-considered response to this subject, rather than the usual preening

In my personal experiences, many of the leaders in Scouting are on the right (focusing on the ideals of social order). Most of the moderates or Democrats were the quieter, more reserved leaders. I fall under the latter expectation myself!
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« Reply #45 on: May 03, 2018, 12:19:45 PM »

I think the entire thing is disgusting.  BOYS should be in the BOY Scouts, and GIRLS should be in the GIRL Scouts.  That's why the Scout groups are named like they are.  One is for boys, and one is for girls!  I know, how ridiculous!  🙄
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« Reply #46 on: May 03, 2018, 12:21:58 PM »

I think the entire thing is disgusting.  BOYS should be in the BOY Scouts, and GIRLS should be in the GIRL Scouts.  That's why the Scout groups are named like they are.  One is for boys, and one is for girls!  I know, how ridiculous!  🙄
How ridiculous that girls can now join the scout group that does the things they might want to. They can only do "girl scout approved" activities, obviously.
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« Reply #47 on: May 03, 2018, 12:26:25 PM »

I think this speaks to a bigger problem about the Girl Scouts. Why don't they have the opportunities for girls to do these things in the Girl Scouts?
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« Reply #48 on: May 03, 2018, 12:32:44 PM »

1. If you aren't an Eagle Scout or currently involved in Scouting somehow, you don't get an opinion on this.

So other than you and me, does anyone else here get to have an opinion? Do any other Eagle Scouts post here?
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« Reply #49 on: May 03, 2018, 12:34:55 PM »

Also, this may just be me here, but if I was a conservative parent with a daughter I'd be excited that I am now able to put my girl into a scouting program that won't fill her head with liberal thoughts like the Girl Scouts.

Oh, absolutely!
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