Why Do Roseanne Barr and Kanye West Support Trump?

[Dr. Arch]

First of all, Roseanne is not a Jill Stein leftist. She actually hates Stein with a personal passion. They had a very nasty fight for the Green nomination.

She may not align personally, but politically there are cut from very similar cloth.

But as to the question, the answer is clear and simple: they stand for the working people.

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[Politician]

A finger to the "establishment", even though they disagree completely on most issues. Also Jill Stein who constantly barraged Hillary on Twitter but never peeped about Trump.

[Statilius the Epicurean]

I'm pretty sure Kanye greatly admires Trump as a personality: they're both successful celebrities who rely on an image cultivated by excessive braggadocio. The politics came after.

(I have no idea who Roseanne Barr is.)

[Pyro]

They're contrarians who are vying for attention and publicity.

This is all it is. Neither now seem to care too greatly about politics nor how it affect regular people.
They're celebrities, after all. As with Trump, it's about the ratings.

[HillGoose]

"I'm a poor worker, waaah, I don't get everything I want, I neglected my education and had children as a teenager and never left my dying small town and dug myself into a hole of debt and and I'm going to blame the entire rest of the planet except myself for it! waah!"

- Apparently the people that Roseanne Barr and Kayne West want Trump to support.

I cannot imagine the above poster having any sort of empathy.

Since he has said he only keeps "friends" that are "useful to him", he doesn't.

I might have said "useful," but what I meant was that I found value in. I'm not going to try to help someone who wouldn't even appreciate my helping them. If someone's going to be a jerk to me they can rot.

That's why I don't want to pay to dig the "working class" out of the hole some of them have put themselves in. If they won't treat me with any gratitude or appreciation, I don't feel like they should expect any of my taxpayer dollars.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

I wish we could throw a third ethnic in this group and it would perfectly explain everything I support in politics. Did Gay Talese support Obama initially as well?

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Hollywood isn't unanimously liberal, just like in the case of Kid Rock as well. But, they play towards the secular media and Y2K generation and they are overwhelmingly liberal.

[courts]

"I'm a poor worker, waaah, I don't get everything I want, I neglected my education and had children as a teenager and never left my dying small town and dug myself into a hole of debt and and I'm going to blame the entire rest of the planet except myself for it! waah!"

- Apparently the people that Roseanne Barr and Kayne West want Trump to support.

I cannot imagine the above poster having any sort of empathy.

Since he has said he only keeps "friends" that are "useful to him", he doesn't.

I might have said "useful," but what I meant was that I found value in. I'm not going to try to help someone who wouldn't even appreciate my helping them. If someone's going to be a jerk to me they can rot.

That's why I don't want to pay to dig the "working class" out of the hole some of them have put themselves in. If they won't treat me with any gratitude or appreciation, I don't feel like they should expect any of my taxpayer dollars.

nah you're a funny guy.just relax man.if you're actually making some money trading now why stay angry

[publicunofficial]

I think a key point here is that Kanye has yet to name a single POLICY of the Republican Party or Trump that he actually supports and likes. Not the wall, not the tax breaks, he's not yelling about there only being 2 genders, ect. He's just saying vague stuff about keeping an open mind and "bringing empathy to MAGA" and such. 

That's why I think this more about getting attention/causing controversy more than anything else.

[HillGoose]

"I'm a poor worker, waaah, I don't get everything I want, I neglected my education and had children as a teenager and never left my dying small town and dug myself into a hole of debt and and I'm going to blame the entire rest of the planet except myself for it! waah!"

- Apparently the people that Roseanne Barr and Kayne West want Trump to support.

I cannot imagine the above poster having any sort of empathy.

Since he has said he only keeps "friends" that are "useful to him", he doesn't.

I might have said "useful," but what I meant was that I found value in. I'm not going to try to help someone who wouldn't even appreciate my helping them. If someone's going to be a jerk to me they can rot.

That's why I don't want to pay to dig the "working class" out of the hole some of them have put themselves in. If they won't treat me with any gratitude or appreciation, I don't feel like they should expect any of my taxpayer dollars.

nah you're a funny guy.just relax man.if you're actually making some money trading now why stay angry

I try my best not to get angry... but when the "working class" seems to think that I owe them some of my hard earned money to help them erase whatever mistakes they made in their life, that's where I have a problem.

No one put a gun to these people's head and told them to have children as a teenager, or not to go to college, or to take the easy way out and get a job that would be made obsolete instead of aiming higher, or to get into a bunch of credit card debt, or to take out a mortgage that they couldn't afford.

So why should I have to suffer for their decisions? And why should they treat me like it's my responsibility to fix their mistakes?

[Goldwater]

Maybe because both of them have always been awful?

[courts]

"I'm a poor worker, waaah, I don't get everything I want, I neglected my education and had children as a teenager and never left my dying small town and dug myself into a hole of debt and and I'm going to blame the entire rest of the planet except myself for it! waah!"

- Apparently the people that Roseanne Barr and Kayne West want Trump to support.

I cannot imagine the above poster having any sort of empathy.

Since he has said he only keeps "friends" that are "useful to him", he doesn't.

I might have said "useful," but what I meant was that I found value in. I'm not going to try to help someone who wouldn't even appreciate my helping them. If someone's going to be a jerk to me they can rot.

That's why I don't want to pay to dig the "working class" out of the hole some of them have put themselves in. If they won't treat me with any gratitude or appreciation, I don't feel like they should expect any of my taxpayer dollars.

nah you're a funny guy.just relax man.if you're actually making some money trading now why stay angry

I try my best not to get angry... but when the "working class" seems to think that I owe them some of my hard earned money to help them erase whatever mistakes they made in their life, that's where I have a problem.

No one put a gun to these people's head and told them to have children as a teenager, or not to go to college, or to take the easy way out and get a job that would be made obsolete instead of aiming higher, or to get into a bunch of credit card debt, or to take out a mortgage that they couldn't afford.

So why should I have to suffer for their decisions? And why should they treat me like it's my responsibility to fix their mistakes?

well,even if you didn't become poor from getting into an accident.. or for medical reasons..its not great to have a bunch of people in poverty that might otherwise recover.sort of makes us all worse off.but i get your point.some people really are just poor because they're irresponsible.i know this guy in massive debt that refused to declare bankruptcy or do anything to improve his situation.too lazy to apply for food stamps.wouldn't cut back on anything.eventually his room mate ditched him because she got tired of bailing him out.if people won't help themselves you can't help them

[Yellowhammer]

Everyone knows that Roseanne is crazy as a bat, and probably Kanye too, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[Progressive Pessimist]

I think a key point here is that Kanye has yet to name a single POLICY of the Republican Party or Drumpf that he actually supports and likes. Not the wall, not the tax breaks, he's not yelling about there only being 2 genders, ect. He's just saying vague stuff about keeping an open mind and "bringing empathy to MAGA" and such. 

That's why I think this more about getting attention/causing controversy more than anything else.

That's true of a lot of Trump's "accomplishments." He is in office during certain successes but no one can seem to connect a policy to that success. "Lowest black unemployment ever!"-Okay, what did he do to make that happen? Trump seems to think his mere position in the Oval Office is somehow enough. Unfortunately, too many people will probably still buy into that premise.

[Alabama_Indy10]

For the attention, probably.

[Maxwell]

Roseanne Barr supports Trump because social media has melted her brain. Coincidentally, this is actually why Roseanne Barr is incredibly relatable, not because her dumb show and it's fake working class nonsense or her supporting trump or whatever.

Something at the root of Barr, West, and Trump is narcissism. In fact, narcissism seems to be the element that brings a lot of people who otherwise would be ideologically diverse into the Trump fold. Years ago, Piers Morgan and Alex Jones had an infamous gun debate where Jones basically shouted the whole time. Morgan and Jones both support Trump almost unequivocally.

[krazen1211]

With Kanye West's endorsement President Donald Trump has doubled his support from black voters.

[HillGoose]

With Kanye West's endorsement President Donald Trump has doubled his support from black voters.

are they complete idiots?

[Maxwell]

With Kanye West's endorsement President Donald Trump has doubled his support from black voters.

from 1 to 2 people?

[HillGoose]

With Kanye West's endorsement President Donald Trump has doubled his support from black voters.

from 1 to 2 people?

If Trump was supported by 15% of black voters (I don't exactly know, but probably somewhere around there) and this doubled his support to 30%, does that mean 15% of black voters are really so dumb as to be swayed by some mentally ill celebrity's endorsement?

Honestly if that's true, that means his increase in support is probably from high school dropouts or similarly unaware and uneducated people.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

With Kanye West's endorsement President Donald Trump has doubled his support from black voters.

from 1 to 2 people?

If Trump was supported by 15% of black voters (I don't exactly know, but probably somewhere around there) and this doubled his support to 30%, does that mean 15% of black voters are really so dumb as to be swayed by some mentally ill celebrity's endorsement?

Honestly if that's true, that means his increase in support is probably from high school dropouts or similarly unaware and uneducated people.

No Republican in the 21st century has reached double digits in the black vote, let alone 15%. 30% is pretty much impossible bar a major party alignment.

[courts]

With Kanye West's endorsement President Donald Trump has doubled his support from black voters.

from 1 to 2 people?

If Trump was supported by 15% of black voters (I don't exactly know, but probably somewhere around there) and this doubled his support to 30%, does that mean 15% of black voters are really so dumb as to be swayed by some mentally ill celebrity's endorsement?

Honestly if that's true, that means his increase in support is probably from high school dropouts or similarly unaware and uneducated people.

No Republican in the 21st century has reached double digits in the black vote, let alone 15%. 30% is pretty much impossible bar a major party alignment.

i hope we get to that point

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

With Kanye West's endorsement President Donald Trump has doubled his support from black voters.

from 1 to 2 people?

If Trump was supported by 15% of black voters (I don't exactly know, but probably somewhere around there) and this doubled his support to 30%, does that mean 15% of black voters are really so dumb as to be swayed by some mentally ill celebrity's endorsement?

Honestly if that's true, that means his increase in support is probably from high school dropouts or similarly unaware and uneducated people.

No Republican in the 21st century has reached double digits in the black vote, let alone 15%. 30% is pretty much impossible bar a major party alignment.

i hope we get to that point

If the party system actually had black voters as swingy, then both parties probably are at least economically moderate, with social issues being the divider.

[Cold War Liberal]

With Kanye West's endorsement President Donald Trump has doubled his support from black voters.

from 1 to 2 people?

If Trump was supported by 15% of black voters (I don't exactly know, but probably somewhere around there) and this doubled his support to 30%, does that mean 15% of black voters are really so dumb as to be swayed by some mentally ill celebrity's endorsement?

Honestly if that's true, that means his increase in support is probably from high school dropouts or similarly unaware and uneducated people.

Or possibly... College Dropouts

(I'll see myself out)

Also krazen is wrong, per usual. If anything, Kanye's statements will turn people away from Kanye, not towards Trump.

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

1. Roseanne Barr is one of those Jill Stein-style leftists whose main dislike is for the political center, and is more willing to entertain far-right theories than she is anything that reflects the so-called "neoliberal consensus."

I almost wonder if this is confirmation of the horseshoe effect, at least in part.

In Germany, we have a technical historical term for such kind of cooperation: Querfront.

As for Kanye, he simply suffers from the same megalomanic syndrome as Trump.