ME-01: Former Dem Grohman challenging Pingree, endorsed by LePage, 26 other GOPs

[MAINEiac4434]

In Maine’s less-interesting 1st District, Democrat-turned-Independent Martin Grohman, a State Rep from Biddeford, is challenging Chellie Pingree.

He will lose.

[MAINEiac4434]

In case you're wondering, Grohman is running as an insufferable centrist. His slogan is "Fix not Fight" and he just retweeted someone (bronz?) praising "centrist independents."

[Young Conservative]

Could he take enough votes from Pingree to make this competitive with a serious GOP candidate?

[TheRocketRaccoon]

Could he take enough votes from Pingree to make this competitive with a serious GOP candidate?

Pingree's been winning this district 60-40 (including an independent in 2014 who siphoned votes from the Repub), so... no.

[TheSaint250]

Did he switch to independent in the centrist direction or the left-wing direction? I know there are a few of both there.

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Did he switch to independent in the centrist direction or the left-wing direction? I know there are a few of both there.

Read Above Saint

In case you're wondering, Grohman is running as an insufferable centrist. His slogan is "Fix not Fight" and he just retweeted someone (bronz?) praising "centrist independents."

[TheSaint250]

Did he switch to independent in the centrist direction or the left-wing direction? I know there are a few of both there.

Read Above Saint

In case you're wondering, Grohman is running as an insufferable centrist. His slogan is "Fix not Fight" and he just retweeted someone (bronz?) praising "centrist independents."

Lol thanks I read right over that.

He sounds like my type of independent

[MAINEiac4434]

Could he take enough votes from Pingree to make this competitive with a serious GOP candidate?

There is no reasonable Republican; Mark Holbrook is a crazy person.

In theory, yes, if Mark Holbrook was not the Republican nominee, and not in a Trump midterm.

[MAINEiac4434]

Republicans quarantining their nominee as LePage backs Grohman:

https://www.timesrecord.com/articles/maine-1/lepage-backs-independent-in-congressional-race/

https://twitter.com/mgrohman/status/1009553170719072256?s=21

I hate this guy.

[Bidenworth2020]

Republicans quarantining their nominee as LePage backs Grohman:

https://www.timesrecord.com/articles/maine-1/lepage-backs-independent-in-congressional-race/

https://twitter.com/mgrohman/status/1009553170719072256?s=21

I hate this guy.

will he win?

[wesmoorenerd]

Republicans quarantining their nominee as LePage backs Grohman:

https://www.timesrecord.com/articles/maine-1/lepage-backs-independent-in-congressional-race/

https://twitter.com/mgrohman/status/1009553170719072256?s=21

I hate this guy.

will he win?

No. ME-01 is Dem-leaning in an average year, and this is no average year. I personally doubt Maine, especailly ME-01, is going to be friendly territory to any Republican this year. Not to mention Pingree is decently strong and the entry of Grohman will just end up splitting the vote.

[America needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

I think people are forgetting that IRV is a thing now.

[MAINEiac4434]

I think people are forgetting that IRV is a thing now.

Another reason why Pingree will win. Are we expecting people who vote for Grohman first to put hardcore Trumpist Mark Holbrook as their second choice?

Anyway, Grohman is the embodiment of everything I hate about centrists. "If we get both sides together, we can compromise and figure it out!" "We need civility from both sides!" "Let's try to find some common ground!" "Fix not fight!"

There are parts of the Republican platform that should be defeated wholesale, that no one outside of their most devoted adherents should have any interest in compromising on.

[TheSaint250]

Republicans quarantining their nominee as LePage backs Grohman:

wait what

[KingSweden]

I think people are forgetting that IRV is a thing now.

Another reason why Pingree will win. Are we expecting people who vote for Grohman first to put hardcore Trumpist Mark Holbrook as their second choice?

Anyway, Grohman is the embodiment of everything I hate about centrists. "If we get both sides together, we can compromise and figure it out!" "We need civility from both sides!" "Let's try to find some common ground!" "Fix not fight!"

There are parts of the Republican platform that should be defeated wholesale, that no one outside of their most devoted adherents should have any interest in compromising on.

Is IRV in place for the general?

[Kodak]

I think people are forgetting that IRV is a thing now.

Another reason why Pingree will win. Are we expecting people who vote for Grohman first to put hardcore Trumpist Mark Holbrook as their second choice?

Anyway, Grohman is the embodiment of everything I hate about centrists. "If we get both sides together, we can compromise and figure it out!" "We need civility from both sides!" "Let's try to find some common ground!" "Fix not fight!"

There are parts of the Republican platform that should be defeated wholesale, that no one outside of their most devoted adherents should have any interest in compromising on.

Is IRV in place for the general?

Yes, but only for the Congressional elections, because the state constitution won't allow it for statewide elections.

[BBD]

What a joke. Former Democrat, moderate hero, endorsed by Paul LePage??? Easy win for Pingree especially with ranked choice in place for federal elections.

[MAINEiac4434]

Republicans quarantining their nominee as LePage backs Grohman:

wait what

Holbrook's kind of a nutjob. If he's too far right for even LePage, how do you think he'd do in the ultraliberal 1st district?

Also: here's a picture with Grohman grinning amicably with the Republican nominee for Governor.

[America Needs R'hllor]

I think people are forgetting that IRV is a thing now.

Another reason why Pingree will win. Are we expecting people who vote for Grohman first to put hardcore Trumpist Mark Holbrook as their second choice?

Anyway, Grohman is the embodiment of everything I hate about centrists. "If we get both sides together, we can compromise and figure it out!" "We need civility from both sides!" "Let's try to find some common ground!" "Fix not fight!"

There are parts of the Republican platform that should be defeated wholesale, that no one outside of their most devoted adherents should have any interest in compromising on.

I mean, we do need civility, but many centrists are hypocrites about it, this guy included. LePage is literally the stark opposite of civility.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Wow, this guy sounds terrible. I look forward to see him trounced.

[MAINEiac4434]

I think people are forgetting that IRV is a thing now.

Another reason why Pingree will win. Are we expecting people who vote for Grohman first to put hardcore Trumpist Mark Holbrook as their second choice?

Anyway, Grohman is the embodiment of everything I hate about centrists. "If we get both sides together, we can compromise and figure it out!" "We need civility from both sides!" "Let's try to find some common ground!" "Fix not fight!"

There are parts of the Republican platform that should be defeated wholesale, that no one outside of their most devoted adherents should have any interest in compromising on.

I mean, we do need civility, but many centrists are hypocrites about it, this guy included. LePage is literally the stark opposite of civility.

Calling out Democrats for not being "civil" right now is the equivalent of calling out Solidarity in Poland for not being civil in their fight against Communism. Direct action and vigorous opposition is the best way to confront the Trump regime.

[TheSaint250]

I hope Grohman does well.

[MAINEiac4434]

A poll found Grohman got 27% of first preference votes, but it was backed by an astroturfing "centrist" organization and they didn't publish the numbers for Pingree and Holbrook. (They also didn't publish horserace numbers for the gubernatorial race).

I mean, look at how they're trying to spin this dreadful poll for Grohman: https://www.uniteamerica.org/maine_poll

[Progressive Pessimist]

Why?

[KingSweden]

Guys like this douchenozzle are precisely why I describe myself as a moderate rather than a centrist