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« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2018, 03:02:50 PM »

Even if it was consensual it would still be degenerate.

There is nothing degenerate about sexual relations within a church-recognized marriage.

Sex slavery and BDSM are not normal sexual relations.
What you allow yourself as "normal sexual relations" might just be seen as a form of sex slavery by someone else.  This guy had a contract, you have "normal sexual relations". 

The holier you get, the more you become enslaved to your own self-righteousness.

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« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2018, 03:22:54 PM »

Even if it was consensual it would still be degenerate.

There is nothing degenerate about sexual relations within a church-recognized marriage.

Sex slavery and BDSM are not normal sexual relations.
What you allow yourself as "normal sexual relations" might just be seen as a form of sex slavery by someone else.  This guy had a contract, you have "normal sexual relations".  

The holier you get, the more you become enslaved to your own self-righteousness.

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Yeah Tony... disagree with me, who sees something like a strict, self-determined interpretation of Biblical sexual morality as potentially harmful to a relationship and to ones view of sex in general...

And agree with the homophobe.

This is a pattern with you.


(Let me guess, you'll respond to say something snotty and that just cuz you disagree with the confusing non-understandable thing I said doesn't mean you agree with the homophobe...

Yeah... and just because I said what I said doesn't mean I think sexual slavery or physically harmful BDSM is a form of healthy sexual activity)
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« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2018, 03:25:25 PM »

Is it a phobia if there is something to be scared of?
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« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2018, 03:28:19 PM »

Is it a phobia if there is something to be scared of?
Care to elaborate?
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« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2018, 03:30:16 PM »

Now, I'm not saying that BDSM should be illegal, I'm just saying thatif a man makes a woman his sex slave he probably doesn't respect her very much.
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« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2018, 03:39:46 PM »

Now, I'm not saying that BDSM should be illegal, I'm just saying thatif a man makes a woman his sex slave he probably doesn't respect her very much.

Or he actually respects her so much because he knows exactly what she most desires.
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« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2018, 03:42:52 PM »

Now, I'm not saying that BDSM should be illegal, I'm just saying thatif a man makes a woman his sex slave he probably doesn't respect her very much.

Or he actually respects her so much because he knows exactly what she most desires.

But don't you think that desiring to be a slave is a little dysfunctional?  I don't think he should encourage those desires.
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« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2018, 03:50:43 PM »

Now, I'm not saying that BDSM should be illegal, I'm just saying thatif a man makes a woman his sex slave he probably doesn't respect her very much.

Or he actually respects her so much because he knows exactly what she most desires.

But don't you think that desiring to be a slave is a little dysfunctional?  I don't think he should encourage those desires.

Do you think I'm dysfunctional?
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« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2018, 03:57:34 PM »

The odds are well over 90% the woman wanted those things in the article to be established as rules and >50% the whole thing was primarily her idea (or at least her desire) to begin with.

But that obviously doesn't excuse him trying to force her into things she had not agreed to and be violent toward her when she refused.
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« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2018, 04:02:52 PM »

Now, I'm not saying that BDSM should be illegal, I'm just saying thatif a man makes a woman his sex slave he probably doesn't respect her very much.

Or he actually respects her so much because he knows exactly what she most desires.

But don't you think that desiring to be a slave is a little dysfunctional?  I don't think he should encourage those desires.

Do you think I'm dysfunctional?

I don't really know much about you.
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« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2018, 04:42:08 PM »

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« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2018, 05:03:47 PM »

I thought that people would appreciate me criticizing a Republican.
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« Reply #37 on: April 05, 2018, 05:27:51 PM »

Sexual sadism is evil even if it is legal. This man deserves to be drummed out of the political world.
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« Reply #38 on: April 05, 2018, 06:02:45 PM »

“What people do is their own business. Except all these things.”
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« Reply #39 on: April 05, 2018, 06:18:38 PM »

This thread got weird.
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« Reply #40 on: April 05, 2018, 06:39:18 PM »

Even if it was consensual it would still be degenerate.

There is nothing degenerate about sexual relations within a church-recognized marriage.

Sex slavery and BDSM are not normal sexual relations.
God, if I was a social conservative like you I'd probably be having sex with a skinny blonde woman in the missionary position - with the lights out - for the sole purpose of procreation.
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« Reply #41 on: April 05, 2018, 08:10:24 PM »

Even if it was consensual it would still be degenerate.

There is nothing degenerate about sexual relations within a church-recognized marriage.

Sex slavery and BDSM are not normal sexual relations.
God, if I was a social conservative like you I'd probably be having sex with a skinny blonde woman in the missionary position - with the lights out - for the sole purpose of procreation.

Ridiculous. Why would you be having sex in the first place?
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« Reply #42 on: April 05, 2018, 08:17:39 PM »

More relevant than this absurd unenforceable "contract," is what he actually did to her in carrying out its "terms." In the gay community, some guys are into bondage, and sometimes even insist upon it. Odd, but that is the way it is. But yeah, just on the existence of the "contract" alone, I would fire his ass myself.

BDSM contracts like this aren't meant to be legally binding. Their purpose is part symbolic and part setting expectations that both parties consent to. The issue here is the woman was obviously coerced and it wasn't consensual.

The woman probably signed the "contract" agreeing to (almost certainly wanting to) do those things but at some point he crossed the line or she changed her mind in which case the "contract" is meaningless and he coerced her. Which makes him scum obviously.

I have to say, I never anticipated that I’d come back to see BRTD giving Torie lessons in “contract” law.
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« Reply #43 on: April 05, 2018, 08:28:01 PM »

More relevant than this absurd unenforceable "contract," is what he actually did to her in carrying out its "terms." In the gay community, some guys are into bondage, and sometimes even insist upon it. Odd, but that is the way it is. But yeah, just on the existence of the "contract" alone, I would fire his ass myself.

BDSM contracts like this aren't meant to be legally binding. Their purpose is part symbolic and part setting expectations that both parties consent to. The issue here is the woman was obviously coerced and it wasn't consensual.

The woman probably signed the "contract" agreeing to (almost certainly wanting to) do those things but at some point he crossed the line or she changed her mind in which case the "contract" is meaningless and he coerced her. Which makes him scum obviously.

I have to say, I never anticipated that I’d come back to see BRTD giving Torie lessons in “contract” law.

...I specifically said the contract is not legally binding.
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« Reply #44 on: April 05, 2018, 08:29:02 PM »

More relevant than this absurd unenforceable "contract," is what he actually did to her in carrying out its "terms." In the gay community, some guys are into bondage, and sometimes even insist upon it. Odd, but that is the way it is. But yeah, just on the existence of the "contract" alone, I would fire his ass myself.

BDSM contracts like this aren't meant to be legally binding. Their purpose is part symbolic and part setting expectations that both parties consent to. The issue here is the woman was obviously coerced and it wasn't consensual.

The woman probably signed the "contract" agreeing to (almost certainly wanting to) do those things but at some point he crossed the line or she changed her mind in which case the "contract" is meaningless and he coerced her. Which makes him scum obviously.

I have to say, I never anticipated that I’d come back to see BRTD giving Torie lessons in “contract” law.

...I specifically said the contract is not legally binding.

I was making a joke.
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« Reply #45 on: April 05, 2018, 11:26:13 PM »

I like this thread.
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« Reply #46 on: April 06, 2018, 08:59:55 AM »

BDSM kinks are nothing wrong but let's not pretend that's what this was. It may have started out as it but actual abuse is different from a fantasy or game.

That a Republican would want to enslave a woman makes perfect sense though.
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« Reply #47 on: April 06, 2018, 11:03:05 AM »

50 Shades of Sparks.

This guy is purely pathetic. Even more pathetic are the media who pursued this.
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« Reply #48 on: April 06, 2018, 11:52:59 AM »

WTF! Things like this test my abolitionist stance on the death penalty
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« Reply #49 on: April 06, 2018, 01:26:18 PM »

Why does his party affiliation matter? If he was a Democrat I'd still call him scum and I doubt anyone would be defending him.
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