Should the ACLU refer to its supporters as 'First Amendment voters'?

[136or142]

I can just imagine how conservative heads would explode: "How dare the ACLU claim to have the only interpretation of the First Amendment!"

Yet, the NRA refers to its supporters as 'Second Amendment voters' and nobody, including those in the so-called Liberal media, seems to make an issue of it.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

The far-left would have far more issue with this than the far-right.

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There's also the 4th amendment, which no one in power seems to have ever heard of.

[ChinaSoc]

They can do that but they will always be the guys who defend nazis to me.

[WritOfCertiorari]

They can do that but they will always be the guys who defend nazis to me.

The only Nazis who are at all relevant in this world are in charge of China and N. Korea. The only one defending them on these forums is you. Begone.

[ChinaSoc]

They can do that but they will always be the guys who defend nazis to me.

The only Nazis who are at all relevant in this world are in charge of China and N. Korea. The only one defending them on these forums is you. Begone.

Marxism-Leninism is nazism, typical conservative.

Lots of Chinese/DPRK bombs dropping at the heads of brown people in the Middle East, oh wait, this is the promoter of freedom and democracy (more like promoter of jihadism) the United States.

The closest things to a nazi government actually receive lots of money from the US: Saudi Arabia, Israel and Ukraine. China and  DPRK are dictatorships of the proletariat just like Marx conceived, the complete opposite of nazism.

[JA]

They can do that but they will always be the guys who defend nazis to me.

The only Nazis who are at all relevant in this world are in charge of China and N. Korea. The only one defending them on these forums is you. Begone.

Marxism-Leninism is nazism, typical conservative.

Lots of Chinese/DPRK bombs dropping at the heads of brown people in the Middle East, oh wait, this is the promoter of freedom and democracy (more like promoter of jihadism) the United States.

The closest things to a nazi government actually receive lots of money from the US: Saudi Arabia, Israel and Ukraine.

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[WritOfCertiorari]

They can do that but they will always be the guys who defend nazis to me.

The only Nazis who are at all relevant in this world are in charge of China and N. Korea. The only one defending them on these forums is you. Begone.

The closest things to a nazi government actually receive lots of money from the US: Saudi Arabia, Israel and Ukraine. China and  DPRK are dictatorships of the proletariat just like Marx conceived, the complete opposite of nazism.

To quote a famous Michigan fascist: LOLOLOLOLOLOL'

Also, I'm not a conservative. I'm an American liberal. It's April Fools' Day, so I have a Republican icon.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

No.  Whether ACLU decides to take a pro-1st Amendment position on any issue is basically a coin toss.

[Blue3]

People never think of the possibilities of applying the 3rd Amendment to end surveillance (no stationing of government agents on private property)

[Cashew]

China and  DPRK are dictatorships of the proletariat just like Marx conceived, the complete opposite of nazism.

The tenth of the "Ten Principles for the Establishment of a Monolithic Ideological System":

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I never knew being a socialist meant defending hereditary sucession!

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No.  Whether ACLU decides to take a pro-1st Amendment position on any issue is basically a coin toss.

No, they've literally defended the 1st Amendment rights of neo-Nazis and Klansmen.

[Mr. Reactionary]

No.  Whether ACLU decides to take a pro-1st Amendment position on any issue is basically a coin toss.

No, they've literally defended the 1st Amendment rights of neo-Nazis and Klansmen.

ACLU usually has a good track record on protecting speech, from Nazis to computer-generated kiddie porn, to upskirt photography and ballot selfies. I think Shua is referring to their spotty defense of the Free Exercise Clause of the 1st Amendment, which is why I am increasingly reconsidering ever trying to work for them in the future. Maybe the better analogy for this thread would be "free speech voters"

[OSR stands with Israel]

They can do that but they will always be the guys who defend nazis to me.

The only Nazis who are at all relevant in this world are in charge of China and N. Korea. The only one defending them on these forums is you. Begone.

Marxism-Leninism is nazism, typical conservative.

Lots of Chinese/DPRK bombs dropping at the heads of brown people in the Middle East, oh wait, this is the promoter of freedom and democracy (more like promoter of jihadism) the United States.

The closest things to a nazi government actually receive lots of money from the US: Saudi Arabia, Israel and Ukraine. China and  DPRK are dictatorships of the proletariat just like Marx conceived, the complete opposite of nazism.

WTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ChinaSoc]

They can do that but they will always be the guys who defend nazis to me.

The only Nazis who are at all relevant in this world are in charge of China and N. Korea. The only one defending them on these forums is you. Begone.

Marxism-Leninism is nazism, typical conservative.

Lots of Chinese/DPRK bombs dropping at the heads of brown people in the Middle East, oh wait, this is the promoter of freedom and democracy (more like promoter of jihadism) the United States.

The closest things to a nazi government actually receive lots of money from the US: Saudi Arabia, Israel and Ukraine. China and  DPRK are dictatorships of the proletariat just like Marx conceived, the complete opposite of nazism.

WTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you see the Palestinian pogroms this week? Oops, I bet western media told you they were defending themselves from terrorists.

Israel operates like apartheid but it's fine, they can vote therefore they are a beautiful democracy!!!

[OSR stands with Israel]

They can do that but they will always be the guys who defend nazis to me.

The only Nazis who are at all relevant in this world are in charge of China and N. Korea. The only one defending them on these forums is you. Begone.

Marxism-Leninism is nazism, typical conservative.

Lots of Chinese/DPRK bombs dropping at the heads of brown people in the Middle East, oh wait, this is the promoter of freedom and democracy (more like promoter of jihadism) the United States.

The closest things to a nazi government actually receive lots of money from the US: Saudi Arabia, Israel and Ukraine. China and  DPRK are dictatorships of the proletariat just like Marx conceived, the complete opposite of nazism.

WTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you see the Palestinian pogroms this week? Oops, I bet western media told you they were defending themselves from terrorists.

Israel operates like apartheid but it's fine, they can vote therefore they are a beautiful democracy!!!

Israel is a democracy and it is at least a million more times democratic than the Chinese

[ChinaSoc]

They can do that but they will always be the guys who defend nazis to me.

The only Nazis who are at all relevant in this world are in charge of China and N. Korea. The only one defending them on these forums is you. Begone.

Marxism-Leninism is nazism, typical conservative.

Lots of Chinese/DPRK bombs dropping at the heads of brown people in the Middle East, oh wait, this is the promoter of freedom and democracy (more like promoter of jihadism) the United States.

The closest things to a nazi government actually receive lots of money from the US: Saudi Arabia, Israel and Ukraine. China and  DPRK are dictatorships of the proletariat just like Marx conceived, the complete opposite of nazism.

WTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you see the Palestinian pogroms this week? Oops, I bet western media told you they were defending themselves from terrorists.

Israel operates like apartheid but it's fine, they can vote therefore they are a beautiful democracy!!!

Israel is a democracy and it is at least a million more times democratic than the Chinese

China is a democracy who operates in a different way than what the west wants.

The chinese have a lot of power at the local level, just like cubans (last election turnout in Cuba was 93%, in the US was pathetic, under 60%, last midterm was under 40%) but the west has told people one-party states can't be democracies, they don't tolerate dictatorships of the proletariat who, despite their name, are the most democratic systems. Not a coincidence 87% of China believe their country is at the right direction, in America it has been under 50% for nearly 15 years and only government lies to boost patriotism (like Iraq) pushed it over 50%.

[OSR stands with Israel]

They can do that but they will always be the guys who defend nazis to me.

The only Nazis who are at all relevant in this world are in charge of China and N. Korea. The only one defending them on these forums is you. Begone.

Marxism-Leninism is nazism, typical conservative.

Lots of Chinese/DPRK bombs dropping at the heads of brown people in the Middle East, oh wait, this is the promoter of freedom and democracy (more like promoter of jihadism) the United States.

The closest things to a nazi government actually receive lots of money from the US: Saudi Arabia, Israel and Ukraine. China and  DPRK are dictatorships of the proletariat just like Marx conceived, the complete opposite of nazism.

WTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you see the Palestinian pogroms this week? Oops, I bet western media told you they were defending themselves from terrorists.

Israel operates like apartheid but it's fine, they can vote therefore they are a beautiful democracy!!!

Israel is a democracy and it is at least a million more times democratic than the Chinese

China is a democracy who operates in a different way than what the west wants.

The chinese have a lot of power at the local level, just like cubans (last election turnout in Cuba was 93%, in the US was pathetic, under 60%, last midterm was under 40%) but the west has told people one-party states can't be democracies, they don't tolerate dictatorships of the proletariat who, despite their name, are the most democratic systems. Not a coincidence 87% of China believe their country is at the right direction, in America it has been under 50% for nearly 15 years and only government lies to boost patriotism (like Iraq) pushed it over 50%.

What’s your opinion about  the USSR

[ChinaSoc]

They can do that but they will always be the guys who defend nazis to me.

The only Nazis who are at all relevant in this world are in charge of China and N. Korea. The only one defending them on these forums is you. Begone.

Marxism-Leninism is nazism, typical conservative.

Lots of Chinese/DPRK bombs dropping at the heads of brown people in the Middle East, oh wait, this is the promoter of freedom and democracy (more like promoter of jihadism) the United States.

The closest things to a nazi government actually receive lots of money from the US: Saudi Arabia, Israel and Ukraine. China and  DPRK are dictatorships of the proletariat just like Marx conceived, the complete opposite of nazism.

WTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you see the Palestinian pogroms this week? Oops, I bet western media told you they were defending themselves from terrorists.

Israel operates like apartheid but it's fine, they can vote therefore they are a beautiful democracy!!!

Israel is a democracy and it is at least a million more times democratic than the Chinese

China is a democracy who operates in a different way than what the west wants.

The chinese have a lot of power at the local level, just like cubans (last election turnout in Cuba was 93%, in the US was pathetic, under 60%, last midterm was under 40%) but the west has told people one-party states can't be democracies, they don't tolerate dictatorships of the proletariat who, despite their name, are the most democratic systems. Not a coincidence 87% of China believe their country is at the right direction, in America it has been under 50% for nearly 15 years and only government lies to boost patriotism (like Iraq) pushed it over 50%.

What’s your opinion about  the USSR

The same, the West had to literally create the largest military force ever (NATO) to stop it, the west has always feared socialism so they need to say it doesn't work every time when they are the ones trying to sabotage it, also, it only ceased to exist because Gorbachev was working for foreign interests who wanted to promote "democracy", in the end they got neoliberalism, drunk Yeltsin and 3 years docked from their life expectancy, and the west still asks why they love Putin so much. Putin is your creation, y'all.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

No.  Whether ACLU decides to take a pro-1st Amendment position on any issue is basically a coin toss.

No, they've literally defended the 1st Amendment rights of neo-Nazis and Klansmen.

ACLU usually has a good track record on protecting speech, from Nazis to computer-generated kiddie porn, to upskirt photography and ballot selfies. I think Shua is referring to their spotty defense of the Free Exercise Clause of the 1st Amendment, which is why I am increasingly reconsidering ever trying to work for them in the future. Maybe the better analogy for this thread would be "free speech voters"

I would consider saying someone has to photograph a gay wedding to be a matter of compelled speech.

[OSR stands with Israel]

They can do that but they will always be the guys who defend nazis to me.

The only Nazis who are at all relevant in this world are in charge of China and N. Korea. The only one defending them on these forums is you. Begone.

Marxism-Leninism is nazism, typical conservative.

Lots of Chinese/DPRK bombs dropping at the heads of brown people in the Middle East, oh wait, this is the promoter of freedom and democracy (more like promoter of jihadism) the United States.

The closest things to a nazi government actually receive lots of money from the US: Saudi Arabia, Israel and Ukraine. China and  DPRK are dictatorships of the proletariat just like Marx conceived, the complete opposite of nazism.

WTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you see the Palestinian pogroms this week? Oops, I bet western media told you they were defending themselves from terrorists.

Israel operates like apartheid but it's fine, they can vote therefore they are a beautiful democracy!!!

Israel is a democracy and it is at least a million more times democratic than the Chinese

China is a democracy who operates in a different way than what the west wants.

The chinese have a lot of power at the local level, just like cubans (last election turnout in Cuba was 93%, in the US was pathetic, under 60%, last midterm was under 40%) but the west has told people one-party states can't be democracies, they don't tolerate dictatorships of the proletariat who, despite their name, are the most democratic systems. Not a coincidence 87% of China believe their country is at the right direction, in America it has been under 50% for nearly 15 years and only government lies to boost patriotism (like Iraq) pushed it over 50%.

What’s your opinion about  the USSR

The same, the West had to literally create the largest military force ever (NATO) to stop it, the west has always feared socialism so they need to say it doesn't work every time when they are the ones trying to sabotage it, also, it only ceased to exist because Gorbachev was working for foreign interests who wanted to promote "democracy", in the end they got neoliberalism, drunk Yeltsin and 3 years docked from their life expectancy, and the west still asks why they love Putin so much. Putin is your creation, y'all.

Putin is still way way better than Stalin, Khrushchev , and Breshnev

[ChinaSoc]

They can do that but they will always be the guys who defend nazis to me.

The only Nazis who are at all relevant in this world are in charge of China and N. Korea. The only one defending them on these forums is you. Begone.

Marxism-Leninism is nazism, typical conservative.

Lots of Chinese/DPRK bombs dropping at the heads of brown people in the Middle East, oh wait, this is the promoter of freedom and democracy (more like promoter of jihadism) the United States.

The closest things to a nazi government actually receive lots of money from the US: Saudi Arabia, Israel and Ukraine. China and  DPRK are dictatorships of the proletariat just like Marx conceived, the complete opposite of nazism.

WTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you see the Palestinian pogroms this week? Oops, I bet western media told you they were defending themselves from terrorists.

Israel operates like apartheid but it's fine, they can vote therefore they are a beautiful democracy!!!

Israel is a democracy and it is at least a million more times democratic than the Chinese

China is a democracy who operates in a different way than what the west wants.

The chinese have a lot of power at the local level, just like cubans (last election turnout in Cuba was 93%, in the US was pathetic, under 60%, last midterm was under 40%) but the west has told people one-party states can't be democracies, they don't tolerate dictatorships of the proletariat who, despite their name, are the most democratic systems. Not a coincidence 87% of China believe their country is at the right direction, in America it has been under 50% for nearly 15 years and only government lies to boost patriotism (like Iraq) pushed it over 50%.

What’s your opinion about  the USSR

The same, the West had to literally create the largest military force ever (NATO) to stop it, the west has always feared socialism so they need to say it doesn't work every time when they are the ones trying to sabotage it, also, it only ceased to exist because Gorbachev was working for foreign interests who wanted to promote "democracy", in the end they got neoliberalism, drunk Yeltsin and 3 years docked from their life expectancy, and the west still asks why they love Putin so much. Putin is your creation, y'all.

Putin is still way way better than Stalin, Khrushchev , and Breshnev

He is a better leader than the last ones the USSR had but Stalin and Lenin are far ahead of him, the USSR had to fight 27 different countries to get established including an alliance of the largest imperialist powers of the time coming off a devastating war. And Stalin is the greatest russian leader of all time, turned the USSR into an industrial powerhouse and stopped the nazis imperial ambitions, resisting offensives like

Stalin, Mao and Tito did more than all the american and western european leaders combined to defeat nazi-fascism, much more than the so called heroes Franklin "japanese internment" Roosevelt and Winston "indians are beastly people" Churchill, numbers don't lie

[WritOfCertiorari]

You realize that most of the deaths in China were from the old ROC right? The communists in China were just one faction during WW2. Also, nobody said that the Soviets didn’t do a lot, probably most of the work against the Nazis. However, we’re saying Stalin wasn’t that great either.

Also notice how you mentioned Japanese internship camps but not the Gulags.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Imagine how much better the Soviet Union could have been situated in World War II had they not undergone a frenzied, paranoid massacre of their best military and administrative minds, or had Stalin not arrogantly dismissed the multiple warning signs of a German attack.

[136or142]

You realize that most of the deaths in China were from the old ROC right? The communists in China were just one faction during WW2. Also, nobody said that the Soviets didn’t do a lot, probably most of the work against the Nazis. However, we’re saying Stalin wasn’t that great either.

Also notice how you mentioned Japanese internship camps but not the Gulags.

The Communists largely stayed out of World War II to let the Chinese Nationalist forces and the Japanese destroy each other.

I went to a public discussion organized by university communists to mark the 100th anniversary of the Communist (Bolshevik) Revolution in Russia.  What I found most interesting, aside from how important it is that young people these days be taught the history of the disasters of centralized planning, is the similarities between Communists and the idiot Trump supporters in that everything negative regarding their movements/views is 'fake news.'  For the Communists it's 'Don't believe what you read in western imperialist propaganda.'  

The discussion got as tiring for me to listen to as quickly as listening to a Trump speech does.