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Kringla Heimsins
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« on: March 24, 2018, 03:24:49 PM »
I know she's very unlikely to win, but how much can she impact the race?
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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2018, 03:31:59 PM »
what is with these myths that one, chelsea manning can even hypothetically win, and two, Cardin is a moderate?
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2018, 03:45:30 PM »
Quote from: Representative-Elect politicalmasta73 on March 24, 2018, 03:31:59 PM
what is with these myths that one, chelsea manning can even hypothetically win, and two, Cardin is a moderate?

Well first, I didn't say that, and second, Cardin is one of the only 4 Democrats that opposed the Iran deal.
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2018, 03:57:25 PM »
No, she's not Marie Newman, Cynthia Nixon, or even Brianna Wu. Cardin will either ignore her, or use her as a platform for a Sister Souljah moment against the radical Russia-sympathizer left. If anything, she'll push him to the right or at least let him embrace his centrist leanings.
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2018, 05:11:01 PM »
No, they are not a credible candidate.
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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2018, 05:58:41 PM »
Quote from: Kringla Heimsins on March 24, 2018, 03:45:30 PM
Quote from: Representative-Elect politicalmasta73 on March 24, 2018, 03:31:59 PM
what is with these myths that one, chelsea manning can even hypothetically win, and two, Cardin is a moderate?

Well first, I didn't say that, and second, Cardin is one of the only 4 Democrats that opposed the Iran deal.

So by that logic, Chuck Schumer is a moderate. (I know you’ll probably say yes since that’s what you implied but still)

Voting against the Iran Deal does not make a Democrat “moderate”
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2018, 11:38:32 PM »
LOL.
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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2018, 12:21:28 AM »
Quote from: The Saint on March 24, 2018, 05:58:41 PM
Quote from: Kringla Heimsins on March 24, 2018, 03:45:30 PM
Quote from: Representative-Elect politicalmasta73 on March 24, 2018, 03:31:59 PM
what is with these myths that one, chelsea manning can even hypothetically win, and two, Cardin is a moderate?

Well first, I didn't say that, and second, Cardin is one of the only 4 Democrats that opposed the Iran deal.

So by that logic, Chuck Schumer is a moderate. (I know you’ll probably say yes since that’s what you implied but still)

Voting against the Iran Deal does not make a Democrat “moderate”

These people lack logic, they think Pelosi is a centrist.
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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2018, 01:19:09 AM »
Quote from: Representative-Elect politicalmasta73 on March 24, 2018, 03:31:59 PM
what is with these myths that one, chelsea manning can even hypothetically win, and two, Cardin is a moderate?

You're right, he's not a moderate. He's decidedly right-wing.
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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2018, 07:21:15 AM »
Quote from: A Strange Reflection on March 25, 2018, 01:19:09 AM
Quote from: Representative-Elect politicalmasta73 on March 24, 2018, 03:31:59 PM
what is with these myths that one, chelsea manning can even hypothetically win, and two, Cardin is a moderate?

You're right, he's not a moderate. He's decidedly right-wing.

When is Cardin putting you into a gulag again?
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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2018, 09:09:51 AM »
Quote from: A Strange Reflection on March 25, 2018, 01:19:09 AM
Quote from: Representative-Elect politicalmasta73 on March 24, 2018, 03:31:59 PM
what is with these myths that one, chelsea manning can even hypothetically win, and two, Cardin is a moderate?

You're right, he's not a moderate. He's decidedly right-wing.

Lemme guess, Bernie Sanders would be a member of the Conservative Party in the UK.
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« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2018, 09:21:13 AM »
Quote from: A Strange Reflection on March 25, 2018, 01:19:09 AM
Quote from: Representative-Elect politicalmasta73 on March 24, 2018, 03:31:59 PM
what is with these myths that one, chelsea manning can even hypothetically win, and two, Cardin is a moderate?

You're right, he's not a moderate. He's decidedly right-wing.
Then Bernie is decidedly right wing, he has a more conservative voting record.
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« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2018, 04:30:29 PM »
Quote from: Representative-Elect politicalmasta73 on March 25, 2018, 09:21:13 AM
Quote from: A Strange Reflection on March 25, 2018, 01:19:09 AM
Quote from: Representative-Elect politicalmasta73 on March 24, 2018, 03:31:59 PM
what is with these myths that one, chelsea manning can even hypothetically win, and two, Cardin is a moderate?

You're right, he's not a moderate. He's decidedly right-wing.
Then Bernie is decidedly right wing, he has a more conservative voting record.

hahahahah what
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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2018, 04:34:05 PM »
Quote from: Representative-Elect politicalmasta73 on March 25, 2018, 09:21:13 AM
Quote from: A Strange Reflection on March 25, 2018, 01:19:09 AM
Quote from: Representative-Elect politicalmasta73 on March 24, 2018, 03:31:59 PM
what is with these myths that one, chelsea manning can even hypothetically win, and two, Cardin is a moderate?

You're right, he's not a moderate. He's decidedly right-wing.
Then Bernie is decidedly right wing, he has a more conservative voting record.

Unless you count voting against stuff like wiretapping conservative, no, Bernie does not have a more conservative voting record. Bernie supports medicare for all, free college, and a $15 min wage. Ben Cardin does not support those things (could be wrong on the $15 wage bit though).
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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2018, 04:40:02 PM »
Quote from: THIS MACHINE CRUSHES REGRESSIVES on March 24, 2018, 03:57:25 PM
No, she's not Marie Newman, Cynthia Nixon, or even Brianna Wu. Cardin will either ignore her, or use her as a platform for a Sister Souljah moment against the radical Russia-sympathizer left. If anything, she'll push him to the right or at least let him embrace his centrist leanings.

I appreciate the audacity of trying to slip Brianna Wu in here as a "left wing challenger."
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« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2018, 04:58:21 PM »
I’d forgotten Chelsea Manning was running TBH
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« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2018, 05:03:23 PM »
Quote from: KingSweden on March 25, 2018, 04:58:21 PM
I’d forgotten Chelsea Manning was running TBH

I wouldn't be surprised if she had forgotten it too.
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« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2018, 06:24:53 PM »
I don't think of Sen. Cardin as a pushover, so no.
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« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2018, 06:32:34 PM »
I really don't get the hate for Cardin. He's just a fairly harmless, mainstream, forgettable, old Democratic Senator to me.
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« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2018, 06:34:16 PM »
Quote from: Progressive Pessimist on March 25, 2018, 06:32:34 PM
I really don't get the hate for Cardin. He's just a fairly harmless, mainstream, forgettable, old Democratic Senator to me.

Everybody who refuses to kiss Sanders's ring is a corporate fascist according to the bros.
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« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2018, 07:08:30 PM »
Quote from: Progressive Pessimist on March 25, 2018, 06:32:34 PM
I really don't get the hate for Cardin. He's just a fairly harmless, mainstream, forgettable, old Democratic Senator to me.
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« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2018, 07:28:41 PM »
Quote from: Bagel23 on March 25, 2018, 07:08:30 PM
Quote from: Progressive Pessimist on March 25, 2018, 06:32:34 PM
I really don't get the hate for Cardin. He's just a fairly harmless, mainstream, forgettable, old Democratic Senator to me.
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« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2018, 07:54:51 PM »
Quote from: Shameless Bernie Hack on March 25, 2018, 04:40:02 PM
Quote from: THIS MACHINE CRUSHES REGRESSIVES on March 24, 2018, 03:57:25 PM
No, she's not Marie Newman, Cynthia Nixon, or even Brianna Wu. Cardin will either ignore her, or use her as a platform for a Sister Souljah moment against the radical Russia-sympathizer left. If anything, she'll push him to the right or at least let him embrace his centrist leanings.

I appreciate the audacity of trying to slip Brianna Wu in here as a "left wing challenger."

...She's not? She's constantly coming up with random far-left policies that have no basis in reality.

She's not a good one (and neither is Manning) but she's certainly styling herself as a progressive.
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« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2018, 07:55:34 PM »
Quote from: Progressive Pessimist on March 25, 2018, 06:32:34 PM
I really don't get the hate for Cardin. He's just a fairly harmless, mainstream, forgettable, old Democratic Senator to me.

90% is his refusal to rubber-stamp All Holy High's Iran deal.
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« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2018, 09:16:10 PM »
Quote from: THIS MACHINE CRUSHES REGRESSIVES on March 25, 2018, 07:55:34 PM
Quote from: Progressive Pessimist on March 25, 2018, 06:32:34 PM
I really don't get the hate for Cardin. He's just a fairly harmless, mainstream, forgettable, old Democratic Senator to me.

90% is his refusal to rubber-stamp All Holy High's Iran deal.

Err...the Iran deal was one of the great foreign policy successes of the Obama administration.  Just sayin'  But obviously opposing it doesn't make one right-wing by any means.
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