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« Reply #350 on: March 10, 2019, 04:33:31 PM »

I'm wondering if whoever wins the Runoff will be a 1-termer or 2-termer based on age ?
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« Reply #351 on: March 10, 2019, 04:57:48 PM »

I'm wondering if whoever wins the Runoff will be a 1-termer or 2-termer based on age ?

I’ve heard a lot of discussion that Preckwinkle could be a one-term we because of age. She had signaled that she could be close to retirement before Rahm announced he wouldn’t run again. Many view this as her last term as President if she loses in April.

For Lightfoot, she has proposed a two-term limit for the mayor, so she’d have to make a decision were she in a position of running or not after two terms. Age isn’t as big of a factor - she’s a lot younger.
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« Reply #352 on: March 11, 2019, 09:58:06 AM »

Another notable endorsement for Lightfoot: progressive State Rep. Kelly Cassidy (Edgewater, Rogers Park)

Cassidy has been a tacit Madigan opponent and is known around here for her work on cannabis legalization and criminal justice reform.
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« Reply #353 on: March 11, 2019, 10:35:13 AM »

So, is there any particular reason why Sposato and Napolitano are backing Lightfoot? Are they just trying to get behind the likely winner so that they can form a good working relationship with her?
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« Reply #354 on: March 11, 2019, 10:57:22 AM »

So, is there any particular reason why Sposato and Napolitano are backing Lightfoot? Are they just trying to get behind the likely winner so that they can form a good working relationship with her?
Sposato and Napolitano would endorse Satan if IAFF Local 2 did too
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« Reply #355 on: March 11, 2019, 11:12:40 AM »

So, is there any particular reason why Sposato and Napolitano are backing Lightfoot? Are they just trying to get behind the likely winner so that they can form a good working relationship with her?
Sposato and Napolitano would endorse Satan if IAFF Local 2 did too

Yeah, it’s because the Firefighters union is, which they are a part of.

Also, tbh, I expect Lightfoot to do well in their areas, WWC with a strong police/fire presence. This has little to do with what Lori actually stands for and everything to do with their long-standing dislike of Toni. Turnout will probably be low there, though.
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« Reply #356 on: March 12, 2019, 06:01:19 PM »

Painters District Council 14: Mendoza --> Preckwinkle
Plumbers Local 130: Daley --> Lightfoot
Personal PAC (abortions rights group): No endorsement --> Preckwinkle
Paul Vallas: Vallas --> Lightfoot

does not help the narrative of Lightfoot as the more progressive candidate
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« Reply #357 on: March 13, 2019, 09:32:53 AM »

Painters District Council 14: Mendoza --> Preckwinkle
Plumbers Local 130: Daley --> Lightfoot
Personal PAC (abortions rights group): No endorsement --> Preckwinkle
Paul Vallas: Vallas --> Lightfoot

does not help the narrative of Lightfoot as the more progressive candidate

Is this purporting that the painters are progressive because they endorsed Susana Mendoza?

Lightfoot has a list of progressive endorsers as you know: David Orr, Scott Waguespack, Kelly Cassidy, Litesa Wallace, Robin Kelly, Democracy for America
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« Reply #358 on: March 13, 2019, 12:51:17 PM »
« Edited: March 13, 2019, 01:03:44 PM by sjoyce »

Is this purporting that the painters are progressive because they endorsed Susana Mendoza?

Don't be a dummy. The plumbers union (and their close relationship with the Daleys) is the reason Chicago has more lead service lines than any other city in the country. Paul Vallas is Paul Vallas. Nothing to do with the painters, they're fairly benign.

Anyway, today Lightfoot said she will retain police superintendent Eddie Johnson, saying she refuses to "pander to the crowds that want him gone.” "The crowds" want Johnson gone because of his history of justifying police misconduct. She also said she opposes the proposal for a new police academy (the $95 million contract just passed City Council today) because she wants a much larger police academy similar to NYC's $750 million center, which would also be used to train state-level officers. She also said she wants more training locations, proposing to turn 38 of the schools Rahm closed into police training facilities.
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« Reply #359 on: March 13, 2019, 01:59:00 PM »

Is this purporting that the painters are progressive because they endorsed Susana Mendoza?

Don't be a dummy. The plumbers union (and their close relationship with the Daleys) is the reason Chicago has more lead service lines than any other city in the country. Paul Vallas is Paul Vallas. Nothing to do with the painters, they're fairly benign.

Anyway, today Lightfoot said she will retain police superintendent Eddie Johnson, saying she refuses to "pander to the crowds that want him gone.” "The crowds" want Johnson gone because of his history of justifying police misconduct. She also said she opposes the proposal for a new police academy (the $95 million contract just passed City Council today) because she wants a much larger police academy similar to NYC's $750 million center, which would also be used to train state-level officers. She also said she wants more training locations, proposing to turn 38 of the schools Rahm closed into police training facilities.

Preckwinkle said at the same forum that she is not opposed to a new training facility and would also focus on re-purposing current buildings.
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« Reply #360 on: March 14, 2019, 05:52:19 PM »

LIUNA endorses Lightfoot

https://twitter.com/liunachicago/status/1106284568393453569?s=21
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« Reply #361 on: March 14, 2019, 06:08:57 PM »

Gery Chico for Lightfoot, making it even more obvious why the progressive unions went with Preckwinkle — and giving her the endorsement, by proxy, of Ed Burke.

Teamsters Joint Council 25 for Preckwinkle today. She also spent the day on the picket line at the Chicago Symphony Orchestra, where the Chicago Federation of Musicians is currently on strike.
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« Reply #362 on: March 14, 2019, 06:29:07 PM »

Is this purporting that the painters are progressive because they endorsed Susana Mendoza?

Don't be a dummy. The plumbers union (and their close relationship with the Daleys) is the reason Chicago has more lead service lines than any other city in the country. Paul Vallas is Paul Vallas. Nothing to do with the painters, they're fairly benign.

Anyway, today Lightfoot said she will retain police superintendent Eddie Johnson, saying she refuses to "pander to the crowds that want him gone.” "The crowds" want Johnson gone because of his history of justifying police misconduct. She also said she opposes the proposal for a new police academy (the $95 million contract just passed City Council today) because she wants a much larger police academy similar to NYC's $750 million center, which would also be used to train state-level officers. She also said she wants more training locations, proposing to turn 38 of the schools Rahm closed into police training facilities.

Wow, love this! 
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« Reply #363 on: March 14, 2019, 06:29:29 PM »

Lightfoot will govern just as Rahm has contrary to her "anti-machine" posturing.

That's the hope.  Enough with the pandering.
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« Reply #364 on: March 14, 2019, 09:45:42 PM »

Gery Chico for Lightfoot, making it even more obvious why the progressive unions went with Preckwinkle — and giving her the endorsement, by proxy, of Ed Burke.

Teamsters Joint Council 25 for Preckwinkle today. She also spent the day on the picket line at the Chicago Symphony Orchestra, where the Chicago Federation of Musicians is currently on strike.

Good one. Burke didn’t raise $116,000 for Lightfoot.
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« Reply #365 on: March 14, 2019, 10:13:21 PM »

Good one. Burke didn’t raise $116,000 for Lightfoot.

Burke endorsed Chico, Chico endorsed Lightfoot. Not hard to follow -- and if you can't see that she's getting the support of every single conservative element in the city, well...
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« Reply #366 on: March 14, 2019, 10:19:13 PM »

This race got muddied real fast. Lightfoot got busted for accepting cash from a‘Dark Money’ group. Who is the actual progressive in this race?
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« Reply #367 on: March 14, 2019, 10:22:37 PM »

Is this purporting that the painters are progressive because they endorsed Susana Mendoza?

Don't be a dummy. The plumbers union (and their close relationship with the Daleys) is the reason Chicago has more lead service lines than any other city in the country. Paul Vallas is Paul Vallas. Nothing to do with the painters, they're fairly benign.

Anyway, today Lightfoot said she will retain police superintendent Eddie Johnson, saying she refuses to "pander to the crowds that want him gone.” "The crowds" want Johnson gone because of his history of justifying police misconduct. She also said she opposes the proposal for a new police academy (the $95 million contract just passed City Council today) because she wants a much larger police academy similar to NYC's $750 million center, which would also be used to train state-level officers. She also said she wants more training locations, proposing to turn 38 of the schools Rahm closed into police training facilities.

Wow, love this! 
Why are you a Democrat again? I would expect you’d be more at home with the blue fascists that protect you position than be a Democrat, at least nationally?
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« Reply #368 on: March 14, 2019, 11:02:44 PM »

Good one. Burke didn’t raise $116,000 for Lightfoot.

Burke endorsed Chico, Chico endorsed Lightfoot. Not hard to follow -- and if you can't see that she's getting the support of every single conservative element in the city, well...

The idea that Burke has anything to do with this is really a stretch. Trying to forget Toni’s coziness with Burke and Berrios?

A much more distant connection than Burke endorsing Preckwinkle for her prior (current) office and raising $116,000 for her, wouldn’t you say?

I’ve actually seen Preckwinkle folks defending Berrios over the last several weeks as well, which tells you all you need to know about whether any lessons have been learned.
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« Reply #369 on: March 14, 2019, 11:09:03 PM »

This race got muddied real fast. Lightfoot got busted for accepting cash from a‘Dark Money’ group. Who is the actual progressive in this race?

This is a manufactured issue. Preckwinkle would’ve taken every dime of it if it had gone her way. It says nothing about Lightfoot’s stance on money in politics, not that she’ll be in a position to make decisions on the laws around that anyway.

It’s ironic that the Preckwinkle folks would be critical of it, too, considering she has raked in millions upon millions more in high dollar contributions than Lightfoot has.
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« Reply #370 on: March 14, 2019, 11:14:01 PM »

This race got muddied real fast. Lightfoot got busted for accepting cash from a‘Dark Money’ group. Who is the actual progressive in this race?

It won't end up mattering. Chicago swallows aspiring politicians and transforms them into machine or parochial tools. I suspect whoever who wins will become a 'establishment tool' by next mayoral election.
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« Reply #371 on: March 14, 2019, 11:21:58 PM »

This race got muddied real fast. Lightfoot got busted for accepting cash from a‘Dark Money’ group. Who is the actual progressive in this race?

This is a manufactured issue. Preckwinkle would’ve taken every dime of it if it had gone her way. It says nothing about Lightfoot’s stance on money in politics, not that she’ll be in a position to make decisions on the laws around that anyway.

It’s ironic that the Preckwinkle folks would be critical of it, too, considering she has raked in millions upon millions more in high dollar contributions than Lightfoot has.
Look at it this way, if she was misleading people on this, she could be on other major planks. Just look at how she supported the continuation of a pro-cop official and the support for that police academy. I’m just saying this race has become incredibly nuanced over who is better than who.
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« Reply #372 on: March 14, 2019, 11:25:01 PM »

Yeah I’m not so sure how I feel about this race anymore.
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« Reply #373 on: March 14, 2019, 11:26:00 PM »

Is this purporting that the painters are progressive because they endorsed Susana Mendoza?

Don't be a dummy. The plumbers union (and their close relationship with the Daleys) is the reason Chicago has more lead service lines than any other city in the country. Paul Vallas is Paul Vallas. Nothing to do with the painters, they're fairly benign.

Anyway, today Lightfoot said she will retain police superintendent Eddie Johnson, saying she refuses to "pander to the crowds that want him gone.” "The crowds" want Johnson gone because of his history of justifying police misconduct. She also said she opposes the proposal for a new police academy (the $95 million contract just passed City Council today) because she wants a much larger police academy similar to NYC's $750 million center, which would also be used to train state-level officers. She also said she wants more training locations, proposing to turn 38 of the schools Rahm closed into police training facilities.

Wow, love this! 
Why are you a Democrat again? I would expect you’d be more at home with the blue fascists that protect you position than be a Democrat, at least nationally?

I support Democrats that believe in a system of law and order, just as the majority of Chicagoans do.  The people who are actually affected be violence, and don't live in a Hyde Park bubble, take these issues seriously.  This is why Lori is now shifting and why every mayor has in the past.  Cute slogans about punishing the police can only get you so far - its not your city.
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« Reply #374 on: March 14, 2019, 11:41:01 PM »

This race got muddied real fast. Lightfoot got busted for accepting cash from a‘Dark Money’ group. Who is the actual progressive in this race?

This is a manufactured issue. Preckwinkle would’ve taken every dime of it if it had gone her way. It says nothing about Lightfoot’s stance on money in politics, not that she’ll be in a position to make decisions on the laws around that anyway.

It’s ironic that the Preckwinkle folks would be critical of it, too, considering she has raked in millions upon millions more in high dollar contributions than Lightfoot has.
Look at it this way, if she was misleading people on this, she could be on other major planks. Just look at how she supported the continuation of a pro-cop official and the support for that police academy. I’m just saying this race has become incredibly nuanced over who is better than who.

Critiquing her on the comments regarding the cop academy is fair and I share your concern.

Critiquing her on the PAC contribution is a nothing-burger. She didn’t mislead on anything. She never pledged not to take this kind of money. The PAC is led by a group of progressive attorneys that have been involved in reformist liberal politics. Huge non-story manufactured by the Preckwinkle camp to try to paint her as accepting Koch money or something.
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