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« on: March 19, 2018, 08:25:45 PM »

https://www.facebook.com/ErinStewartCT/videos/2414182635274560/

Starts about 4 minutes in. It seriously sounds like an essay you'd write in high school. Not to mention there's no theme or rhetorical devices, and she has that generic reading voice that people without any experience in public speaking default to when they're scared.

Not even discussing her political prospects here, just holy crap is she bad at rhetoric.
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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2018, 08:31:36 PM »

I love her! Erin Stewart for Governor!

Can't wait for her to flip the bird to you.
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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2018, 02:27:02 AM »

She is overrated. I watched her interview on Face of the State and she said she didn't know if she was for an assault weapons ban. I think she is playing both sides. I do think her age might hurt her because people in CT are pretentious especially in Fairfield County. It won't surprise me if she is using this to get her name out there so she can challenge Esty in 2020.
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2018, 04:56:17 AM »

Haven't watched the video but if this description is accurate, this makes me feel better. I was paranoid she was the new Charlie Baker.
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2018, 05:49:47 AM »

Haven't watched the video but if this description is accurate, this makes me feel better. I was paranoid she was the new Charlie Baker.

She is one from about 10 declared Republican candidates. Someone else from these 10 may be "the new Charles Baker" too..
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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2018, 06:59:58 AM »

Haven't watched the video but if this description is accurate, this makes me feel better. I was paranoid she was the new Charlie Baker.

She is one from about 10 declared Republican candidates. Someone else from these 10 may be "the new Charles Baker" too..

True enough. But her biography in particular scared me a little.
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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2018, 07:20:34 AM »

Haven't watched the video but if this description is accurate, this makes me feel better. I was paranoid she was the new Charlie Baker.

She is one from about 10 declared Republican candidates. Someone else from these 10 may be "the new Charles Baker" too..

True enough. But her biography in particular scared me a little.

Her biography is more impressive than she is. Her father was mayor of New Britain from 2003-2011. My friends who live in New Britain don’t think she would have been elected otherwise.
Plus her former campaign manager is the current CT GOP Chairman who refuses to criticize Trumps Charlottesville comments and is buddies with Carl Higbie. The fact she couldn’t say in a sit down interview right after Parkland whether or not she is for an assault weapon ban shows how unprepared she is.
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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2018, 09:16:53 AM »

That’s irrelevant. What matters is that she’s a strong independent woman™.

You know she's a Republican, right?
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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2018, 10:47:57 AM »
« Edited: March 20, 2018, 10:51:12 AM by smoltchanov »

That’s irrelevant. What matters is that she’s a strong independent woman™.

You know she's a Republican, right?

Connecticut Republican. Generally they are much more sane, then their counterparts in many other states. I was surprised, how few really conservative Republicans are in Connecticut legislature - substantially less, then, say, in Maine or (now, after some moderates retired, and some - went to work in Scott's administration) even in Vermont (no comparison at all with most mid-western or southern states, where percentage is, usually, 90+). And i can't remember even one really hard-right Republican elected in Connecticut for high office (Senate, House, Governor) in about 30 years. At most - moderate conservatives, much more frequently - centrists, sometimes - even very cautious liberals.
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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2018, 11:28:07 AM »

That’s irrelevant. What matters is that she’s a strong independent woman™.

You know she's a Republican, right?

Connecticut Republican. Generally they are much more sane, then their counterparts in many other states. I was surprised, how few really conservative Republicans are in Connecticut legislature - substantially less, then, say, in Maine or (now, after some moderates retired, and some - went to work in Scott's administration) even in Vermont (no comparison at all with most mid-western or southern states, where percentage is, usually, 90+). And i can't remember even one really hard-right Republican elected in Connecticut for high office (Senate, House, Governor) in about 30 years. At most - moderate conservatives, much more frequently - centrists, sometimes - even very cautious liberals.

That’s not true anymore. The CT GOP social media pages link to MAGA merchandise. They were one of the first state parties to have a joint fundraising agreement with the trump campaign. Republicans in the State house are currently injecting Mitch Mcconell type politics into the Chief Justice confirmation. Only one republican state rep voted for McDonald. They aren’t a moderate party anymore.
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« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2018, 01:11:22 PM »

That’s irrelevant. What matters is that she’s a strong independent woman™.

You know she's a Republican, right?

Connecticut Republican. Generally they are much more sane, then their counterparts in many other states. I was surprised, how few really conservative Republicans are in Connecticut legislature - substantially less, then, say, in Maine or (now, after some moderates retired, and some - went to work in Scott's administration) even in Vermont (no comparison at all with most mid-western or southern states, where percentage is, usually, 90+). And i can't remember even one really hard-right Republican elected in Connecticut for high office (Senate, House, Governor) in about 30 years. At most - moderate conservatives, much more frequently - centrists, sometimes - even very cautious liberals.

That’s not true anymore. The CT GOP social media pages link to MAGA merchandise. They were one of the first state parties to have a joint fundraising agreement with the trump campaign. Republicans in the State house are currently injecting Mitch Mcconell type politics into the Chief Justice confirmation. Only one republican state rep voted for McDonald. They aren’t a moderate party anymore.

McDonald is very liberal. So much, that 5 Democrats in state House voted against him. In such situation one couldn't expect many Republicans to vote for him. After all, even moderates among them are NOT a fiery liberals..
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« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2018, 01:20:06 PM »

Smolt - the CT GOP has gone hard right over the past few years. Malloy took their traditional spot as voice of the hedge funds, so they had to shift hard to angry racist suburbanites who hate teachers.
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« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2018, 01:32:15 PM »

Smolt - the CT GOP has gone hard right over the past few years. Malloy took their traditional spot as voice of the hedge funds, so they had to shift hard to angry racist suburbanites who hate teachers.

Of course - i am purely Internet-based. But, looking, for example, at ACU ratings of Connecticut legislature, with most Republicans being in 40-60 interval, i wouldn't say that. We shall see, who will be their candidate this year. Compare that with 80-100 ratings for Wisconsin Republicans for example. Or - Arizona's....
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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2018, 02:16:33 PM »

That’s irrelevant. What matters is that she’s a strong independent woman™.

You know she's a Republican, right?

Connecticut Republican. Generally they are much more sane, then their counterparts in many other states. I was surprised, how few really conservative Republicans are in Connecticut legislature - substantially less, then, say, in Maine or (now, after some moderates retired, and some - went to work in Scott's administration) even in Vermont (no comparison at all with most mid-western or southern states, where percentage is, usually, 90+). And i can't remember even one really hard-right Republican elected in Connecticut for high office (Senate, House, Governor) in about 30 years. At most - moderate conservatives, much more frequently - centrists, sometimes - even very cautious liberals.

That’s not true anymore. The CT GOP social media pages link to MAGA merchandise. They were one of the first state parties to have a joint fundraising agreement with the trump campaign. Republicans in the State house are currently injecting Mitch Mcconell type politics into the Chief Justice confirmation. Only one republican state rep voted for McDonald. They aren’t a moderate party anymore.

McDonald is very liberal. So much, that 5 Democrats in state House voted against him. In such situation one couldn't expect many Republicans to vote for him. After all, even moderates among them are NOT a fiery liberals..

He is an average liberal. Only 20 people voted against him last time. This is an election ploy more than anything else.
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« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2018, 02:18:10 PM »

Smolt - the CT GOP has gone hard right over the past few years. Malloy took their traditional spot as voice of the hedge funds, so they had to shift hard to angry racist suburbanites who hate teachers.

Of course - i am purely Internet-based. But, looking, for example, at ACU ratings of Connecticut legislature, with most Republicans being in 40-60 interval, i wouldn't say that. We shall see, who will be their candidate this year. Compare that with 80-100 ratings for Wisconsin Republicans for example. Or - Arizona's....

Scott Walker is the CT GOP dream. They even had him speak a few years ago. They would love a Scott Walker they could elect in CT.
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« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2018, 03:46:44 PM »

Smolt - the CT GOP has gone hard right over the past few years. Malloy took their traditional spot as voice of the hedge funds, so they had to shift hard to angry racist suburbanites who hate teachers.

Of course - i am purely Internet-based. But, looking, for example, at ACU ratings of Connecticut legislature, with most Republicans being in 40-60 interval, i wouldn't say that. We shall see, who will be their candidate this year. Compare that with 80-100 ratings for Wisconsin Republicans for example. Or - Arizona's....

Scott Walker is the CT GOP dream. They even had him speak a few years ago. They would love a Scott Walker they could elect in CT.
Yeah, it's clear that, if the CT GOP got a trifecta, they would immediately try for Right to Work (for less) among other anti-union provisos.
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« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2018, 03:57:58 PM »


This isn't gonna help her in a GOP primary.
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« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2018, 04:01:36 PM »

Smolt - the CT GOP has gone hard right over the past few years. Malloy took their traditional spot as voice of the hedge funds, so they had to shift hard to angry racist suburbanites who hate teachers.

Of course - i am purely Internet-based. But, looking, for example, at ACU ratings of Connecticut legislature, with most Republicans being in 40-60 interval, i wouldn't say that. We shall see, who will be their candidate this year. Compare that with 80-100 ratings for Wisconsin Republicans for example. Or - Arizona's....

Scott Walker is the CT GOP dream. They even had him speak a few years ago. They would love a Scott Walker they could elect in CT.
Yeah, it's clear that, if the CT GOP got a trifecta, they would immediately try for Right to Work (for less) among other anti-union provisos.
 

Exactly not sure why people don’t realize this.
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« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2018, 04:11:37 PM »

Smolt - the CT GOP has gone hard right over the past few years. Malloy took their traditional spot as voice of the hedge funds, so they had to shift hard to angry racist suburbanites who hate teachers.

Of course - i am purely Internet-based. But, looking, for example, at ACU ratings of Connecticut legislature, with most Republicans being in 40-60 interval, i wouldn't say that. We shall see, who will be their candidate this year. Compare that with 80-100 ratings for Wisconsin Republicans for example. Or - Arizona's....

Scott Walker is the CT GOP dream. They even had him speak a few years ago. They would love a Scott Walker they could elect in CT.
Yeah, it's clear that, if the CT GOP got a trifecta, they would immediately try for Right to Work (for less) among other anti-union provisos.
 

Exactly not sure why people don’t realize this.
I would actually be open to voting for Stewart, since she's aligned with unions, but I think she could cave if the GOP controlled both chambers of the legislature. Because that is a real possibility, I would support the Democratic nominee.
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« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2018, 07:24:00 PM »

Smolt - the CT GOP has gone hard right over the past few years. Malloy took their traditional spot as voice of the hedge funds, so they had to shift hard to angry racist suburbanites who hate teachers.

Of course - i am purely Internet-based. But, looking, for example, at ACU ratings of Connecticut legislature, with most Republicans being in 40-60 interval, i wouldn't say that. We shall see, who will be their candidate this year. Compare that with 80-100 ratings for Wisconsin Republicans for example. Or - Arizona's....

Scott Walker is the CT GOP dream. They even had him speak a few years ago. They would love a Scott Walker they could elect in CT.
Yeah, it's clear that, if the CT GOP got a trifecta, they would immediately try for Right to Work (for less) among other anti-union provisos.
 

Exactly not sure why people don’t realize this.
I would actually be open to voting for Stewart, since she's aligned with unions, but I think she could cave if the GOP controlled both chambers of the legislature. Because that is a real possibility, I would support the Democratic nominee.

Her former campaign manager is the current CT GOP chairman and she helped him get elected. She is very will 100% cave.
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« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2018, 11:07:38 PM »

Smolt - the CT GOP has gone hard right over the past few years. Malloy took their traditional spot as voice of the hedge funds, so they had to shift hard to angry racist suburbanites who hate teachers.

This is a bunch of dishonest crap. It’s still a very moderate party. If not, then Stewart wouldn’t be a leading candidate. Oh and keep insulting voter groups and see where it gets you, you out of touch troglodyte.
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« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2018, 12:55:34 AM »

Smolt - the CT GOP has gone hard right over the past few years. Malloy took their traditional spot as voice of the hedge funds, so they had to shift hard to angry racist suburbanites who hate teachers.

This is a bunch of dishonest crap. It’s still a very moderate party. If not, then Stewart wouldn’t be a leading candidate. Oh and keep insulting voter groups and see where it gets you, you out of touch troglodyte.

I tend to agree. IMHO - it's a Democratic party, that has gone hard left in Connecticut and many other states. So - their criteria changed, and anyone, who disagrees with them, is automatically, "hard right".... US politics is polarized to the level of complete idiocy now in both parties..
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« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2018, 03:09:31 AM »
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Smolt - the CT GOP has gone hard right over the past few years. Malloy took their traditional spot as voice of the hedge funds, so they had to shift hard to angry racist suburbanites who hate teachers.

This is a bunch of dishonest crap. It’s still a very moderate party. If not, then Stewart wouldn’t be a leading candidate. Oh and keep insulting voter groups and see where it gets you, you out of touch troglodyte.

I tend to agree. IMHO - it's a Democratic party, that has gone hard left in Connecticut and many other states. So - their criteria changed, and anyone, who disagrees with them, is automatically, "hard right".... US politics is polarized to the level of complete idiocy now in both parties..


Completely disagree not much difference between Malloy and Lowell Weicker who was a Republican Senator. While there is a big difference between Weicker and Shays and the rest of republicans who are in CT. Shays endorsed Hillary while the CT GOP are enthusiastic trump voters. Even Shays voted for the assault weapon ban had a F rating from the NRA while Erin Stewart brags how she is a gun owner and said in a sit down interview “I don’t know” what my position is on an assault weapon ban. Yes I think if you defend refuse to criticize Trumps Chartlottesville comments you are hard right which is what the CT GOP chairman did and he is Stewart’s and Herbst former campaign manager and BFFS with Herbst who is also buddies with Carl Higbie who was to racist for the Trump administration. I watched the McDonaksnhearinf and a republican state rep said to McDonald “what do you and Malloy talk about at dinner b wires work”? And kept badgering him with that question. So yeah I think it’s ridicoulous that they voted against him. I disagreed with a lot of things Shays and never thought he was far right. I currently think the CT GOP is far right because they are trying to out trump each other.  If they acted like Charlie Baker or Chris Shays it would be different.
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« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2018, 04:00:03 AM »

Smolt - the CT GOP has gone hard right over the past few years. Malloy took their traditional spot as voice of the hedge funds, so they had to shift hard to angry racist suburbanites who hate teachers.

This is a bunch of dishonest crap. It’s still a very moderate party. If not, then Stewart wouldn’t be a leading candidate. Oh and keep insulting voter groups and see where it gets you, you out of touch troglodyte.

I tend to agree. IMHO - it's a Democratic party, that has gone hard left in Connecticut and many other states. So - their criteria changed, and anyone, who disagrees with them, is automatically, "hard right".... US politics is polarized to the level of complete idiocy now in both parties..


Completely disagree not much difference between Malloy and Lowell Weicker who was a Republican Senator. While there is a big difference between Weicker and Shays and the rest of republicans who are in CT. Shays endorsed Hillary while the CT GOP are enthusiastic trump voters. Even Shays voted for the assault weapon ban had a F rating from the NRA while Erin Stewart brags how she is a gun owner and said in a sit down interview “I don’t know” what my position is on an assault weapon ban. Yes I think if you defend refuse to criticize Trumps Chartlottesville comments you are hard right which is what the CT GOP chairman did and he is Stewart’s and Herbst former campaign manager and BFFS with Herbst who is also buddies with Carl Higbie who was to racist for the Trump administration. I watched the McDonaksnhearinf and a republican state rep said to McDonald “what do you and Malloy talk about at dinner b wires work”? And kept badgering him with that question. So yeah I think it’s ridicoulous that they voted against him. I disagreed with a lot of things Shays and never thought he was far right. I currently think the CT GOP is far right because they are trying to out trump each other.  If they acted like Charlie Baker or Chris Shays it would be different.

I value your opinion, but - stick to mine. Yes, Republican party moved hard right since even decade ago. But - not uniformly, and in Connecticut - less then in many other states (i already made comparison with Wisconsin or Arizona, where Republicans really march in lockstep with Trump, and someties - even try to get ahead of him). IMHO - not so in Connecticut. Yes, state party leaders usually show loyalty to national party leader (Trump, in this case), and tend to support him, if they can. It's rather natural, isn't it? Still, i don't see Connecticut Republicans as Steve Bannon heirs apparent. And right to own and bear arms is written in Constitution, you can't overturn it by will. Some reasonable restrictions - yes (but everyone has it's own understanding of what's "reasonable", and what - no), otherwise - change Constitution (we already talked about it). While i will easily agree, that last 2-time Republican candidate for governor of Connecticut (Foley, IIRC) was more conservative then Lowell Weicker (who, BTW, was elected NOT as Republican, but 3rd party candidate), i don't see him as Bannon, Trump, or Cruz-like candidate, and still think that Republican candidate this year will not be a right-wing fundie. We will see...
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« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2018, 08:47:47 AM »

Smolt - the CT GOP has gone hard right over the past few years. Malloy took their traditional spot as voice of the hedge funds, so they had to shift hard to angry racist suburbanites who hate teachers.

This is a bunch of dishonest crap. It’s still a very moderate party. If not, then Stewart wouldn’t be a leading candidate. Oh and keep insulting voter groups and see where it gets you, you out of touch troglodyte.

I tend to agree. IMHO - it's a Democratic party, that has gone hard left in Connecticut and many other states. So - their criteria changed, and anyone, who disagrees with them, is automatically, "hard right".... US politics is polarized to the level of complete idiocy now in both parties..


Completely disagree not much difference between Malloy and Lowell Weicker who was a Republican Senator. While there is a big difference between Weicker and Shays and the rest of republicans who are in CT. Shays endorsed Hillary while the CT GOP are enthusiastic trump voters. Even Shays voted for the assault weapon ban had a F rating from the NRA while Erin Stewart brags how she is a gun owner and said in a sit down interview “I don’t know” what my position is on an assault weapon ban. Yes I think if you defend refuse to criticize Trumps Chartlottesville comments you are hard right which is what the CT GOP chairman did and he is Stewart’s and Herbst former campaign manager and BFFS with Herbst who is also buddies with Carl Higbie who was to racist for the Trump administration. I watched the McDonaksnhearinf and a republican state rep said to McDonald “what do you and Malloy talk about at dinner b wires work”? And kept badgering him with that question. So yeah I think it’s ridicoulous that they voted against him. I disagreed with a lot of things Shays and never thought he was far right. I currently think the CT GOP is far right because they are trying to out trump each other.  If they acted like Charlie Baker or Chris Shays it would be different.

I value your opinion, but - stick to mine. Yes, Republican party moved hard right since even decade ago. But - not uniformly, and in Connecticut - less then in many other states (i already made comparison with Wisconsin or Arizona, where Republicans really march in lockstep with Trump, and someties - even try to get ahead of him). IMHO - not so in Connecticut. Yes, state party leaders usually show loyalty to national party leader (Trump, in this case), and tend to support him, if they can. It's rather natural, isn't it? Still, i don't see Connecticut Republicans as Steve Bannon heirs apparent. And right to own and bear arms is written in Constitution, you can't overturn it by will. Some reasonable restrictions - yes (but everyone has it's own understanding of what's "reasonable", and what - no), otherwise - change Constitution (we already talked about it). While i will easily agree, that last 2-time Republican candidate for governor of Connecticut (Foley, IIRC) was more conservative then Lowell Weicker (who, BTW, was elected NOT as Republican, but 3rd party candidate), i don't see him as Bannon, Trump, or Cruz-like candidate, and still think that Republican candidate this year will not be a right-wing fundie. We will see...

Foley was more conservative than Rell who actually was a moderate. Again I’m not a big fan of Rell, but I’m not implying she was a far right candidate. Rowland is the one who increases funding for UCONN which is something republicans in CT want to get rid of. The reason why people who live in CT notice the difference is because the Republican Party in this state was a moderate party 20 years ago they are no longer a moderate party. You also don’t realize how toxic the republican brand is in CT. They couldn’t even beat Denise Nappier in 2014.
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