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« on: September 17, 2005, 01:06:04 AM »



Yellow-no state minimum wage
Blue-at federal level (5.15/hour)
Green-higher than 5.15
Red-lower than 5.15

It should be noted that San Francisco has $8.50. And surprise, surprise, some jurisdictions have $15 minimum wages (middle finger points at opebo).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_minimum_wages
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2005, 01:16:01 AM »

Yes, $15 should be the federal minimum, but somewhat higher may be necessary in the First World portions of the U.S.
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2005, 01:16:41 AM »

Yes, $15 should be the federal minimum, but somewhat higher may be necessary in the First World portions of the U.S.
Do you have ANY idea what a $15 minimum wage will do?
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2005, 01:19:42 AM »

Shouldn't NJ be green (or has that not taken effect yet)?

Pennsylvania looks likely to raise the minimum wage this fall.
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2005, 01:20:53 AM »

Shouldn't NJ be green (or has that not taken effect yet)?
NJ raises to 6.15 on October 1
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2005, 01:21:49 AM »

Yes, $15 should be the federal minimum, but somewhat higher may be necessary in the First World portions of the U.S.
Do you have ANY idea what a $15 minimum wage will do?

Yes - redistribute.

Of course I would back it up with a very generous welfare state to deal with the unemployment some imagine this would cause.
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2005, 01:25:01 AM »
« Edited: September 17, 2005, 01:27:58 AM by Lt. Governor Dean »

A $15 minimum wage will *gasp* make a mechanic receive *gasp* $100 an hour and a lawyer *gasp* $5,000. I can't afford that.
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2005, 01:28:42 AM »
« Edited: September 17, 2005, 01:31:10 AM by Senator Gabu »

Yes, $15 should be the federal minimum, but somewhat higher may be necessary in the First World portions of the U.S.
Do you have ANY idea what a $15 minimum wage will do?

Yes - redistribute.

Of course I would back it up with a very generous welfare state to deal with the unemployment some imagine this would cause.

If nobody is working, where will the money for the welfare state come from, and where would the products on which to spend this money come from?
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2005, 03:05:39 AM »

Is there a list of areas with higher minimum wages than the state average, like San Francisco?

What jurisdictions have $15 minimum wages?  Lord!
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2005, 03:25:19 AM »

Yes, $15 should be the federal minimum, but somewhat higher may be necessary in the First World portions of the U.S.
Do you have ANY idea what a $15 minimum wage will do?

Yes - redistribute.

Of course I would back it up with a very generous welfare state to deal with the unemployment some imagine this would cause.

If nobody is working, where will the money for the welfare state come from, and where would the products on which to spend this money come from?
It won't cause much unemployment - instead it`ll cause a hell of a lot of inflation if done in a single step. Imagine most people to not be better or worse off afterwards. Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2005, 07:59:06 AM »

What jurisdictions have $15 minimum wages?  Lord!

To my knowledge there are no jurisdictions with an across the board $15 minimum wage, rather this minimum applies to companies which the municipality contracts out to perform some public function. I have no idea where these are.

At the beginning of October, the minimum wage in the UK will increase to £5.05 for those aged over 21; £4.25 for those aged 18 to 21; And £3 for those aged 16 to 18.

£5.05 roughly correlates to $9.15.

Whilst I wouldn't claim that the presence (or not) of the minimum wage is the sole factor to effect unemployment, it should be noted that since the minimum wage  came into effect in 1999, those claiming unemployment benefit has fallen every year to date.

Provided that minimum wage increases are gradual and that ultimately the minimum wage does not ultimately threaten the viability of any well run business, then in my mind it should not have any significant impact on unemployment.
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2005, 09:37:56 AM »

Prices controls are always a bad idea.
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2005, 09:43:22 AM »

I firmly beleive in the minimum wage - but opebo's $15 per hour would be a disaster

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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2005, 09:46:39 AM »

If you believe in minimum prices for labor, why not minimum prices for other things? The economic effects are identical.
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2005, 10:06:23 AM »

If minimum wage makes a country off better, and people richer, why not jack it up to $15 an hour?  Why is opebo wrong?  Unless you believe that it isn't actually beneficial for the country...
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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2005, 10:32:17 AM »

If the federal minimum wage is $5.15, how is it possible that some states have a lower minimum wage or no minimum wage at all?

I know there are exemptions for waitors/waitresses, but disregarding those every state should at least have a minimum wage of $5.15.

In NH, we tried to raise the minimum wage earlier this year but it got voted down in the Republican-led Senate (Republicans hold 8 seat advantage in State Senate).
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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2005, 11:28:17 AM »

If the federal minimum wage is $5.15, how is it possible that some states have a lower minimum wage or no minimum wage at all?
The laws do not apply.  A state simply didn't pass a minimum wage law because federal law takes care of it.  It doesn't mean you can pay someone $2 in those states.
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« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2005, 11:54:10 AM »

I say we raise the minimum wage to 15 an hour, but, we charge an opebo tax, which will take 92% of his income for suggesting the idea, this tax will only affect opebo Tongue
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« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2005, 02:34:30 PM »

If minimum wage makes a country off better, and people richer, why not jack it up to $15 an hour?  Why is opebo wrong?  Unless you believe that it isn't actually beneficial for the country...

The economic benefit of a minimum wage is not monotonic.
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« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2005, 02:37:56 PM »

There is no economic benefit to price controls.
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« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2005, 02:45:41 PM »

There is no economic benefit to price controls.

Not even when Enron was price gouging California?
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« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2005, 02:49:11 PM »

We've been through the Enron thing before. Please go back and read the numerous other topics.
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« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2005, 05:41:59 PM »

There is no economic benefit to price controls.

There you go again with the baseless, unsupported claims.

Anyway, the point of the minimum wage is to redistribute.  The overall economic effect doesn't matter (though of course I believe it would be quite good). 
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« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2005, 06:04:39 PM »

The effects of price controls are well known. Inefficiency, shortages, poor quality, etc..
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« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2005, 06:07:24 PM »

The effects of price controls are well known. Inefficiency, shortages, poor quality, etc..

Those are price controls that keep the price lower than the 'market' price - this price control would be increasing the price.
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