Millennials: Racial Discrimination more important than economy, healthcare

[Blue3]

Interesting new poll says Racial Discrimination is the #1 issue for millennials in the US, beating the economy and healthcare




https://www.yahoo.com/news/millennial-focus-shifted-civil-rights-trumps-victory-report-050110589.html

[Joey1996]

Makes sense. If racial discrimination exists, economic equity and fair treatment in the health care industry cannot exist.

[Dr. Arch]

Makes sense. If racial discrimination exists, economic equity and fair treatment in the health care industry cannot exist.

Pretty much

[Cold War Liberal]

Makes sense. If racial discrimination exists, economic equity and fair treatment in the health care industry cannot exist.

Pretty much

[Beet]

It worries me almost more than anything else lately. Rather than simply saying "racism is bad", I tried to make an argument against ethnic tribalism.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Makes sense. If racial discrimination exists, economic equity and fair treatment in the health care industry cannot exist.

     If a plurality of millennials would actually accept such a utopian argument, then that in itself portends very poorly for the future. Racial discrimination is a serious problem that does merit attention, but the economy and health care can certainly be improved for everyone, including racial minorities, without rectifying the problems that currently exist in terms of race. The formulation of your statement is at core a Nirvana fallacy; "economic equity and fair treatment in the health care industry" do not have to be achieved to merit focusing on these issues.

[dead0man]

Dividing us up by race is working very well for whomever is pushing it.  Everybody seems to be enjoying it.  The end game won't be pretty though.

[Santander]

What snowflakes. Boo hoo racism.

[Devout Centrist]

As it stands, the economy is doing quite well, and major healthcare reform has just been implemented. This isn't surprising.

[kyc0705]

1. Intersectionality is a prominent school of thought.
2. Millennial bashing is so 2014.

[Joey1996]

Makes sense. If racial discrimination exists, economic equity and fair treatment in the health care industry cannot exist.

     If a plurality of millennials would actually accept such a utopian argument, then that in itself portends very poorly for the future. Racial discrimination is a serious problem that does merit attention, but the economy and health care can certainly be improved for everyone, including racial minorities, without rectifying the problems that currently exist in terms of race. The formulation of your statement is at core a Nirvana fallacy; "economic equity and fair treatment in the health care industry" do not have to be achieved to merit focusing on these issues.

There is nothing utopian about what I said... the only idealists here are those who believe we live in a post-racial country where we can solve economic inequality while ignoring the fact that high school graduate whites have greater salaries on average than college educated blacks.

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

The notion that racial discrimination is separate from issues of economic inequality in the US is very inane. Black Americans face very severe penalties, solely on account of their skin tone and controlling for other factors, when dealing with financial intermediaries, they're under-banked, they have close to a $0 net-worth etc. Every economic inquiry that has looked into discrimination in labor markets has found sizable and significant effects solely on the basis of race - as captured by name of the applicant. Whether this comes from direct racial discrimination on the part of agents in markets or is a legacy of racial discrimination in the past or, rather, an indirect effect of racial discrimination else (with law enforcement), is besides the point: it's not possible to deal with economic inequity in the US without dealing with racial discrimination.

The notion that it's "tribalistic" to the point this out is absurd - it's simply noting basic facts that characterize the state of consumer finance and outcomes in labor markets. Whether or not we these facts as a problem or decide to address them is a different question but, like it or not, the legacy of racial caste is profoundly important in nearly every arena of life. Neglecting this isn't being "above race", it's being foolish.

That said, I don't think it's possible to come to terms with these problems without placing them within a broader project of social democracy or egalitarian practices and none of this is to suggest that "white people problems" are non-existent - the poor in this country, regardless of racial background, suffer from nasty credit rationing, labor markets where employers have market power etc.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

The notion that racial discrimination is separate from issues of economic inequality in the US is very inane. Black Americans face very severe penalties, solely on account of their skin tone and controlling for other factors, when dealing with financial intermediaries, they're under-banked, they have close to a $0 net-worth etc. Every economic inquiry that has looked into discrimination in labor markets has found sizable and significant effects solely on the basis of race - as captured by name of the applicant. Whether this comes from direct racial discrimination on the part of agents in markets or is a legacy of racial discrimination in the past or, rather, an indirect effect of racial discrimination else (with law enforcement), is besides the point: it's not possible to deal with economic inequity in the US without dealing with racial discrimination.

The notion that it's "tribalistic" to the point this out is absurd - it's simply noting basic facts that characterize the state of consumer finance and outcomes in labor markets. Whether or not we these facts as a problem or decide to address them is a different question but, like it or not, the legacy of racial caste is profoundly important in nearly every arena of life. Neglecting this isn't being "above race", it's being foolish.

That said, I don't think it's possible to come to terms with these problems without placing them within a broader project of social democracy or egalitarian practices and none of this is to suggest that "white people problems" are non-existent - the poor in this country, regardless of racial background, suffer from nasty credit rationing, labor markets where employers have market power etc.

[KingSweden]

The notion that racial discrimination is separate from issues of economic inequality in the US is very inane. Black Americans face very severe penalties, solely on account of their skin tone and controlling for other factors, when dealing with financial intermediaries, they're under-banked, they have close to a $0 net-worth etc. Every economic inquiry that has looked into discrimination in labor markets has found sizable and significant effects solely on the basis of race - as captured by name of the applicant. Whether this comes from direct racial discrimination on the part of agents in markets or is a legacy of racial discrimination in the past or, rather, an indirect effect of racial discrimination else (with law enforcement), is besides the point: it's not possible to deal with economic inequity in the US without dealing with racial discrimination.

The notion that it's "tribalistic" to the point this out is absurd - it's simply noting basic facts that characterize the state of consumer finance and outcomes in labor markets. Whether or not we these facts as a problem or decide to address them is a different question but, like it or not, the legacy of racial caste is profoundly important in nearly every arena of life. Neglecting this isn't being "above race", it's being foolish.

That said, I don't think it's possible to come to terms with these problems without placing them within a broader project of social democracy or egalitarian practices and none of this is to suggest that "white people problems" are non-existent - the poor in this country, regardless of racial background, suffer from nasty credit rationing, labor markets where employers have market power etc.

[Strudelcutie4427]

Where was this survey done? Oberlin? Umass Amherst?

[HillGoose]

not for me.

I'm a millenial and I think the #1 most important issue is to disarm North Korea/Iran/Russia, free their people, and save the world from grave danger.

I don't believe in polls. They're all just lies.

[Gass3268]

Where was this survey done? Oberlin? Umass Amherst?

Research done by Achieve and funding supported by The Case Foundation.


So no...

[Joey1996]

The notion that racial discrimination is separate from issues of economic inequality in the US is very inane. Black Americans face very severe penalties, solely on account of their skin tone and controlling for other factors, when dealing with financial intermediaries, they're under-banked, they have close to a $0 net-worth etc. Every economic inquiry that has looked into discrimination in labor markets has found sizable and significant effects solely on the basis of race - as captured by name of the applicant. Whether this comes from direct racial discrimination on the part of agents in markets or is a legacy of racial discrimination in the past or, rather, an indirect effect of racial discrimination else (with law enforcement), is besides the point: it's not possible to deal with economic inequity in the US without dealing with racial discrimination.

The notion that it's "tribalistic" to the point this out is absurd - it's simply noting basic facts that characterize the state of consumer finance and outcomes in labor markets. Whether or not we these facts as a problem or decide to address them is a different question but, like it or not, the legacy of racial caste is profoundly important in nearly every arena of life. Neglecting this isn't being "above race", it's being foolish.

That said, I don't think it's possible to come to terms with these problems without placing them within a broader project of social democracy or egalitarian practices and none of this is to suggest that "white people problems" are non-existent - the poor in this country, regardless of racial background, suffer from nasty credit rationing, labor markets where employers have market power etc.

[HillGoose]

polls are like biology, it's all just a bunch of lies intended to make certain groups feel bad about themselves.

I wonder what millennial-hating organization paid for this poll.

[Gass3268]

polls are like biology, it's all just a bunch of lies intended to make certain groups feel bad about themselves.

I wonder what millennial-hating organization paid for this poll.

Where was this survey done? Oberlin? Umass Amherst?

Research done by Achieve and funding supported by The Case Foundation.


So no...

[HillGoose]

polls are like biology, it's all just a bunch of lies intended to make certain groups feel bad about themselves.

I wonder what millennial-hating organization paid for this poll.

Where was this survey done? Oberlin? Umass Amherst?

Research done by Achieve and funding supported by The Case Foundation.


So no...

yeah those people can go f!ck themselves

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

polls are like biology, it's all just a bunch of lies intended to make certain groups feel bad about themselves.

I wonder what millennial-hating organization paid for this poll.

Polls are just, like, a series of tubes maaaaaaan.