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« Reply #1100 on: July 21, 2018, 12:05:58 PM »

That’s the tell that it was a staff tweet
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« Reply #1101 on: July 21, 2018, 12:12:30 PM »

I'm inclined to believe they are true considering their texts were hacked a long time ago and Politico verified some of them, although not the ones posted above. (Source)

Obviously I don't know for sure, but I would bet they are accurate.
Me too. Seems totally legit.
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« Reply #1102 on: July 21, 2018, 02:06:34 PM »


The texts are wild and they get really dark.

Manafort deserves everything he gets coming to him if these texts are accurate.

 

It's a fascinating world...
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« Reply #1103 on: July 21, 2018, 04:53:04 PM »

Carter Page FISA documents released in response to FOIA request: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/21/us/politics/carter-page-fisa.html.

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« Reply #1104 on: July 21, 2018, 05:33:47 PM »

The Page FISA warrants are now online at https://vault.fbi.gov/recently-added, if anyone is looking for a way to occupy your Saturday night.
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« Reply #1105 on: July 21, 2018, 08:18:39 PM »

Long but informative thread about the FISA warrants: https://twitter.com/normative/status/1020803498957582336.  One part that jumps out:

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« Reply #1106 on: July 21, 2018, 08:19:42 PM »

Long but informative thread about the FISA warrants: https://twitter.com/normative/status/1020803498957582336.  One part that jumps out:

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This is wholly unsurprising
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« Reply #1107 on: July 22, 2018, 06:39:21 PM »

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Tick, tick, tick.
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« Reply #1108 on: July 22, 2018, 10:17:23 PM »

It was obvious the Nunes memo was a dishonest joke the day it was published.
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« Reply #1109 on: July 23, 2018, 02:51:59 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwg6u2_A3Jo&feature=youtu.be

Anti-Trump protesters shout "LOCK HIM UP!" as Trump arrives at the White House

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« Reply #1110 on: July 23, 2018, 03:10:49 PM »

And no surprise, Washington Examiner was full of it claiming Tony Podesta was offered immunity by Mueller. His name was nowhere on the witness list published today.
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« Reply #1111 on: July 23, 2018, 08:21:22 PM »

And no surprise, Washington Examiner was full of it claiming Tony Podesta was offered immunity by Mueller. His name was nowhere on the witness list published today.

Podesta! Clinton and the Democrats are behind this! Lock her up! Fire Mueller! Make Trump President for life!
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« Reply #1112 on: July 24, 2018, 12:33:57 AM »

The people who were REEEEing about how the probe is just a secret ploy to protect the Podestas are the same ones that said the probe was a secret ploy to convict them when Mueller originally started investigating Podesta Group
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« Reply #1113 on: July 24, 2018, 08:10:21 PM »



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« Reply #1114 on: July 24, 2018, 08:12:45 PM »





Seems bad.
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« Reply #1115 on: July 24, 2018, 08:22:14 PM »

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« Reply #1116 on: July 24, 2018, 10:46:37 PM »

Is that actually illegal, though? Buying the rights to bury a negative story isn't exactly new for high-profile people. Or do they think campaign money was used for this? Because that is believable, considering Trump is a guy who used his charity to pay for a Boy Scouts fee for his son.
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« Reply #1117 on: July 24, 2018, 11:33:25 PM »

Is that actually illegal, though? Buying the rights to bury a negative story isn't exactly new for high-profile people. Or do they think campaign money was used for this? Because that is believable, considering Trump is a guy who used his charity to pay for a Boy Scouts fee for his son.

Depending on who paid, it could also be seen as an illegal campaign contribution.
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« Reply #1118 on: July 25, 2018, 07:39:39 AM »

I think the main reason this was leaked was because it "proves" that Giuliani lied when he said Trump wasn't aware of a payment. Of course, we all know Rudy lies and Trump lies, but having it on tape makes it more difficult for folks to deny.

To me, this is just kind of a meh thing, but I get why Cohen's lawyer released it.
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« Reply #1119 on: July 25, 2018, 08:12:18 AM »

I think the main reason this was leaked was because it "proves" that Giuliani lied when he said Trump wasn't aware of a payment. Of course, we all know Rudy lies and Trump lies, but having it on tape makes it more difficult for folks to deny.

To me, this is just kind of a meh thing, but I get why Cohen's lawyer released it.

Right. This isn’t hugely damaging to Trump, but it could be massively damaging to Cohen.
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« Reply #1120 on: July 25, 2018, 09:55:03 AM »

I think the main reason this was leaked was because it "proves" that Giuliani lied when he said Trump wasn't aware of a payment. Of course, we all know Rudy lies and Trump lies, but having it on tape makes it more difficult for folks to deny.

To me, this is just kind of a meh thing, but I get why Cohen's lawyer released it.

Right. This isn’t hugely damaging to Trump, but it could be massively damaging to Cohen.

Are we conflating with this with Stormy Daniels? The Enquirer bought her story but there was no direct payment from Trump or Cohen and Cohen didn't set up a company to pay her. They just talked about doing it.
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« Reply #1121 on: July 25, 2018, 10:20:03 AM »

I think the main reason this was leaked was because it "proves" that Giuliani lied when he said Trump wasn't aware of a payment. Of course, we all know Rudy lies and Trump lies, but having it on tape makes it more difficult for folks to deny.

To me, this is just kind of a meh thing, but I get why Cohen's lawyer released it.

Right. This isn’t hugely damaging to Trump, but it could be massively damaging to Cohen.

Are we conflating with this with Stormy Daniels? The Enquirer bought her story but there was no direct payment from Trump or Cohen and Cohen didn't set up a company to pay her. They just talked about doing it.

I'm not sure on that front. Regardless, it seems there were payments that Trump/Giuliani have denied even knowing about, but now there is proof that Trump knew about it, or at least discussed it, regardless of whether it ever went through or not.
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« Reply #1122 on: July 25, 2018, 11:24:50 AM »

I think the main reason this was leaked was because it "proves" that Giuliani lied when he said Trump wasn't aware of a payment. Of course, we all know Rudy lies and Trump lies, but having it on tape makes it more difficult for folks to deny.

To me, this is just kind of a meh thing, but I get why Cohen's lawyer released it.

Right. This isn’t hugely damaging to Trump, but it could be massively damaging to Cohen.

Are we conflating with this with Stormy Daniels? The Enquirer bought her story but there was no direct payment from Trump or Cohen and Cohen didn't set up a company to pay her. They just talked about doing it.

Yeah. It is difficult to keep track of all the different lies the President of the United States and leader of the Republican party has told about both his adultery with  women in the adult entertainment industry and his potentially illegal attempts to conceal said adultery.

Fun fact: adultery is still technically illegal in both New York and Florida.
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« Reply #1123 on: July 25, 2018, 11:30:59 AM »

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« Reply #1124 on: July 25, 2018, 12:51:19 PM »



I have yet to see any evidence Cohen is actually cooperating with prosecutors at this point.
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