predict the roberts confirmation vote!

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

What? Feinstein isn't running for president. Hillary is NOT untouchable, although Republicans will continue to spout that line because they want to see her get the nomination.

He was talking about the 2006 Senate elections, not 2008 presidential one.

[TheresNoMoney]

Feinstein was never in any type of jeopardy. I think she's the most popular statewide politician in California.

[CARLHAYDEN]

NARAL=not a "far left" group, they're a single-issue group based on keeping abortion rights legal (a position the majority of the country agrees on)

First, NARAL opposes all restrictions on abortion.

Second, lets have a look at some polls:

Organization/           Always           Sometimes          Always          Unsure
Date of Poll               Legal              Legal                  Illegal

CNN/USA
June/2005                 24%               55%                    20%                1%

CBS News
729-8/2/05                28                  63                         5                    4

ABC News/WP
April/2005                  20                  63                        14                   3

Quinnipiac
December/2004         16                  67                        13                   5

Mean                          22                 62                         13                   3.25

Median                       22                 63                         13.5                3.5

[King]

Real vote will be 33-63-4 in favor of defeat, but Diebold will steal the election so the outcome will be 81-15-4.

[A18]

Real vote will be 33-63-4 in favor of defeat, but Diebold will steal the election so the outcome will be 81-15-4.

Clearly Ohio's two votes will be stolen.

[CARLHAYDEN]

The Democrats in the Senate have a problem if more than 22 of them vote against Roberts, they will have discredited themselves in the vote for the next nominee for the average American.

Its like the little boy who cried 'Wolf.'

[CARLHAYDEN]

Bayh introduced Roberts along with John Warner at a press conference probably two weeks ago.  There is no doubt at all he will vote to confirm.

You were saying...?

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050924/NEWS01/509240503/1006

[Blue Rectangle]

And now some news even less surprising than Delta going bankrupt:

Ken Salazar is voting "aye".

[A18]

Final vote is when? Thursday?

[ATFFL]

Final vote is when? Thursday?

No later than then.  May be earlier.

[Flying Dog]

69-31

[CARLHAYDEN]

69-31

63 - 33

[riceowl]

it wont be less than 69. 14 Dems have said they will vote yes.

[TheresNoMoney]

82-18

[Blue Rectangle]

78-22

I will now accept my accolades, along with most everyone else in this thread.

[Blue Rectangle]

Democrats who voted no:
Akaka (HI)
Bayh (IN)
Biden (DE)
Boxer (CA)
Cantwell (WA)
Clinton (NY)
Corzine (NJ)
Dayton (MN)
Durbin (IL)
Feinstein (CA)
Harkin (IA)
Inouye (HI)
Kennedy (MA)
Kerry (MA)
Lautenberg (NJ)
Mikulski (MD)
Obama (IL)
Reed, J. (RI)
Reid, H. (NV)
Sarbanes (MD)
Schumer (NY)
Stabenow (MI)

[Sam Spade]

Bayh chickened out to appease the far left base. 

Kudos to those who predicted this. 

[minionofmidas]

I saw a list earlier today with 77 safe yes votes, 21 safe noes, and 2 in doubts. Of this Dorgan ended up voting in favor, Akaka against, but I'm not sure if there were any surprises.

[Democratic Hawk]

Bayh chickened out to appease the far left base. 

Probably, because the left base wouldn't forgive a yes vote as easily as moderates might forgive a no vote. I'd have prefered Bayh to have voted yes - as I would have voted -  but, I suppose, he had his reasons for doing otherwise. Only time will tell if it comes back to haunt him. I suppose it's more a question of pragmatics than chickening out

Me personally, I'm all for confronting the left base of the Democratic Party rather than appeasing it - but then I'm not (and never will be )running in the Democratic presidential primaries or any other for that matter

Dave

[Blue Rectangle]

I'll go with 78-21, with one absent.

HA!  There were no absences, dumbass.