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« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2018, 07:55:12 PM »

That's one way to get Hillary Clinton to show up there during a general election.

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« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2018, 08:21:24 PM »

That's one way to get Hillary Clinton to show up there during a general election.
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« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2018, 03:27:30 AM »

They tried Philly in a bid to hold Pennsylvania, didn't work.

Or how 'bout 2012 when both parties lost the states by narrow margins?

Not sold on the choices making that much difference anymore,as long as the state isn't a Safe State.

If you arbitrarily measure from 1964 onward, both parties have won the states their conventions were in 50% of the time and lost 50% of the time.

From 1932 onward, Dems maintain the 50/50 (11/11) and GOP lost 55% of the time (12/10).

From 1856 onward (first election where both parties existed), Dems essentially break even by losing 51% (21/20); GOP wins 63% of the time (26/15), thanks in no small part to them consistently holding conventions in northern states throughout the 19th century.


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10% of the time, both parties have lost
22% of the time, both parties have won
68% of the time, one party won and one party lost
  • 27% of the time, Dems won/GOP lost
  • 41% of the time, GOP won/Dems lost

Only 4 out of the 26 elections in the past century have had conventions where either both parties won or lost their respective convention states. In the remaining 22, one party won while one party lost. Prior to that, both parties winning their conventions' states occurred about half the time.


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« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2018, 02:04:59 PM »

It won't make a difference, but optics are everything. If the Clintonian sector of the party had their way, the conventions would never be held North of Dallas.
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« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2018, 12:01:31 PM »


How epic would a convention in Lambeau Field be?
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« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2018, 12:48:22 PM »

Would like the DNC in Minneapolis or Atlanta
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« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2018, 02:43:59 PM »

Milwaukee is a good choice. Pittsburgh as well.
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« Reply #32 on: February 25, 2018, 03:14:42 PM »

If Preaident Trump had solid approvals right now and wasn't as controversial as he is, the GOP could really make a statement by having their convention in Minneapolis. No, it wouldn't help them win the state, but it would send the message that they do not plan on conceding Minnesota to Democrats.

Hopefully epic enough to convert my wife to a Chicago Bears fan.
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« Reply #33 on: February 25, 2018, 04:24:08 PM »

Milwaukee is a good choice.
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« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2018, 07:37:13 PM »

Milwaukee is a good choice. Pittsburgh as well.
DNC in Milwaukee, RNC in Pittsburgh sounds perfect to me. Good fit for both parties and their objectives going into 2020. Charlotte would be okay for republicans, but I feel like media coverage would focus on the bathroom issue and distract from the message even more than usual.

I wouldn't be surprised if the DNC went for Atlanta or Phoenix in an attempt to accelerate the Sunbelt strategy. I think it would be a mistake though, to the extent that this matters (not a lot).
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« Reply #35 on: March 01, 2018, 11:23:57 AM »

This story says the deadline for cities to submit bids to host the RNC had been yesterday, but it's been delayed:

http://www.wbtv.com/story/37619098/deadline-to-host-republican-national-convention-extended-charlotte-working-on-bid-submission

What's weird is that I'm still not seeing any talk of other cities preparing their own bids.  If the deadline is right now (albeit now delayed a few weeks) why aren't we hearing about other bids?  Does no one want to host it besides Charlotte?
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« Reply #36 on: March 09, 2018, 10:13:31 AM »

Here's another story about Milwaukee's bid for the DNC, which mentions other cities that might bid:

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/09/milwaukee-democratic-convention-448710

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« Reply #37 on: March 09, 2018, 10:20:16 AM »

I think the symbolism with Hillary not going to Wisconsin would make Milwaukee a good choice, also I'm biased.
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« Reply #38 on: March 09, 2018, 11:43:14 AM »

Milwaukee or Pittsburgh would be my top two choices.
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« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2018, 09:35:23 PM »

Milwaukee is an excellent choice. If that falls through though: Pittsburgh, Phoenix, Atlanta, or Detroit would be decent choices as well. I don't personally believe that where a convention takes place has much effect on an election, but it can't really hurt to hold it in a competitive state.
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« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2018, 11:47:22 PM »

Does Milwaukee have enough hotel space?  I am pretty sure Birmingham does not.
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« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2018, 11:49:02 PM »

Does Milwaukee have enough hotel space?  I am pretty sure Birmingham does not.

With its proximity to Chicago, it doesn't need enough all on its own.
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« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2018, 11:52:33 PM »


It would not be epic at all.  In fact I do not think any convention could be called epic because of the city it was held in.
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« Reply #43 on: March 10, 2018, 11:55:55 PM »

Does Milwaukee have enough hotel space?  I am pretty sure Birmingham does not.

With its proximity to Chicago, it doesn't need enough all on its own.

Then hold it in Chicago.  Why would you even think to ask a delegate or a guest to travel that far.  I do not think you have been to a convention. 
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« Reply #44 on: March 20, 2018, 02:53:30 PM »

This news is a couple of weeks old, but I just found it now: Columbus, OH won't bid for either party's convention:

http://www.dispatch.com/news/20180301/columbus-staying-away-from-2020-political-convention-bids
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« Reply #45 on: March 24, 2018, 08:59:29 AM »

Atlanta will bid for the DNC:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/darrensands/atlanta-will-bid-to-host-the-2020-democratic-national

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« Reply #46 on: March 24, 2018, 10:27:03 AM »


I'd still choose Milwaukee, if only b/c Atlanta in the summer doesn't sound like fun.
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« Reply #47 on: March 24, 2018, 01:29:05 PM »

If it's become an Atlanta-Milwaukee race, I think dems should defintily choose Milwaukee. Hillary tried the sun belt strategy, and it failed. Republicans chose Cleveland and it helped them winning the rust belt, whereas Dems didn't campaign here, taking it for granted
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« Reply #48 on: March 24, 2018, 02:31:12 PM »

If it's become an Atlanta-Milwaukee race, I think dems should defintily choose Milwaukee. Hillary tried the sun belt strategy, and it failed. Republicans chose Cleveland and it helped them winning the rust belt, whereas Dems didn't campaign here, taking it for granted
Huh? LOL. Spending a couple thousand dollars on ads in Texas and having Michelle Obama visit Arizona once isn't "the Sun Belt Strategy".

The Sun Belt is the future of the Democratic Party. The nominee and his/her surrogates can travel all across the Rust Belt and can spend millions on ads and canvassers in Wisconsin. What they can do in Atlanta is show that they notice the growing Democratic electorate in the South. It will doubly exciting if Georgia has a Democratic governor. Smiley
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« Reply #49 on: March 24, 2018, 05:21:47 PM »

Sunbelt!, sunbelt!, Sunbelt!

If it's become an Atlanta-Milwaukee race, I think dems should defintily choose Milwaukee. Hillary tried the sun belt strategy, and it failed. Republicans chose Cleveland and it helped them winning the rust belt, whereas Dems didn't campaign here, taking it for granted

Did she actually though? probably not. she spent more than Obama did in the region, but she only spent a couple million spread across TX,GA, and AZ. Meanwhile the Hillary For America organization wasted tens of millions on a failed campaign in Ohio. If the Money spend in Ohio was spent in GA, or AZ the result in both states would be a lot closer.
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