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Helsinkian
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« on: February 15, 2018, 11:15:43 AM »

As someone who has been a conscript, I fully support it.
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2018, 04:07:16 PM »
« Edited: February 19, 2018, 04:27:15 PM by Helsinkian »

This is absurd. Its a violation of fundemental human rights and it's not draconian way of interrupting young people's plans and ambitions. The state not exist to provide social cohesion and solidarity. It exists to provide services in exchange for tax dollars. Besides, there's nothing wrong with the atomization and globalization of society.

The terminology of "fundamental human rights" was first formulated during the French Revolution. Revolutionary France was also the first country to institute universal conscription in its modern form.

It is not unreasonable to say that citizenship entails both rights and duties. Those who say that "conscription is slavery" are not much better than the libertarians who say that "taxation is theft".
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2018, 06:04:00 AM »
« Edited: February 20, 2018, 06:06:13 AM by Helsinkian »

Conscription is even worse than Slavery.

Slavery is the idea that your work choices belong not to you but to someone else, and that someone else has a responsibility to keep you safe from life threatening situations.

Conscription is the idea that your work choices belong not to you but to someone else, and that someone else has no responsibility to keep you safe from life threatening situations.

And a libertarian would say: "Taxation is the idea that the fruits of your work belong not to you but to someone else". Would you agree with that as well?

Except taxation is necessary and conscription is not.

If it's not necessary then why did almost all countries that participated in World War II practice it?
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