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« Reply #150 on: February 21, 2018, 10:58:07 AM »
« edited: February 21, 2018, 11:09:03 AM by muon2 »

This plan (muon2-A) has no city or town chops (and one county chop, not that it matters).

CD 1 (+466); D+16.75
CD 2 (-467); D+4.07

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« Reply #151 on: February 21, 2018, 11:01:08 AM »

Reposted since it is three pages back on this thread.

For those who want to get a start on RI, I would note the following issues. RI has a PVI of D+9.6 and 2 CDs. To get a 0 Skew one district has to be a toss up (PVI less than 1.50). That's hard to do without making a mess of the map, so most plans will have a skew of 1 for the Dems. Polarization can be reduced by keeping one CD under PVI D+5.5 which is a competitive district that leans D.

RI has no county government, and they exist for purely statistical purposes. All local functions are handled by the municipalities. Because of that there is no chop score given for chopping counties, only municipalities. Also all of RI except for the municipalities of Hopkinton and Westerly are in the Providence-Warwick NECTA so every plan is going chop that once, and there's no value in that score.

Municipalities are the primary community of interest in RI, so keeping them whole is important. However, DRA only has 2010 block groups and the municipality name doesn't show up. The City/Town lines feature only works for a few municipalities since in some cases they show a Census place, not a municipality. Here's a map of the municipalities and the connection lines (including bridges and the Block Island ferry). Erosity is measured by the number of connecting lines cut by the border between CDs and cuts through municipalities.


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« Reply #152 on: February 21, 2018, 11:02:48 AM »

Rhode Island plan

My non-partisan redistricting plan for Rhode Island, only Providence County is split, no cities or towns are split, and only Greenville CDP is split.

District 1 D+15.94 - 68.6 - 29.8
District 2 D+4.54 - 58.7 - 39.5



CDP are not units of government and not independent of towns. Separating Greenville chops Smithville town.
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« Reply #153 on: February 21, 2018, 11:11:31 AM »

My alternate plan (muon2-B) also has no city or town chops. The erosity is one point larger, but the inequality is reduced.

CD 1 (+124); D+16.4
CD 2 (-125); D+3.97

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« Reply #154 on: February 21, 2018, 12:27:35 PM »

Plan Two: the towns of Providence, Cranston, Johnston, Smithfield, Lincoln, North Providence, Burrillville, Glocester, Scituate, Foster, Coventry, West Warwick, West Greenwich, Exeter, Richmond, Hopkinton, Charlestown, and Westerly lie in CD 1 (525,722; D+9.49). The rest of the state lies in CD 2 (526,845; D+9.75).
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« Reply #155 on: February 21, 2018, 03:25:28 PM »

lol sol you ranked every map
but anyway, Gallatine's map wins for New Hampshire! (mine comes in second cri)

Next is Rhode Island Smiley COUNTIES DON'T MATTER! You should really focus on towns. Big municipalities like Warwick can be split, but in a sensible way.
For Condorcet

Gal 6-0 (defeated all in pairwise comparisons)
CVP 4-1-1 (defeated all below, except tied Sol)
Sol 3-1-2 (defeated all below, except tied MuA, tied CVP)
Sin 3-3 (defeated all below)
HCP 2-4 (defeated all below)
MuB 1-5 (defeated all below)
MuA 0-5-1 (defeated no one, tied Sol)

For inverted Borda (low score wins)

Gal 15.5
Tie Sol, CVP 17
HCP 19.5
Sin 20
MuA 23
MuB 27

For IRV

Gall 1 1 1 2 3
MuA 1 1 1 1 1
MuB 1 1 1 1 1
HCP 0.5 1 1 1 x
CVP 0.5 0.5 1 x
Sol 0.5 0.5 x
Sin 0.5 x
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« Reply #156 on: February 21, 2018, 05:12:56 PM »

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★ Our current state is Rhode Island

Submissions are OPEN until 2/23, 12:00 AM EST! Feel free to submit up to TWO maps maximum, add a narrative/explanation to your map, and give feedback on other people's maps!

Is this 0500 UTC 2/23?
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« Reply #157 on: February 21, 2018, 05:55:49 PM »
« Edited: February 21, 2018, 06:00:28 PM by Kevinstat »

Here's my first (maybe only) plan:



(The part of the state below the image is in CD-2 of course. Smiley)

I may try to find something better, but I'm pretty satisfied with this one, particularly with the low deviation.  No cities or towns are split.  I confirmed the population data with County Subdivision population totals from the U.S. Census Bureau's web site.  I used cut and paste to get the info for both districts to show up on the image.
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« Reply #158 on: February 21, 2018, 06:52:45 PM »

Here's my first (maybe only) plan:



(The part of the state below the image is in CD-2 of course. Smiley)

I may try to find something better, but I'm pretty satisfied with this one, particularly with the low deviation.  No cities or towns are split.  I confirmed the population data with County Subdivision population totals from the U.S. Census Bureau's web site.  I used cut and paste to get the info for both districts to show up on the image.

Very nice. It is a Pareto equivalent to my plans:
muon2 A: inequality 5, erosity 7
muon2 B: inequality 3, erosity 8
Kevinstat: inequality 2, erosity 10
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« Reply #159 on: February 21, 2018, 06:57:54 PM »

How do you get the road map to show up?
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« Reply #160 on: February 21, 2018, 07:08:26 PM »

How do you get the road map to show up?
you have to use DRA 2.2 not 2.5
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« Reply #161 on: February 21, 2018, 07:21:31 PM »
« Edited: February 23, 2018, 08:05:42 AM by cvparty »


1 (dense, urban Providence area): D+18.38
2 (rest of the state): D+2.8
I know everyone's gonna SCREAM at me, but I split Cranston bc it has a weird shape and the part west of I-295 is less urban and more similar to the 2nd district than to Providence. Warwick is split for basically the same reason (but also due to population, plus Potowomut peninsula makes no sense). They're both nearly 100k+ cities so ye
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« Reply #162 on: February 22, 2018, 01:58:40 AM »

Map 1 Plantationmander



RI-1 (Providence) -0.89% D 15.51
RI-2 (Wastefulness) +0.89% D 5.18

Features 1 county split; no town splits.
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« Reply #163 on: February 22, 2018, 02:04:22 AM »

Map 2 LittleRhodyMander



RI-1 (Providence) +0.28% R 16.34
RI-2 (Wastefulness) -0.28% R 4.08

No town splits. RI-1 compact includes all of towns adjacent to Providence.
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« Reply #164 on: February 24, 2018, 02:49:37 PM »
« Edited: February 24, 2018, 03:00:34 PM by Southern Delegate TimTurner »

1. TimTurner-2
2. TimTurner-1
3. Jimrtex-2
3. Muon-1
4. Australian Swing Voter
4. Jimrtex-1
5. cvparty
6. Singletxguyforfun
6. HCP-a
7. Kevinstat
8. Muon-2
9. HCP-b (thanks to the noncontiguity within that little bit of Warwick)
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« Reply #165 on: February 24, 2018, 02:54:11 PM »

1. TimTurner-2
2. TimTurner-1
3. Jimrtex-2
3. Muon-1
4. Australian Swing Voter
4. Jimrtex-1
5. cvparty
6. Singletxguyforfun
7. Kevinstat
8. Muon-2

Mine aren't being voted on?
oops sorry.
I will add your maps to the ballot.
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« Reply #166 on: February 25, 2018, 10:04:34 PM »

Sorry for the Delay everyone. It was just a pretty rough weekend for me. But anyway, my top RI picks are

1. Australian swing voter
2. Muon B
3. Singletxguy
4. Muon A
5. CV Party
6. TimTurner 1
7. Jimrtex (2)
8. HCP 1
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« Reply #167 on: February 25, 2018, 10:45:17 PM »

y'all didn't include two of the maps...there are ten of them

also, scarlet has told me that she cannot commit as a panelist Cry if anyone is interested in taking her place please notify me.
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« Reply #168 on: February 26, 2018, 01:44:14 AM »

y'all didn't include two of the maps...there are ten of them

also, scarlet has told me that she cannot commit as a panelist Cry if anyone is interested in taking her place please notify me.
There are 12 of them. I assume Singletxguyforfun meant to rank the other four (HCP 2/B, TimTurner 2, Kevinstat, and Jimrtex 1) last.

I suggest that you count the Top 6 for each panelist as approval, and then rank any that had approval from three or more panelists.
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« Reply #169 on: February 26, 2018, 01:57:45 AM »

y'all didn't include two of the maps...there are ten of them

also, scarlet has told me that she cannot commit as a panelist Cry if anyone is interested in taking her place please notify me.
There are 12 of them. I assume Singletxguyforfun meant to rank the other four (HCP 2/B, TimTurner 2, Kevinstat, and Jimrtex 1) last.

I suggest that you count the Top 6 for each panelist as approval, and then rank any that had approval from three or more panelists.

I think you are waiting for rankings by Sol, yourself, and the Dem-Replacement.
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« Reply #170 on: February 26, 2018, 10:53:16 AM »

y'all didn't include two of the maps...there are ten of them

also, scarlet has told me that she cannot commit as a panelist Cry if anyone is interested in taking her place please notify me.

I join.
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« Reply #171 on: February 26, 2018, 12:35:18 PM »

y'all didn't include two of the maps...there are ten of them

also, scarlet has told me that she cannot commit as a panelist Cry if anyone is interested in taking her place please notify me.

I join.
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« Reply #172 on: February 26, 2018, 12:45:02 PM »

y'all didn't include two of the maps...there are ten of them

also, scarlet has told me that she cannot commit as a panelist Cry if anyone is interested in taking her place please notify me.
There are 12 of them. I assume Singletxguyforfun meant to rank the other four (HCP 2/B, TimTurner 2, Kevinstat, and Jimrtex 1) last.

I suggest that you count the Top 6 for each panelist as approval, and then rank any that had approval from three or more panelists.

I think you are waiting for rankings by Sol, yourself, and the Dem-Replacement.

I was under the impression that we were supposed to submit our votes over PM, which I've already done.
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« Reply #173 on: February 26, 2018, 01:16:04 PM »

y'all didn't include two of the maps...there are ten of them

also, scarlet has told me that she cannot commit as a panelist Cry if anyone is interested in taking her place please notify me.
There are 12 of them. I assume Singletxguyforfun meant to rank the other four (HCP 2/B, TimTurner 2, Kevinstat, and Jimrtex 1) last.

I suggest that you count the Top 6 for each panelist as approval, and then rank any that had approval from three or more panelists.

I think you are waiting for rankings by Sol, yourself, and the Dem-Replacement.

I was under the impression that we were supposed to submit our votes over PM, which I've already done.
yea that's what I asked, I PMed everyone exactly what they needed to do for each state and explicitly asked for a PM response so that nothing would be missed. but everyone else just chose whatever state they wanted to do and posted in the thread and ignored the rest :/ for example only you and I have ranked Kentucky and voted whether to approve each of the NC maps. so idk what to do now
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« Reply #174 on: February 26, 2018, 01:32:10 PM »

I have a crazy idea.

How about we get rid of the permanent panel entirely. Just have the 5 fastest people at any given state be the ones in the panel for that state. Different panel for every state, and ensures that things go quickly.
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