Trump: Not a "Conservative" but an "Anti-Progressive"

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

http://buchanan.org/blog/trump-middle-american-radical-128704

https://thefederalist.com/2018/02/05/trump-isnt-conservative-thats-good-thing/

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The gist of these two articles is the same.  Trump isn't a "conservative", but he is, very much, an "anti-progressive".  He views many American institutions as having been captured by the Left to the point where they don't deserve the reputations that they have enjoyed.  And he has chosen to take them on, and take them on directly.

This explains why opposition to Trump is "resistance".  Trump has called these institutions that are supposed to be trusted and neutral as biased and leftist, and he's making his case stick with folks who were once undecided.  What folks are "resisting" is losing THEIR influence, THEIR careers, THEIR elite status.  

If folks wonder why the GOP is becoming Trump's party, this is why.  Trump is actually making moves to reclaim surrendered ground in the broader culture war.

[Virginiá]

The gist of these two articles is the same.  Trump isn't a "conservative", but he is, very much, an "anti-progressive".  He views many American institutions as having been captured by the Left to the point where they don't deserve the reputations that they have enjoyed.  And he has chosen to take them on, and take them on directly.

I hope they aren't trying to say the FBI has been "captured" by the left - an institution long known for having a conservative bent, which isn't surprising at all given the people that work there. Trump isn't fighting some liberal conspiracy within the Dept of Justice. Trump is being investigated and he's trying to smear the justice system to undermine any revelations or indictments that come from it. Ranting about the text messages between two lovers isn't going to change this.

[Rookie Yinzer]

The institutions that publicly announced the re-opening of an investigation against his opponent 11 days before the election and remained mum on the investigation he was under? K.

And "anti-progressive" must be short for "self-serving, narcissist troll"?

[KingSweden]

This is an attempt to intellectualize reactionary politics with no underlying philosophy other than “lol owning the libs”

[Reaganfan]

Well one thing is absolutely true, that the agenda of the left has shifted to what they consider "tolerance". Tolerance is, by definition, the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.

But according to liberals, at the UN "Tolerance" page, Tolerance is, by their flawed definition:
1.1 Tolerance is respect, acceptance and appreciation of the rich diversity of our world's cultures, our forms of expression and ways of being human.

Um....no it's not. LOL

That's not what tolerance means at all. Liberals believe that the definition of "tolerance" is "being liberal".

That's incorrect.

I can unequivocally say that I didn't hear people using the phrase "diversity" or how important "diversity" was, until I was in my early twenties (Circa 2008). Diversity, globalization, all of that was never stressed growing up by teachers or in social studies or anything that I saw.

[Hindsight was 2020]

This is an attempt to intellectualize reactionary politics with no underlying philosophy other than “lol owning the libs”

[7,052,770]

Well one thing is absolutely true, that the agenda of the left has shifted to what they consider "tolerance". Tolerance is, by definition, the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.

But according to liberals, at the UN "Tolerance" page, Tolerance is, by their flawed definition:
1.1 Tolerance is respect, acceptance and appreciation of the rich diversity of our world's cultures, our forms of expression and ways of being human.

Um....no it's not. LOL

That's not what tolerance means at all. Liberals believe that the definition of "tolerance" is "being liberal".

That's incorrect.

I can unequivocally say that I didn't hear people using the phrase "diversity" or how important "diversity" was, until I was in my early twenties (Circa 2008). Diversity, globalization, all of that was never stressed growing up by teachers or in social studies or anything that I saw.

> Hadn't heard the word "diversity" before he was in his 20s. (Due to attending joke online high school?)

> Lectures us on the "true" definition on the word.

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

Well one thing is absolutely true, that the agenda of the left has shifted to what they consider "tolerance". Tolerance is, by definition, the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.

But according to liberals, at the UN "Tolerance" page, Tolerance is, by their flawed definition:
1.1 Tolerance is respect, acceptance and appreciation of the rich diversity of our world's cultures, our forms of expression and ways of being human.

Um....no it's not. LOL

That's not what tolerance means at all. Liberals believe that the definition of "tolerance" is "being liberal".

That's incorrect.

I can unequivocally say that I didn't hear people using the phrase "diversity" or how important "diversity" was, until I was in my early twenties (Circa 2008). Diversity, globalization, all of that was never stressed growing up by teachers or in social studies or anything that I saw.

Just as we have redefined "marriage", we have redefined "tolerance".

Tolerance once meant that folks had the right to believe what they wanted, and express their ideas as they saw fit without being hassled, and without government jackboots kicking down their door.  It didn't mean their ideas had to be accepted as correct, or ratified as good, but it meant that we accepted that others had "the right to be wrong" in what they believed. 

Today, "tolerance" means that other folks' ideas, cultures, religions, values, are of equal value as are own, and to be actively tolerant means to acknowledge this concept publicly.  Of course, this literally means that American culture is equally as valuable as a culture that produces honor killings and genital mutilation of females.  Or a culture that produces a beehive society with no acknowledgment of, or protection for, individual freedoms.

I prefer the old definition.  It's more grounded in reality.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Trump isn't sitting well with women, blacks and Latinos, but the affluent which are white collar businessmen.  Nothing he's gonna do during his 4 years will change that.

[krazen1211]

Trump attacked the white liberals and won the election. It's pure genius.

[Pennsylvania Deplorable]

Pat Buchanan is correct. I think that's part of why Trump generated such enthusiasm from young white males fed up with SJWs. The graph is from a survey of something like 100,000 high school students in 47 states.

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

Pat Buchanan is correct. I think that's part of why Trump generated such enthusiasm from young white males fed up with SJWs. The graph is from a survey of something like 100,000 high school students in 47 states.

I guess the Hitler youth might be an actual thing.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Uncle Pat!

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

This is an attempt to intellectualize reactionary politics with no underlying philosophy other than “lol owning the libs”

I think it's more that the conservative movement is starting to realize that they've shackled themselves to an idiot bound for failure, and are desperate to try and avoid being dragged down with him when he eventually crashes and burns. They're too late, of course. The Trumpstink they've spent the last two years wallowing in will stick to them for a generation, by which time American 'conservatives' will be rotting with the other political garbage in history's landfill. (Just hopefully not with modern civilization alongside it.)

[Indy Texas]

It makes sense because most of the people who vote for the Republican Party nowadays do so not out of some philosophical devotion to Edmund Burke or to market liberalism, but to "STICKING IT TO TEH LIBZ!!!!"

[Joey1996]

He's the reactionary demogague conservatives wish they could be.

[Joey1996]

I really doubt 20% of Black boys would have voted for Trump? Gen Z will be a bigger scapegoat than millennials

[Tekken_Guy]

Pat Buchanan is correct. I think that's part of why Trump generated such enthusiasm from young white males fed up with SJWs. The graph is from a survey of something like 100,000 high school students in 47 states.

There's no way he did 70% with white girls.

[junior chįmp]

Trump's just in it to enrich himself and feed his ego.

The GOP puts up with him because he has no morals and will let them appoint neo segregationists to the courts in a fledgling attempt at keeping their failed governing and cultural philosophy from being totally wiped out immediately.

The dumbasses in the GOP intelegestia will wrote articles like this ascribing Trump's "grand victory" to what they want to be true (despite the fact that Trump and Hillary got less votes in states Trump won going back to 2000)

Trump's victory is like a song with mysterious lyrics where everyone ascribes their own meaning to the lyrics. If your Red pill, you'll say Trump won because America is sick of SJW's. If your a crusty old Boomer, you'll attribute his victory to people thinking Obama was too far left. If your a free marketer, you'll attribute his victory to Obamanomics, etc etc...

The funny thing is his victory was a fluke with Hillary being such a godamn terrible candidate that black turnout plummeted to 1988 Dukkakis levels in some states....and despite that, Trump still got negative 3 million votes.

[KingSweden]

Does anyone else here think krazen’s obsessive thing with white liberals is kinda creepy?

[Holy Unifying Centrist]

Pat Buchanan is correct. I think that's part of why Trump generated such enthusiasm from young white males fed up with SJWs. The graph is from a survey of something like 100,000 high school students in 47 states.

How come Trump did hot garbage among young whites? He only won them by 4, whereas generic republican won them by a bigger margin. Clearly he isn't doing that fantastic w/ them!

And that Gen Z survey means garbage lol. They aren't 18 yet and I doubt the methodology. I was a Republican until I was 17 (well, technically I'm still a registered Republican).

[dead0man]

He's super sensitive, full of himself, at least a little stupid, has the unwarranted self confidence of Jeremy Piven and wants to shut people down that disagree with him.  He IS a progressive.

[Beet]

I really doubt 20% of Black boys would have voted for Trump? Gen Z will be a bigger scapegoat than millennials

I remember canvassing in late August and a whole class of black kids walked by me, and a group of the boys started talking the election when they saw my voter registration pad. One of them shouted, into the air as if to no one in particular, "Who should be president?" For a moment, there was silence, a pregnant pause that hung in the air like a coin that has been tossed but not yet landed. Then another boy yelled "Trump." A simple word that pierced the brief silence. These were all black boys. The strange thing is, I understood it. The kid yelled Trump not because he had any investment in the Republican party, but because Trump was a wave maker, a showman, a meme. And the meme always comes to mind first. Kids are like that... their minds are free and open, untainted by past associations or loyalties or knowledge about what they should believe given which side they are on and how they should interpret things. They grasp at the first thing available, and Trump as a cultural phenomenon was available. Hence, "Trump." Whereas Clinton was never a cultural phenomenon except as a villain; as a harbinger of the establishment. To choose Clinton a teen needs to go through the mental steps... I am a Democrat, and the Democrats nominated Clinton, therefore I should stay with my side and pick Clinton. The Democrats would have done far better among the young with Bernie Sanders, just as Melenchon did best among the youth in France.

[super6646]

Pat Buchanan is correct. I think that's part of why Trump generated such enthusiasm from young white males fed up with SJWs. The graph is from a survey of something like 100,000 high school students in 47 states.

That gender gap with minorities is especially profound...

[Beet]

In minority cultures there is a lot of toxic masculinity that does not get called out. Minority females are dealing with both racism and sexism, and they often prefer to focus on the racism, so sexism from minority males tends to go less challenged. Secondly, minority females are aware that minority males are also struggling with racism, so they will let more stuff slide than they otherwise would. Third, minority females know that whites tend to be more punitive about sexism when the perpetrator is a minority male, so they are more hesitant to expose the minority male to those charges. As I suspected, Trump's gain among Hispanics was almost entirely driven by the men. Among Hispanic women he did as bad as Mitt Romney.