Trump openly runs on racism/sexism, beats Sanders in 2020, then what?

[Blue3]

Let's say that during the 2020 election, Trump stoops to a new low.

He decides to proclaim, in a very Trumpian way, "I'm a racist, I'm a sexist, so what? I love black people, Hispanic people, very much, but who wouldn't rather be white? Being white is great. I love women, believe me, they can't get enough of me, but men are obviously smarter, and stronger." Etc. He even jokes about repealing the 13 and 19th amendments, and repealing civil rights.

Bernie Sanders wins the Democratic nomination. Health and age aren't issues, on either side. The media and polls think Bernie will definitely win.

Then... Trump wins. Again. But this time, not only the Electoral College, but a few whole points in the popular vote too.

Where would the Democratic Party go in 2024 and beyond? Where would the Republican Party go?

[Dr. MB]

Spencer 2024?

Also, there's no way he'd win just by winning the white male vote.

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

Spencer 2024?

Also, there's no way he'd win just by winning the white male vote.

Yeah, if Trump went down this route, he'd get wiped out by almost any competent Democrat. I don't think he's dumb enough to be that openly bigoted though

[Blue3]

Unfortunately, I know of conservative women who fight  (yes, actually fight) for the idea that men are the superior sex.

[TheSaint250]

This scenario is 100% not going to happen in any way, shape, or form.

[Blue3]

This scenario is 100% not going to happen in any way, shape, or form.

But IF it did, what would the results be for each party? I'm not asking how likely.

[YE]

Probably something like John Bel Edwards 2024.

[catographer]

i think the real question is, is there a red line for republicans on trump? what would have to happen for them to dump trump? for him to lose?

[bagelman]

Well, if you think that Trump's win in 2016 was shocking and provoking, 2020 would be terrifying. The country would truly enter a societal crises. Radical ideas would begin to be openly discussed: neoliberals would want to abolish democracy and establish a technocracy, racial separatism would be discussed among progressive minority groups.

Democrats, however, would blame Bernie for being too economically populist - and this may be a situation where I honestly couldn't even blame them. They'd nominate a progressive sounding neoliberal to challenge the GOP in '24, and that election would be seen as the last stand for a liberal society against a reactionary movement only getting stronger...

[Unapologetic Chinaperson]

Well, if you think that Trump's win in 2016 was shocking and provoking, 2020 would be terrifying. The country would truly enter a societal crises. Radical ideas would begin to be openly discussed: neoliberals would want to abolish democracy and establish a technocracy, racial separatism would be discussed among progressive minority groups.

Democrats, however, would blame Bernie for being too economically populist - and this may be a situation where I honestly couldn't even blame them. They'd nominate a progressive sounding neoliberal to challenge the GOP in '24, and that election would be seen as the last stand for a liberal society against a reactionary movement only getting stronger...

Why? Why is it always a dichotomy between "socially progressive neoliberals" and "WWC-focused progressives?" Diversity, contrary to popular Atlasian belief, is not a luxury afforded only to the rich.

The next Democrat will look at the mistakes Sanders made and appeal to the grievances of the most disadvantaged in our country - minorities, poor people, etc. - while maintaining a stalwart economically leftist platform. They may even dabble in socialism. By 2020 we would have 4 years to see the destruction Republican economic policies have caused. By 2024 we would have 8. And everybody will be pretty angry.

[bagelman]

Well, if you think that Trump's win in 2016 was shocking and provoking, 2020 would be terrifying. The country would truly enter a societal crises. Radical ideas would begin to be openly discussed: neoliberals would want to abolish democracy and establish a technocracy, racial separatism would be discussed among progressive minority groups.

Democrats, however, would blame Bernie for being too economically populist - and this may be a situation where I honestly couldn't even blame them. They'd nominate a progressive sounding neoliberal to challenge the GOP in '24, and that election would be seen as the last stand for a liberal society against a reactionary movement only getting stronger...

Why? Why is it always a dichotomy between "socially progressive neoliberals" and "WWC-focused progressives?" Diversity, contrary to popular Atlasian belief, is not a luxury afforded only to the rich.

The next Democrat will look at the mistakes Sanders made and appeal to the grievances of the most disadvantaged in our country - minorities, poor people, etc. - while maintaining a stalwart economically leftist platform. They may even dabble in socialism. By 2020 we would have 4 years to see the destruction Republican economic policies have caused. By 2024 we would have 8. And everybody will be pretty angry.

Because the Democratic establishment, who are upper class people, will look at Sanders losing and think that maybe the problem was upper class people being threatened by redistributionism.

The shape of the electoral map in this scenario would determine which one of us is right.

[Deblano]

Well, if you think that Trump's win in 2016 was shocking and provoking, 2020 would be terrifying. The country would truly enter a societal crises. Radical ideas would begin to be openly discussed: neoliberals would want to abolish democracy and establish a technocracy, racial separatism would be discussed among progressive minority groups.

Democrats, however, would blame Bernie for being too economically populist - and this may be a situation where I honestly couldn't even blame them. They'd nominate a progressive sounding neoliberal to challenge the GOP in '24, and that election would be seen as the last stand for a liberal society against a reactionary movement only getting stronger...

That scenario is horrifying to even imagine.

[Beet]

The left would try to rise up in a violent revolt, but be defeated militarily due to being massively outgunned. A Trumpist "Reconstruction" regime rules the country for the next 40 years.

[Mr. Smith]

A recession hits in the mid 2020's, Democrats create a 2014 in 2022 to 2018's 2010 and 2024 ends up being a landslide against Pence or Cruz or what have you.

[Unapologetic Chinaperson]

Well, if you think that Trump's win in 2016 was shocking and provoking, 2020 would be terrifying. The country would truly enter a societal crises. Radical ideas would begin to be openly discussed: neoliberals would want to abolish democracy and establish a technocracy, racial separatism would be discussed among progressive minority groups.

Democrats, however, would blame Bernie for being too economically populist - and this may be a situation where I honestly couldn't even blame them. They'd nominate a progressive sounding neoliberal to challenge the GOP in '24, and that election would be seen as the last stand for a liberal society against a reactionary movement only getting stronger...

Why? Why is it always a dichotomy between "socially progressive neoliberals" and "WWC-focused progressives?" Diversity, contrary to popular Atlasian belief, is not a luxury afforded only to the rich.

The next Democrat will look at the mistakes Sanders made and appeal to the grievances of the most disadvantaged in our country - minorities, poor people, etc. - while maintaining a stalwart economically leftist platform. They may even dabble in socialism. By 2020 we would have 4 years to see the destruction Republican economic policies have caused. By 2024 we would have 8. And everybody will be pretty angry.

Because the Democratic establishment, who are upper class people, will look at Sanders losing and think that maybe the problem was upper class people being threatened by redistributionism.

The shape of the electoral map in this scenario would determine which one of us is right.

Dude, if this scenario happens everybody's going to have bigger problems than "redistributionism."

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

A recession hits in the mid 2020's, Democrats create a 2014 in 2022 to 2018's 2010 and 2024 ends up being a landslide against Pence or Cruz or what have you.

[TML]

I think this scenario is only possible if Sanders becomes tainted by scandal.

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

The left would try to rise up in a violent revolt, but be defeated militarily due to being massively outgunned. A Trumpist "Reconstruction" regime rules the country for the next 40 years.

Honestly, this is tinfoil hat-level paranoia.

[Not a Partisan Hack ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)]

I'm so sick and tired of these posts constantly telling me about this. Other presidents have done bad things before. Quit reminding the damn atlas about this stuff please. It really adds nothing to this political forum.