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Question: Which map looks best
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Current Republican map
 
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Democratic map, which maximizes minority representation and best reflects state partisan makeup
 
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Most competitive map
 
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Algorithmic compact map
 
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Algorithmic compact map that respects county borders
 
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« on: January 26, 2018, 12:50:39 AM »

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/redistricting-maps/alabama/

This poll series is simple: you choose which of the unique maps for each state looks the best to you.

For Alabama, I'm voting option 5. The Democratic map has district 1 cut in half by Mobile Bay, so they can get the GOP parts of Mobile county in with Baldwin and the rest of south AL.
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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2018, 01:02:22 AM »

Map 5 is not drawn by an algorithm.

You can create a whole-county minority district in the Black Belt.
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2018, 02:20:27 AM »

Hmm, I wonder how many people will jokingly vote majmin once we get to Arkansas.
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2018, 03:35:22 AM »

This message includes whole county districts and a minority district in the Black Belt. The Jefferson County district should be competitive.


An advantage of the current map is that by extending up through Tuscaloosa and into Birmingham, is that it lets the southeastern district extend westward. The loss of the 7th district in 2020 will eliminate that problem, and also could permit a no split counties plan.

A different way of scoring the plans would let Alabamians rank the plans based on which district they would be placed in. That is rather than judging the whole map, they would only look at their self interest.

Their ranking of their districts would be their ranking of the overall plan. The final plan would be chosen by Condorcet.
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2018, 07:07:20 AM »

Option 5.
Hmm, I wonder how many people will jokingly vote majmin once we get to Arkansas.
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2018, 04:08:39 AM »

Option 2 is the best, but the current map isn't all that terrible.
I don't like water contiguity being used though. There should be a tendril of land...
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2018, 08:30:17 AM »

5, though option 1 is also not bad. I personally prefer 2 competitive elections over 1 majority minority district though I can see why people would prefer the opposite.
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2018, 10:42:51 AM »

There was a lengthy thread in 2013 about how to accommodate the AL Black Belt in the muon rules. One of the plans that emerged was this one that reduced chops to just Jefferson and created a minority district that could be won with crossover voters as well as a second highly competitive district.



Deviation and demographics:
CD 1: +2428
CD 2: +877
CD 3: +909
CD 4: -2955
CD 5: +1181
CD 6: +935; BVAP 43.6%; 2008 D+4
CD 7:  -3372; BVAP. 46.0%; 2008 R+1
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2018, 04:44:55 AM »

There was a lengthy thread in 2013 about how to accommodate the AL Black Belt in the muon rules. One of the plans that emerged was this one that reduced chops to just Jefferson and created a minority district that could be won with crossover voters as well as a second highly competitive district.



Deviation and demographics:
CD 1: +2428
CD 2: +877
CD 3: +909
CD 4: -2955
CD 5: +1181
CD 6: +935; BVAP 43.6%; 2008 D+4
CD 7:  -3372; BVAP. 46.0%; 2008 R+1
Great map.
Where was the thread?
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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2018, 09:07:03 AM »

The 2013 discussion about AL was from the long thread where jimrtex developed the standards for county clusters (the final result became a sticky thread). The discussion about AL starts here, but there are general posts about the clusters interspersed. The post with the map I used here appeared after many pages of discussion in the thread.
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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2018, 01:53:06 PM »

Compact with county borders. Jefferson county should obviously be its own district (plus a few extra precincts as needed to reach population parity).
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