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« Reply #875 on: October 15, 2023, 02:00:22 PM »

Polls are now closed....now we wait.
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« Reply #876 on: October 15, 2023, 02:01:46 PM »

9 p.m. IPSOS EXIT POLL

PIS 36.8% - 200 seats
KO 31.6% - 163 seats
TD 13% - 55 seats
Lewica 8.6% - 30 seats
KON 6.2% - 12 seats
BEZ 2.4% - 0 seats

KO + TD + Lewica MAJORITY
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« Reply #877 on: October 15, 2023, 02:02:42 PM »

lol Konfa
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« Reply #878 on: October 15, 2023, 02:03:44 PM »

9 p.m. IPSOS EXIT POLL

PIS 36.8% - 200 seats
KO 31.6% - 163 seats
TD 13% - 55 seats
Lewica 8.6% - 30 seats
KON 6.2% - 12 seats

KO + TD + Lewica MAJORITY

After Slovakia's exit polls being wrong, I'm being cautious. (Different countries, different quality of polling and all, I know.) But this would be a great result.
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« Reply #879 on: October 15, 2023, 02:04:13 PM »

What about projected turnout??
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« Reply #880 on: October 15, 2023, 02:05:37 PM »

72.9% highest ever in democratic Poland
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« Reply #881 on: October 15, 2023, 02:06:21 PM »

9 p.m. IPSOS EXIT POLL

PIS 36.8% - 200 seats
KO 31.6% - 163 seats
TD 13% - 55 seats
Lewica 8.6% - 30 seats
KON 6.2% - 12 seats
BES 2.4% - 0 seats

KO + TD + Lewica MAJORITY

Unless this is really wrong (which history says it won't hopefully)...that shouldn't be safe from fluctuations of a percent or two. Confederation falling again below the effective threshold in a bunch of constituencies screws not just them, but also PiS who now needs their votes. It also saves Lewica who could be losing a lot more if Confederation didn't plummet.

If things do change, its going to be because of how and if seats are apportioned to Lewica and Confederation in various constituencies, lets keep an eye on that during the court.
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« Reply #882 on: October 15, 2023, 02:10:00 PM »



Let's hope we have a change in power.
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« Reply #883 on: October 15, 2023, 02:11:20 PM »

Beautiful result, if the exits are true. Will PiS accept the result?
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« Reply #884 on: October 15, 2023, 02:11:43 PM »

Skeptical about Konfederacja being that low but there could have been a last-minute flight to PiS.
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« Reply #885 on: October 15, 2023, 02:12:19 PM »

Is there anywhere where live results are available?
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« Reply #886 on: October 15, 2023, 02:13:27 PM »

Beautiful result, if the exits are true. Will PiS accept the result?

Based on this statement from Kaczynski, it appears so.



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« Reply #887 on: October 15, 2023, 02:14:45 PM »

Another exit poll:


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« Reply #888 on: October 15, 2023, 02:15:20 PM »

Did they show a map which party won which Voivodeships??
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« Reply #889 on: October 15, 2023, 02:15:27 PM »

So last minute Kon -> PiS and PiS -> TD voter movement? Or perhaps Kon -> TD directly? Or perhaps just related to turnout vs. abstention numbers across various bases. In any case, I think Tusk is right in that this election can be called for the left.
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« Reply #890 on: October 15, 2023, 02:16:11 PM »

KKKonfederacja getting less than 2019 (IIRC they got like 7%) after all this fanfare would be a hilarious result.
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« Reply #891 on: October 15, 2023, 02:17:47 PM »

What would be the most likely coalition with this exit poll? PiS might lose power even in when they come in first, though I'm not sure whether Tusk can actually put a majority together.

But it seems like polls were relatively accurate. Polling still works in Europe, unlike in the US.
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« Reply #892 on: October 15, 2023, 02:18:19 PM »

Is there anywhere where live results are available?

National Electoral Commission:
https://wybory.gov.pl/sejmsenat2023/en/
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« Reply #893 on: October 15, 2023, 02:18:46 PM »

What would be the most likely coalition with this exit poll? PiS might lose power even in when they come in first, though I'm not sure whether Tusk can actually put a majority together.

But it seems like polls were relatively accurate. Polling still works in Europe, unlike in the US.

KO-TD-Lewica already said they'd work together. The exit polls show a 99% chance of them getting a combined majority.
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« Reply #894 on: October 15, 2023, 02:20:52 PM »

Interesting exit poll, but remember: the only country where you can be absolutely sure that the exit poll = the result is France.
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« Reply #895 on: October 15, 2023, 02:26:56 PM »

Interesting exit poll, but remember: the only country where you can be absolutely sure that the exit poll = the result is France.

That's because it isn't an exit poll, but a partial vote count.
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« Reply #896 on: October 15, 2023, 02:27:29 PM »

Did either of the exits bother on the four referendums? Though i can probably guess the results in at least 2.
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« Reply #897 on: October 15, 2023, 02:29:39 PM »

Did either of the exits bother on the 4 four referendum? Though i can probably guess the results in at least 2.
They only say that turnout for the referendum is 40% (you're allowed to reject the referendum ballots), which means that it is non binding.
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« Reply #898 on: October 15, 2023, 02:40:06 PM »

Do we already have some Exit poll numbers split by age, education, gender and so on??
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« Reply #899 on: October 15, 2023, 02:41:43 PM »

Interesting exit poll, but remember: the only country where you can be absolutely sure that the exit poll = the result is France.

And Netherlands and UK.
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