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« on: January 25, 2018, 01:13:16 PM »

How would you like to have seen the past five presidential elections end up? The rules are simple: any primary or general election candidate from either of the two major political parties can be the winner. No third party candidates or anyone who didn't run in the primaries allowed. While you can be creative, being realistic makes it more, well, real (for example, having a Republican win Massachusetts isn't realistic).

Here's mine:

2016:
Rand Paul (R) 57% 312 EV
Bernie Sanders (D) 42% 226 EV


2012:
Ron Paul (R) 60% 353 EV
Barack Obama (D) 39% 185 EV


2008:
Ron Paul (R) 60% 353 EV
Hillary Clinton (D) 39% 185 EV


2004:
George W. Bush (R) 53% 338 EV
John Edwards (D) 46% 200 EV


2000:
Steve Forbes (R) 55% 316 EV
Al Gore (D) 44% 222 EV
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2018, 01:19:02 PM »

I'm sorry, but if Ron Paul is clearing 60% both times, he's getting more than 353 EVs.
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2018, 01:25:05 PM »



For just 2016:

Bernie Sanders/Sherrod Brown: 423 EV, 57.28%

Rand Paul/Jim Gilmore: 115 EV, 40.83%
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2018, 08:25:43 PM »

2008

Mike Gravel 398
Mike Huckabee 140

2016

Bernie Sanders 389
Scott Walker 149
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2018, 08:26:11 PM »



For just 2016:

Bernie Sanders/Sherrod Brown: 423 EV, 57.28%

Rand Paul/Jim Gilmore: 115 EV, 40.83%

If Mississippi's voting Sanders, then NH is voting Sanders.
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2018, 08:29:16 PM »



For just 2016:

Bernie Sanders/Sherrod Brown: 423 EV, 57.28%

Rand Paul/Jim Gilmore: 115 EV, 40.83%

If Mississippi's voting Sanders, then NH is voting Sanders.

I know, it's not meant to be realistic. Just idealism. Texas and Virginia would also flip though realistically.
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2018, 08:46:40 PM »

2000:



Gore wins the EV 403-135 and the PV  by 12%.


2004:



President Gore wins a historic landslide reelection after sucsesfully capturing Bin Laden and waging a popular war against the Taliban and Al-Quida.




2008:




Hillary Clinton wallops John McCain.




2012:



Former New York Governor George Pataki easily defeats Hillary.



2016:



President Pataki easily defeats Bernie Sanders in a massive landslide.
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2018, 07:40:56 AM »

2016:



President Pataki easily defeats Bernie Sanders in a massive landslide.
I'm sorry, but Boyknee would still win Vermont.
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2018, 03:23:46 PM »

2016:



President Pataki easily defeats Bernie Sanders in a massive landslide.
I'm sorry, but Boyknee would still win Vermont.
You're right, I meant to give it to Sanders.
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2018, 04:25:55 PM »

2000:


Vice President Al Gore (D-TN)\Senator Bob Graham (D-FL): 49.4% (296 EV) ✓
Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)\Secretary Dick Cheney (R-WY): 47.3% (242 EV)

2004:


Fmr. Governor Howard Dean (D-VT)\Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN): 51.2% (327 EV) ✓
President George W. Bush (R-TX)\Vice President Dick Cheney (R-WY): 47.8% (211 EV)

2008:


Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)\Senator Joe Biden (D-DE): 58.4% (400 EV) ✓
Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR)\Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK): 39.8% (138 EV)

2012:


Former Governor Jon Huntsman (R-UT)\Governor Brian Sandoval (R-NV): 49.5% (272 EV) ✓
President Barack Obama (D-IL)\Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE): 49.4% (266 EV)

2016:



Secretary Hillary Clinton (D-NY)\Senator Martin Heinrich (D-NM): 52.2% (430 EV) ✓
Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY)\Governor Chris Christie (R-NY): 35.1% (98 EV)
Former Governor Jon Huntsman (R-UT)\Former CIA Officer Evan McMullin (R-ID): 8.7% (10 EV)
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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2018, 10:04:59 AM »
« Edited: January 31, 2018, 02:01:01 PM by sverkol »

2000:


Vice President Al Gore (D-TN)\Governor Jean Shaeen (D-NH): 49.8% (281 EV) ✓
Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)\Secretary Dick Cheney (R-WY): 47.1% (256 EV)

2004:


Fmr. Governor Howard Dean (D-VT)\Majority Leader Dick Gephardt (D-OH): 48.6% (288 EV) ✓
President George W. Bush (R-TX)\Vice President Dick Cheney (R-WY): 49.7% (249 EV)

2008:


Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)\Senator Joseph Biden (D-DE): 52.7% (413 EV) ✓
Former NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY)\Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK): 44.5% (125 EV)

2012:



President Barack Obama (D-IL)\Vice President Joseph Biden (D-DE): 55.7% (487 EV) ✓

Former Seanter Rick Santorum(R-PA)/Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich (R-GA): 41.3% (51 EV)

2016:



Senator Bernard Sanders (D-VT)\Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-MN): 47.5% (317 EV) ✓
Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY)\Governor Michael pence (R-IN): 43.1% (208 EV)
Former CIA Officer Evan McMullin  (I-UT)\Businesswoman Mindy Finn (I-TX): 1.8% (6 EV)
               
Businessman Michael Bloomberg (I-NY)/Former Senater Joseph Lieberman (I-CT) :5.7%
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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2018, 11:43:02 AM »

2000:



Mr. Donald Trump (I-NY)/Gov. Jesse Ventura (I-MN): 40.8% (272 EV) ✔
Gov. George W. Bush (R-TX)/Fmr. Sec of Defense Dick Cheney: 36.2% (191 EV)
VP Al Gore (D-TN)/Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-CT): 23%

2004:



Pres. Donald Trump (I-NY)/VP Jesse Ventura (I-MN): 46.5% (307 EV) ✔
Alan Keyes (R-MD)/Sen. Orion Hatch (R-UT): 32.5% (165 EV)
Sen. John Kerry (D-MA)/Fmr. Gov. Gray Davis (D-CA): 21% (66 EV)

2008:



Fmr. Gov. Don Sundquist (R-TN)/Fmr. Rep. New Gingrich (R-GA): 50.1% (269 EV) ✔
Fmr. Gov. Howard Dean (D-VT)/Fmr. Gov. Ted Strickland (D-OH): 49.9% (269 EV)

2012:



Pres. Don Sundquist (R-TN)/VP Newt Gingrich (R-GA): 52.3% (292 EV) ✔
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL): 47.7% (246 EV)

2016:



VP Newt Gingrich (R-GA)/Gov. John Kasich (R-OH): 54.5% (340 EV) ✔
Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA): 45.5% (198 EV)


Ventura didn't run in 2008 due to age.
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2018, 01:08:44 PM »

2000:  Same as OTL

United States presidential election, 2004


(✓) Senator John Edwards (D-NC) / Senator John Kerry (D-MA) - 274 Electoral Votes, 48.4%
President George W. Bush (R-TX) / Vice President Dick Cheney (R-WY) - 264 Electoral Votes, 50.2%

United States presidential election, 2008


(✓) Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA) / Governor Tim Pawlenty (R-MN) - 388 Electoral Votes, 53.3%
President John Edwards (D-NC) / Vice President John Kerry (D-MA) - 160 Electoral Votes, 45.1%

United States presidential election, 2012

(✓) President Mitt Romney / Vice President Tim Pawlenty (R-MN) - 296 Electoral Votes, 50.6%
Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Governor Jay Nixon (D-MO) - 242 Electoral Votes, 47.7%

United States presidential election, 2016

(✓) Former President George W. Bush (R-TX) / Governor Nikki Haley (R-SC) - 285 Electoral Votes, 49.7%
Businessman Donald Trump (D-NY) / Governor Dan Kildee (D-MI) - 253 Electoral Votes, 45.7%
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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2018, 02:54:49 PM »

2000 Presidential Election



Vice President Al Gore (D-TN)/Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-CT): 292 EV, 48.6% PV

Gov. George W. Bush (R-TX)/Sec. Dick Cheney (R-WY): 246 EV, 47.4 PV

2004 Presidential Election



President Al Gore (D-TN)/V.P. Joe Lieberman (D-CT): 336 EV, 51.4% PV
Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)/Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-MN): 202 EV, 46.1 PV

2008 Presidential Election



Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)/Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE): 368 EV, 53.4% PV
Fmr. Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-AR): 170 EV, 44.2% PV

2012 Presidential Election



President Barack Obama (D-IL)/V.P. Joe Biden (D-DE): 405 EV, 56.1% PV
Fmr. Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA)/Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX): 133 EV, 41.7% PV

2016 Presidential Election




Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-OH): 377 EV, 53.4% PV

Fmr. Gov. Chris Christie (R-NJ)/Fmr. Gov. George Pataki (R-NY): 151 EV, 40.2% PV

Fmr. CIA Officer Evan McMullin (I-UT)/Businesswoman Mindy Finn (I-TX): 10 EV,
2.8% PV

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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2022, 04:03:16 AM »
« Edited: May 13, 2022, 11:12:08 AM by Atomic-Statism »

Dunking on boomer conservatives forever. No good options in 2004.

2008

Fmr. Senator Mike Gravel (D-AK) / Senator Bernie Sanders (D-VT) ✓
Senator John McCain (R-AZ) / Governor Tim Pawlenty (R-MN)

2012

President Mike Gravel (D-AK) / Vice President Bernie Sanders (D-VT) ✓
Fmr. Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA) / Congressman Paul Ryan (R-WI)

2016

Vice President Bernie Sanders (D-VT) / Senator Sherrod Brown (D-OH) ✓
Fmr. Governor Jeb Bush (R-FL) / Governor Nikki Haley (R-SC)

2020

President Bernie Sanders (D-VT) / Vice President Sherrod Brown (D-OH) ✓
Fmr. Governor Bill Weld (R-MA) / Fmr. Governor Mike Pence (R-IN)
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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2022, 03:57:52 PM »

2000:

PV: Gore +3.4%

2004:

PV: Gore +9.8%

2008:

PV: Romney +0.5%

2012:

PV: Clinton +0.9%

2016:

PV: Obama +13.9%

2020:

PV: Obama +21.1%

Al Gore/Joe Lieberman (D): January 20, 2001-January 20, 2009
Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan (R): January 20, 2009-January 20, 2017
Barack Obama/Joe Biden (D): January 20, 2017-Present
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« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2022, 09:36:19 AM »

2004:

2008:

2012:

2016:

2020:


1-42: OTL
43: George Bush(1-20-2001 to 5-10-2005)
44: Dick Cheney(5-10-2005 to 1-20-2009)
45: Barack Obama(1-20-2009 to 1-20-2017)
46: Bernie Sanders(1-20-2017 to 2-20-2025)
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« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2022, 06:41:44 PM »

Hillary Clinton 538-0 against Donald Trump, every single time.
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« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2022, 09:34:14 PM »

Honestly this is more of an alternate history but here goes nothing

2000



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2016



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« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2022, 08:16:02 PM »

2000:



Vice President Albert A. Gore Jr. (D-TN) / Governor Robert Graham (D-FL) - 291 EVs, 49%
Governor George W. Bush (R-TX) / Sec. Dick Cheney (R-WY) - 246 EVs, 47%





Governor Howard Dean (D-VT) / Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) - 278 EVs, 50%
President George W. Bush (R-TX) / Vice President Richard B. Cheney (R-WY) - 259 EVs, 48%



Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) / Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-DE) - 350 EVs, 52%
Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) / Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR) - 188 EVs, 45%



Fmr. Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA) / Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) - 292 EVs, 49%
President Barack Obama (D-IL) / Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-DE) - 246 EVs, 48%



Governor John Kasich (R-OH) / Governor Brian Sandoval (R-NV) - 343 EVs, 51%
Senator Bernie Sanders (D-MN) / Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) - 195 EVs, 46%




Senator Bernie Sanders (D-VT) / Senator Krysten Sinema (D-OH) - 270 EVs, 50%
President Donald J. Trump (R-FL) / Vice President Mike Pence (R-IN) - 268 EVs, 48%
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