Sharia courts in Ontario?

[dazzleman]

How so? I'm complete pro-feminist and supportive of women's rights. I'm pro-choice and pro-ERA. I argue with dazzleman over his obsessive sick hatred of feminists all the time. Part of the reason I rag on the Catholic church all the time is they're not allowing women's ordination, and my opposition to Islam is largely based on how awful they treat women.

I support Sharia law in the US because I think Islamic courts will chop off the feminists' fingers.

[dazzleman]

How so?

Because your either a misogynist or doing a very good impersonation of one

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And yet you spend a lot of money in strip clubs don't you?

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And that has anything to do with, what?

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The irony there is amusing, I'll give you that

Haven't you figured out that mindlessly mouthing feminist slogans, as well as questioning the mental health of anybody who questions them, means a person is not a mysoginist?  You must be slow or something.

I had the temerity to question that fact that NOW strongly condemns the same behavior in men that it defends in women, and pointed out that NOW set up a fund to support Andrea Yates, who killed all her children.  For that, I am a sick and obsessive hater.  Those who can't handle a philosophy being questioned in any way clearly can't be very comfortable with that philosophy.

In any case, very good points, Al.

[dazzleman]

Haven't you figured out that mindlessly mouthing feminist slogans, as well as questioning the mental health of anybody who questions them, means a person is not a mysoginist?  You must be slow or something.

I had the temerity to question that fact that NOW strongly condemns the same behavior in men that it defends in women, and pointed out that NOW set up a fund to support Andrea Yates, who killed all her children.  For that, I am a sick and obsessive hater.  Those who can't handle a philosophy being questioned in any way clearly can't be very comfortable with that philosophy.

In any case, very good points, Al.

No your problem is you can't figure out that not all feminists are like NOW, for example ultra-liberal feminist Betty Dodson has written articles attacking them and other "feminists" (I don't consider many of these true feminists because they actually support restricting women's rights) for being anti-male. She's also pro-porn.

I have no problem with equity feminists, as opposed to gender feminists, like NOW.  But the dominant strain of feminism is the gender feminism promulgated by NOW, and when I speak of feminism, it is that strain that I'm talking about.

Quite honestly, I'm not that interested in the whole issue as an academic pursuit, so I don't follow all the different strains of feminism closely.  But I do follow it closely enough to see the lies and hypocrisy behind NOW's positions on most issues.  NOW uses the lie that it supports equality to make it difficult to oppose their agenda of discrimination.

There are all types of feminists, even some who oppose abortion.  But I don't become interested until they start advocating discrimination against men, which NOW most definitely does.  I used to be a supporter of feminism, but gradually turned against it as I woke up to the reality of it.

And for the record, I haven't written 1/10 as much about feminism as you have about suburbs and strip clubs.

[dazzleman]

Then if you are even willing to admit this, then you should quit tarring all feminists with such a broad brush. you should realize most third wavers are actually pro-sex and largely not man-hating yet still quite liberal politically, and this is the most dominant form today, it just so happens that the old second wavers and radical feminists still make the most noise. But they are a rather small minority.

I don't like the politics of special interests.  I am neither a masculinist nor a feminist, but a humanist.  I don't agree with you that the man-haters are a small minority of feminists, but if that's what you think, fine.

In general, I'm not interested in politics based upon ethnic group, race or gender.  I just hate that whole brand of politics, and I don't find endless academic arguments about the status of women, or men for that matter, very interesting.

I have to question why you feel so compelled to defend the honor of feminists, when you make broad-brush attacks against a lot of people yourself.  Why do find feminism to be so deserving of your defense?

[dazzleman]

(did I spell defacate right?)

no -- it's defecate...

[dazzleman]

ah, thanks.

I think I may have also misspelled Ferengi. 

well that I wouldn't know...