New PA Maps In Effect

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

The actual "votes" of the justices will never be known. "No noted dissent" is pretty common when a case is denied to be heard. One thing that was really pushed in my Constitutional Law class in college is that the Court refusing to hear a case does not mean they are endorsing the lower court's decision. Also Alito asking for the opinion of the full Court does not mean that he supported it necessarily (remember he rejected the previous appeal.)

But I'd be willing to wager that the decision likely was unanimous to not hear it, the only likely dissenter I can see is Thomas, but even he might've declined to hear if he was sure it wouldn't change anything which was kind of obvious.

[Greedo punched first]

Who wrote the majority opinion, Roberts?

Here's the full text of the decision. Judge for yourself!

It looks like it was written by Alito.

[KingSweden]

Have to imagine similar cases start popping up in other states, too.

[junior chįmp]

Lol

https://www.twitter.com/jjabbott/status/976146950973214720

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

Lol

https://www.twitter.com/jjabbott/status/976146950973214720

They are digging a deep hole...

[Oryxslayer]

Lol

https://www.twitter.com/jjabbott/status/976146950973214720

Can't change the ruling, this is just petty revenge.

[Nyvin]

Lol

https://www.twitter.com/jjabbott/status/976146950973214720

Yeah, this won't end well for them.  How do they possibly expect to impeach them on morally sound grounds after the SCOTUS refused to stay the ruling?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Lol

https://www.twitter.com/jjabbott/status/976146950973214720

Who is "House Republicans"? Is it just a bunch of loons, or do they have leadership backing?

[Duke of York]

Lol

https://www.twitter.com/jjabbott/status/976146950973214720

Is there any chance this gets to a vote? They have the numbers to impeach although it could backfire heavily across the state if it gets voted on.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I have great doubts this actually goes anywhere.

[Duke of York]

I have great doubts this actually goes anywhere.

I would not put it past Republicans do actually do it. They've made it quite clear they dont believe in free and fair elections or the rule of law.

[Landslide Lyndon]

I suspect this goes nowhere.
But that's not because Republicans have any principles besides their insatiable hunger for power.
It's because too many of their members sit on Hillary districts and voting for this will be political seppuku.

[KingSweden]

Lol

https://www.twitter.com/jjabbott/status/976146950973214720

Who is "House Republicans"? Is it just a bunch of loons, or do they have leadership backing?

Define leadership backing. Nobody in leadership is a co-sponsor, and Turzai and Reed waved off questions about this with “We can’t comment on bills that haven’t been filed.”

[Dr. Arch]

So, how do PA Republicans plan on impeaching the Supreme Court Justices or the district court judges?

[GeorgiaModerate]

I have great doubts this actually goes anywhere.

I would not put it past Republicans do actually do it. They've made it quite clear they dont believe in free and fair elections or the rule of law.

That may be true of some, but certainly not all.  Republicans (or Democrats, or independents) are not all of the same mind, and it's only fooling oneself to assume that they are.  I agree with TimTurner that this won't go anywhere.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Lol

https://www.twitter.com/jjabbott/status/976146950973214720

Who is "House Republicans"? Is it just a bunch of loons, or do they have leadership backing?

Define leadership backing. Nobody in leadership is a co-sponsor, and Turzai and Reed waved off questions about this with “We can’t comment on bills that haven’t been filed.”

This clearly means it doesn't have backing.

[KingSweden]

Lol

https://www.twitter.com/jjabbott/status/976146950973214720

Who is "House Republicans"? Is it just a bunch of loons, or do they have leadership backing?

Define leadership backing. Nobody in leadership is a co-sponsor, and Turzai and Reed waved off questions about this with “We can’t comment on bills that haven’t been filed.”

This clearly means it doesn't have backing.

Granted those comments are from a month ago, not today.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Lol

https://www.twitter.com/jjabbott/status/976146950973214720

Who is "House Republicans"? Is it just a bunch of loons, or do they have leadership backing?

Define leadership backing. Nobody in leadership is a co-sponsor, and Turzai and Reed waved off questions about this with “We can’t comment on bills that haven’t been filed.”

This clearly means it doesn't have backing.

Granted those comments are from a month ago, not today.

...oh. How is it possible they haven't been asked again recently?

[junior chįmp]

The GOP is losing it

https://www.twitter.com/srl/status/976486969969659904

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

The GOP is losing it

https://www.twitter.com/srl/status/976486969969659904

Christ, they just keep digging that hole.

[Greedo punched first]

How long before PA House Republicans try to impeach Alito?

[gerritcole]

FF move

it's funny how gerrymandering is illegal when the gop does it but not when the libs do so; PA was gerrymandered by the dems for much of the past30-40 years, why only illegal now?

[Tartarus Sauce]

The GOP is losing it

https://www.twitter.com/srl/status/976486969969659904

RIP PA GOP state legislature majorities.

[Virginiá]

FF move

it's funny how gerrymandering is illegal when the gop does it but not when the libs do so; PA was gerrymandered by the dems for much of the past30-40 years, why only illegal now?

Was it? Looking at the partisan makeup of the legislature since 1980, it goes like this:

80s redistricting: Republicans control leg + Gov
90s redistricting: Split leg + Dem Gov
2000s redistricting: Republicans control leg + Gov
2010s redistricting: Republicans control leg + Gov


The legislative lines are by a commission which the state Supreme Court majority chooses, so Democrats could have controlled that pre-2000, but Congressional lines are drawn by the legislature. I don't see how they did that.

Most people on Atlas who are against gerrymandering are against it for both parties. Atlas has a constant college-age user base, so it's not like everyone here was also an adult in the last 3 redistricting cycles where you could possibly call out hypocrisy. The general idea is that Republicans went way too far this time as they controlled so many state governments, on top of the fact that computers have made gerrymandering a lot more effective. It's an evolution of a corrupt practice that has gotten worse with the advent of better technology and very detailed sets of data about the populace.

For me personally, I'm against gerrymandering by both parties. It's election rigging, plain and simple. I don't particularly care if Democrats got to gerrymander 2-3 times in a row before or if Republicans did, it needs to end now. This isn't an issue where you can cry out "ITS MY TURN!"

I wish someone would keep count of all the times people rehash the argument you just made. I swear I see it like once every 4-6 months.

[Tartarus Sauce]

FF move

it's funny how gerrymandering is illegal when the gop does it but not when the libs do so; PA was gerrymandered by the dems for much of the past30-40 years, why only illegal now?

Was it? Looking at the partisan makeup of the legislature since 1980, it goes like this:

80s redistricting: Republicans control leg + Gov
90s redistricting: Split leg + Dem Gov
2000s redistricting: Republicans control leg + Gov
2010s redistricting: Republicans control leg + Gov


The legislative lines are by a commission which the state Supreme Court majority chooses, so Democrats could have controlled that pre-2000, but Congressional lines are drawn by the legislature. I don't see how they did that.

Most people on Atlas who are against gerrymandering are against it for both parties. Atlas has a constant college-age user base, so it's not like everyone here was also an adult in the last 3 redistricting cycles where you could possibly call out hypocrisy. The general idea is that Republicans went way too far this time as they controlled so many state governments, on top of the fact that computers have made gerrymandering a lot more effective. It's an evolution of a corrupt practice that has gotten worse with the advent of better technology and very detailed sets of data about the populace.

For me personally, I'm against gerrymandering by both parties. It's election rigging, plain and simple. I don't particularly care if Democrats got to gerrymander 2-3 times in a row before or if Republicans did, it needs to end now. This isn't an issue where you can cry out "ITS MY TURN!"

I wish someone would keep count of all the times people rehash the argument you just made. I swear I see it like once every 4-6 months.

^This

And it's really hard to take seriously the claim that the new maps are a Dem gerrymander.