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« Reply #275 on: May 18, 2006, 02:00:20 AM »

As I understand it, the present age of consent across the Pacific Region is 18 (as a consequence of the adoption of Arizona's Statutory Code across the Region).

Under this, sex with anybody between 15 and 18 by an adult is punishable as a class 6 felony, or one year in prison. This does relax the restrictions in what I believe is a sensible manner.
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« Reply #276 on: May 18, 2006, 09:12:44 AM »

Pete, wtf is up with your avatar?

Instead of D-IN, I see this:
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« Reply #277 on: May 18, 2006, 09:32:20 AM »

I have been given omnipotence by the Gods of the internet.
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« Reply #278 on: May 18, 2006, 09:57:19 AM »

As I understand it, the present age of consent across the Pacific Region is 18 (as a consequence of the adoption of Arizona's Statutory Code across the Region).

Under this, sex with anybody between 15 and 18 by an adult is punishable as a class 6 felony, or one year in prison. This does relax the restrictions in what I believe is a sensible manner.

Again, I do believe this relaxes the horrific sex regulations, but it exapnds criminality to sexual contacts which I find unacceptable.  Besides, it does not relax the statutory penalties enough.
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« Reply #279 on: May 18, 2006, 10:07:42 AM »

It in no way "exapnds criminality" (sic) - you are simply making this up. Everything that would be illegal under this bill is already illegal in one shape or form.
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« Reply #280 on: May 18, 2006, 11:07:46 AM »

It in no way "exapnds criminality" (sic) - you are simply making this up. Everything that would be illegal under this bill is already illegal in one shape or form.

Oh please. Show me where it is illegal for a 16 yr old to consenually touch a 14 yr old in their "private areas".  Regardless of current statute, this is ridiculously oppresive.
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« Reply #281 on: May 18, 2006, 11:16:26 AM »

Title 13, Chapter 1405 and Chapter 1410 of the Arizona Revised Statutes which have been adopted as the Laws of the entire Pacific Region.
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« Reply #282 on: May 18, 2006, 03:45:42 PM »

Title 13, Chapter 1405 and Chapter 1410 of the Arizona Revised Statutes which have been adopted as the Laws of the entire Pacific Region.

Section 3 Clause 7 would expand the sexual conduct regulations to 15 and 16 yr olds.  You would also increase the penalties.  You would raise statutory rape from a class 2 felony to a class 1 by allowing life imprisonment.  A first time class 2 offense currently warrants 5 yrs.  Some rules are laxed, some toughened, but all in all  this law is just as disgusting as the Arizona statutes.
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« Reply #283 on: May 22, 2006, 01:29:08 PM »

The Pacific Pornography and Sex Crime Bill will now come to a vote.  Please vote aye, nay, or abstain.

Pacific Pornography and Sex Crime Bill
Section 1: Right to pornography
   1. All those persons of 16 years of age or older not incarcerated for crimes shall have the right to buy, possess and view pornography depicting only consenting persons of 18 years of age or older.

Section 2: Right to engage in sexual relations
   1. All those persons of 16 years of age or older not incarcerated for crimes shall have the right to give consent to engage in sexual acts, including sodomy, with other persons of 16 years of age or older.
   2. All those persons between the ages of 14 years old and 16 years old not incarcerated for crimes shall have the right to consent to engage in oral sex or mutual masturbation with persons between the ages of 14 years old and 18 years old.
   3. All those Laws criminalising solitary masturbation are repealed.
   4. All those laws outlawing particular sexual conducts based on the number of persons engaged in the conduct are hereby repealed.
   5. All those laws outlawing particular sexual conducts based on the sex, sexuality, marital status, race, religion, ancestry or nationality of those engaged in the conduct are hereby repealed.

Section 3: Definition of sex crimes
   1. Any sexual conduct with a person under the age of 14 years by a person over the age of 21 years is defined as statutory rape of the first degree.
   2. Any sexual conduct with a person under the age of 12 years by a person over the age of 18 years is defined as statutory rape of the first degree.
   3. Any sexual conduct with a person under the age of 10 years by a person over the age of 16 years is defined as statutory rape of the first degree.
   4. Any sexual conduct with a person between the ages of 14 and 16 years by a person over the age of 21 years is defined as statutory rape of the second degree.
   5. Any sexual conduct with a person between the ages of 10 and 12 years by a person between the ages of 16 and 18 years is defined as statutory rape of the second degree.
   6. Any sexual conduct with a person between the ages of 12 and 14 years by a person between the ages of 18 and 21 is defined as statutory rape of the second degree.
   7. Any sexual conduct with a person between the ages of 14 and 16 years by a person between the ages of 18 and 21 is defined as carnal sexual conduct.
   8. Any sexual conduct with a person between the ages of 12 and 14 years by a person between the ages of 16 and 18 is defined as carnal sexual conduct.
   9. Any sexual conduct, except oral sex and mutual masturbation, with a person between the ages of 14 and 16 by a person between the ages of 16 and 18 is defined as carnal sexual conduct.
  10. The clauses in this Section shall only apply to circumstances where all parties involved in the sexual conduct were willing, even though they are unable under the Law to give informed, legal consent.

Section 4: Punishment for sex crimes
   1. Those guilty of Carnal Sexual Conduct may be punished by up to six months in prison and a fine of up to $1000. If released, a person guilty of this crime shall not be placed on the Sex Offenders Register.
   2. Those guilty of Statutory Rape of the Second Degree may be punished by up to ten years in prison and a fine of up to $7500. If released a person guilty of this crime shall be placed on the Sex Offenders Register for up to twenty years.
   3. Those guilty of Statutory Rape of the First Degree may be punished by up to life in prison and an unlimited fine. If released, a person guilty of this crime shall be placed on the Sex Offenders Register for life

Section 5: Construction
   1. Nothing in Sections 3 and 4 shall be construed to amend in anyway the definitions of, or punishments for, rape where consent by one of the parties involved is not given.
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« Reply #284 on: May 23, 2006, 07:38:41 AM »

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« Reply #285 on: May 23, 2006, 11:25:03 AM »

I haven't heard anything to indicate this is a bad set of laws, so Aye.
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« Reply #286 on: May 23, 2006, 01:20:49 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #287 on: May 23, 2006, 03:46:52 PM »

There are a few bits that I don't quite like, but it's certainly an improvement over what we currently have.

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« Reply #288 on: June 02, 2006, 11:54:02 PM »

Here are two proposals I have for amendments to the Constitution.



Whereas the Pacific should follow the lead of the rest of the nation by re-adjusting the time that its elections begin.
Therefore elections shall begin at 9:00 PM Pacific Standard time on the penultimate Thursday in April and August and on the second Thursday in December and not midnight on Fridays by changing these details in Article 1: Section 2.

Whereas the four consecutive term-limit has not only proven itself unnecessary, it limits democracy and the voice of the people.
Therefore, there shall be no term limits for Governor and Lt. Governor and Article 1: Section 1 shall be stricken from the Second Pacific Constitution.
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« Reply #289 on: June 06, 2006, 11:55:24 AM »

Yeah, let's bring this to the ballot.

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« Reply #290 on: June 08, 2006, 07:46:35 AM »

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« Reply #291 on: June 08, 2006, 06:12:34 PM »

Aye for both
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« Reply #292 on: June 16, 2006, 11:44:58 AM »

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« Reply #293 on: June 18, 2006, 01:23:11 AM »

Aye on both
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« Reply #294 on: June 26, 2006, 07:54:32 PM »

Both amendments have (obviously) been passed.
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« Reply #295 on: June 30, 2006, 03:27:03 AM »

Amendment to embrace Pacifican culture

Whereas, the "Governor" of the Pacific simply presides over the legislature.
Whereas, if anything, this makes him more of a Prime Minister.
But, Prime Minister is a term more appropriate for the United Kingdom or nations more closely tied to it politically than the United States.
Whereas, Muckamuck is a term from Chinook Jargon (which was a trade language used in the Western United States in the 19th century) that meant leader.
Whereas, High Muckamuck was a very important person.
Whereas, Muckamuck has become a term nationwide to refer to politicians.
Whereas, the Pacific government needs to be more in touch with the history and culture of the Pacific Region.

Therefore, the Governor of the Pacific shall now be known as High Muckamuck of the Pacific. The Lt. Governor shall now be known as the Lt. Muckamuck.
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« Reply #296 on: June 30, 2006, 03:33:00 AM »

As with all non-controversial issues, this is going straight to voting.

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« Reply #297 on: June 30, 2006, 03:33:54 AM »

I vote aye
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« Reply #298 on: June 30, 2006, 03:35:06 AM »

Aye Smiley
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« Reply #299 on: June 30, 2006, 05:50:06 AM »

Negatory.
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