Pacific Legislature Official Thread

[Alcon]

While I understand your logic in choosing the state capitals, Albuquerque is actually way easier for most New Mexicans to get to...you can actually park sometimes.

Well, in most cases I was going to re-establish the capitals because of the negative effects on the local economies.  However, Santa Fe is decently off regardless.  Do you know how it would affect Santa Fe's economy if the government was removed?

All feedback is appreciated.  My knowledge of New Mexico is lacking.

[The Duke]

The capital is actually San Francisco.  The government offices are only in Cowtown (Sacto) to save money.

[Alcon]

The capital is actually San Francisco.  The government offices are only in Cowtown (Sacto) to save money.

Thanks for pointing that out.  I should have clarified it.  This is only administative stuff.  Sacramento is not a convenient location for obtaining historical maps and other things that cannot be made into electronic format.  Having state archives would be fairly inexpensive, help the local economies, and make it more convenient for locals.

[WMS]

While I understand your logic in choosing the state capitals, Albuquerque is actually way easier for most New Mexicans to get to...you can actually park sometimes.

Well, in most cases I was going to re-establish the capitals because of the negative effects on the local economies.  However, Santa Fe is decently off regardless.  Do you know how it would affect Santa Fe's economy if the government was removed?

All feedback is appreciated.  My knowledge of New Mexico is lacking.

Not too badly - there's a ton of left-libertarian Californian Yuppies there. Most of the government workers in Santa Fe commute from the Albuquerque Greater Metropolitan Area anyway, because it's so !@#$ing expensive to rent or buy anything in Santa Fe. This would probably improve their incomes a bit from the gas savings, if nothing else.

[Alcon]

I changed it to Albuqerque, then.  Thanks, WMS!

I doubt this will raise much objection, so unless someone minds, we'll vote on this at the same time as the other two bills (which will result in a shorter debating period).

Bestality Criminalisation Act
1. The abominable act of bestiality, which is defined as gross sexual imposition, sexual assault, or the committing of a deviant sexual act with an animal, shall be illegal throughout the Pacific Region.

2. Persons convicted of bestiality shall be fined a minimum of $500 or a maximum of $2,000 and/or sentenced to a minimum of six months in jail or a maximum of five years in jail.

3. This law should not be interpreted as banning sexual acts between members of the species homo sapiens.

[Gabu]

Bestality Criminalisation Act
1. The abominable act of bestiality, which is defined as gross sexual imposition, sexual assault, or the committing of a deviant sexual act with an animal, shall be illegal throughout the Pacific Region.

2. Persons convicted of bestiality shall be fined a minimum of $500 or a maximum of $2,000 and/or sentenced to a minimum of six months in jail or a maximum of five years in jail.

3. This law should not be interpreted as banning sexual acts between members of the species homo sapiens.

Technically speaking, if section 3 is needed to exclude sexual acts between members of the species homo sapiens from falling under this bill, would it not be the case that this bill will ban sexual acts between all other species (i.e., rabbits will be charged with bestiality for going at it)?

[Kevin]

   You just can't oppose this admemdment because a human having sex with an animal is like molsesting a baby.   

[Alcon]

Bestality Criminalisation Act
1. The abominable act of bestiality, which is defined as gross sexual imposition, sexual assault, or the committing of a deviant sexual act with an animal, shall be illegal throughout the Pacific Region.

2. Persons convicted of bestiality shall be fined a minimum of $500 or a maximum of $2,000 and/or sentenced to a minimum of six months in jail or a maximum of five years in jail.

3. This law should not be interpreted as banning sexual acts between members of the species homo sapiens.

Technically speaking, if section 3 is needed to exclude sexual acts between members of the species homo sapiens from falling under this bill, would it not be the case that this bill will ban sexual acts between all other species (i.e., rabbits will be charged with bestiality for going at it)?

I'm reasonably sure animals can't be charged with crimes.

[WMS]

I changed it to Albuqerque, then.  Thanks, WMS!

Take that, you Santa Fe Yuppie Scum! No problem.

[Alcon]

I changed it to Albuqerque, then.  Thanks, WMS!

Take that, you Santa Fe Yuppie Scum! No problem.

I just looked at Census data, and what you said about commuting from Albuquerque does not appear to be true.  Santa Fe is not affluent, and house prices there aren't way too much over Albuquerque.  I'm inclined to turn it back, and have for now.

Besides, Albuquerque is much bigger than Santa Fe.  Again, I'm inclined to think that it would damage Santa Fe's economy too much to make moving to Albuquerque a bad idea.

I'd like your comments on this.

[WMS]

I changed it to Albuqerque, then.  Thanks, WMS!

Take that, you Santa Fe Yuppie Scum! No problem.

I just looked at Census data, and what you said about commuting from Albuquerque does not appear to be true.  Santa Fe is not affluent, and house prices there aren't way too much over Albuquerque.  I'm inclined to turn it back, and have for now.

Besides, Albuquerque is much bigger than Santa Fe.  Again, I'm inclined to think that it would damage Santa Fe's economy.

Let's just say I disagree - there's been a long, bitter dispute over newcomers driving the original inhabitants out because they move in, build a huge house, and drive property taxes up. I believe King could tell you a bit more about that...

Perhaps we're viewing this through the prisms of our states...you're on the West Coast, where everything costs more (although pay is usually up as well)...just don't make a campaign stop in Albuquerque for a bit

[Alcon]

Let's just say I disagree - there's been a long, bitter dispute over newcomers driving the original inhabitants out because they move in, build a huge house, and drive property taxes up. I believe King could tell you a bit more about that...

Perhaps we're viewing this through the prisms of our states...you're on the West Coast, where everything costs more (although pay is usually up as well)...just don't make a campaign stop in Albuquerque for a bit

I see.  I appreciate it and all, but again, I'd have to see convincing information that it would be more beneficial to move to Albuquerque.  Anyway, in Albuquerque's honour, I'll hold off voting on that until you get a chance to find that information if it's important to you.  Again, this is more symbolic than anything, but it is kind of fun to do this trivial local stuff, isn't it? 

[Alcon]

It's been more than long enough, so please vote aye, nay, or abstain on the following items.  Voting will remain open for a week.

Amendment to Abolish Chief Justice of the Pacific Region
1. Whereas, the position of Chief Justice of the Pacific Region position is functionally useless;
2. The position of Chief Justice of the Pacific Region is hereby abolished.
3. All powers held by the Chief Justice of the Pacific Region will be reverted to their statuses prior to the establishment of the position.

Bestality Criminalisation Act
1. The abominable act of bestiality, which is defined as gross sexual imposition, sexual assault, or the committing of a deviant sexual act with an animal, shall be illegal throughout the Pacific Region.

2. Persons convicted of bestiality shall be fined a minimum of $500 or a maximum of $2,000 and/or sentenced to a minimum of six months in jail or a maximum of five years in jail.

3. This law should not be interpreted as banning sexual acts between members of the species homo sapiens.

[Alcon]

Amendment to Abolish Chief Justice of the Pacific Region - Aye

Bestality Criminalisation Act - Aye

[WMS]

Let's just say I disagree - there's been a long, bitter dispute over newcomers driving the original inhabitants out because they move in, build a huge house, and drive property taxes up. I believe King could tell you a bit more about that...

Perhaps we're viewing this through the prisms of our states...you're on the West Coast, where everything costs more (although pay is usually up as well)...just don't make a campaign stop in Albuquerque for a bit

I see.  I appreciate it and all, but again, I'd have to see convincing information that it would be more beneficial to move to Albuquerque.  Anyway, in Albuquerque's honour, I'll hold off voting on that until you get a chance to find that information if it's important to you.  Again, this is more symbolic than anything, but it is kind of fun to do this trivial local stuff, isn't it? 

How about this: Albuquerque is much more accessible to the state's population than Santa Fe, due to being centrally located and on both of the major transportation arteries?

[WMS]

Amendment to Abolish Chief Justice of the Pacific Region

Aye

Bestality Criminalisation Act

Aye

[bgwah]

Amendment to Abolish Chief Justice of the Pacific Region - Aye

Bestality Criminalisation Act - abstain

[Kevin]

Aye on both of these admendmets. 

[Platypus]

Aye on the first.

Second is more difficult. Beastiality is abhorrent but it sets a bad precedent. Still, it is so disgusting that I have to put aside those reservations and vote aye.

[George W. Hobbes]

Aye to both.

[Gabu]

Aye to both, I suppose.

[AkSaber]

Amendment to Abolish Chief Justice of the Pacific Region - Aye

Bestality Criminalisation Act - Aye

[Alcon]

Both acts have passed.

Amendment to Abolish Chief Justice of the Pacific Region passes 8-0-0.

Bestality Criminalisation Act passes 7-0-1.

[Alcon]

Does anyone desire to introduce anything at this time?

[Gabu]

OMFG LEGISLATION!!!11111

1. TEH PACIFEC SI TEH BEST REGIONE EVAR

2. TEH OTHAR REGIONES CAN GO JUMP IN A DITCH AND THEN POUR GASOLINE ON THE DITCH AND THEN LIGHT THE DITCH ON FIRE

3. go us