Pacific Legislature Official Thread

[Alexander Hamilton]

This bill attacks the forefront causes of the destuction of important honeybees in our region, a significant problem facing our large agricultural industry. Bees are essential to the pollenation of many plants, and the rapid decline in populations recently is appalling. Hopefully some fellow Pacific citizens recognize this atrocity and will work with me by either signing on this measure or adding to it as a means of improvement. Thank you. Hamilton

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I note that this region is undergoing a totally innocent population boom.

[Purple State]

I note that this region is undergoing a totally innocent population boom.

Perhaps the recent excitement will spur the legislature to be more active?

[Hash]

I note that this region is undergoing a totally innocent population boom.

Perhaps the recent excitement will spur the legislature to be more active?

I'm sure the drones will be active, as always!

[MaxQue]

I note that this region is undergoing a totally innocent population boom.

Perhaps the recent excitement will spur the legislature to be more active?

I'm sure the drones will be active, as always!

Well, he needs to act like they are not drones and than they will be active, since he will need RPP votes to be reelected. He panders to them since a while, while denying it.

[Purple State]

I note that this region is undergoing a totally innocent population boom.

Perhaps the recent excitement will spur the legislature to be more active?

I'm sure the drones will be active, as always!

Well, he needs to act like they are not drones and than they will be active, since he will need RPP votes to be reelected. He panders to them since a while, while denying it.

Is this like your new thing Max? Lord almighty. Has the JCP taken on some concerted effort to run a negative campaign against me? Or is it just Marokai and Max? Fritz had fallen into doing it at one point, but he stopped when he realized how silly it is.

But seriously Max, I'm more than willing to see you prove how I have attempted to curry favor with one party any more than the others. The truth is, you're just grasping at straws.

[MaxQue]

I note that this region is undergoing a totally innocent population boom.

Perhaps the recent excitement will spur the legislature to be more active?

I'm sure the drones will be active, as always!

Well, he needs to act like they are not drones and than they will be active, since he will need RPP votes to be reelected. He panders to them since a while, while denying it.

Is this like your new thing Max? Lord almighty. Has the JCP taken on some concerted effort to run a negative campaign against me? Or is it just Marokai and Max? Fritz had fallen into doing it at one point, but he stopped when he realized how silly it is.

But seriously Max, I'm more than willing to see you prove how I have attempted to curry favor with one party any more than the others. The truth is, you're just grasping at straws.

I hve nothing against you and I don't want your defeat. Just stop to deny the reality about some of the new voters. Someone quoting posts without adding any substance to reach 50 posts and register is suspicious.

Having three RPPers registering the same night in the Pacific is suspicious, especially just before an election.

[Ebowed]

AIDS Prevention Act Funding Extension

1. In accordance with the AIDS Prevention Act, whereby funding was only committed to FY 2008, the Pacific Government pledges $10 million towards condom distribution programs effective FY 2010.
2. The Pacific Government pledges $10 million towards needle exchange programs effective FY 2010.

x Ebowed

[Alexander Hamilton]

Where is the money coming from?

[Ebowed]

Where is the money coming from?

From that fantastic budget surplus we have always had.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Where is the money coming from?

From that fantastic budget surplus we have always had.

Well in that case....


I'd like to see some real funding data, perhaps an outline of this budget and where funds will be allocated from.

[Ebowed]

I'd like to see some real funding data,

lol, and do what with it?  Stare at it for a couple minutes?

perhaps an outline of this budget and where funds will be allocated from.

An interesting view given that you proposed a bill to fund research into medicine for bees.  (Notably, without determining how much funding this research would receive.)

Funds, of course, will be allocated from tax revenue, like any other spending proposal.

[Purple State]

Once GM I will be giving you all the information on your regional economic outlook at some point, hopefully in the first week or two. Until then you will have to guess.

[California8429]

I'd like to see some real funding data,

lol, and do what with it?  Stare at it for a couple minutes?

perhaps an outline of this budget and where funds will be allocated from.

An interesting view given that you proposed a bill to fund research into medicine for bees.  (Notably, without determining how much funding this research would receive.)

Funds, of course, will be allocated from tax revenue, like any other spending proposal.

I'd like to see funding put into how to actually stop AIDS and prevent it in the first place.

I know the answer is simple, but that doesn't stop Africa. And now all their kids will possibly carry it too

[Marokai Backbeat]

I'm reintroducing this with some changes taken into account from my discussion with Hamilton, and since we finally have our Governor.

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[Alexander Hamilton]

remove item 3 and i will support

[Marokai Backbeat]

remove item 3 and i will support

I see no reason to ban a sales tax on books. You get to the point to where you may as well suggest banning sales taxes on everything, because there's nothing special about books that require protection, unlike something like food, or something that is disproportionately consumed by poor people, such as cigarettes or alcohol. A sales tax on books is not particularly regressive or harmful, and is a constant and broad source or income, as opposed to a targeted income tax hike.

[Alexander Hamilton]

remove item 3 and i will support

I see no reason to ban a sales tax on books. You get to the point to where you may as well suggest banning sales taxes on everything, because there's nothing special about books that require protection, unlike something like food, or something that is disproportionately consumed by poor people, such as cigarettes or alcohol. A sales tax on books is not particularly regressive or harmful, and is a constant and broad source or income, as opposed to a targeted income tax hike.

We should do our best to make books more accessible to all ages and incomes. I don't actually think there is a necessity to remove the ban. Taxes on cigarettes I find helpful to the poor in that they discourage consumption, therefore an incentive for quitting, which allows them to spend their income on something else, and for health, as cigarette's are clearly not very healthy. I don't think removing the tax really brings in enough additional revenue to make a positive impact but I'm open to other's suggestions and arguments.

[Meeker]

Ugh, I have to start reading this thread now.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Ugh, I have to start reading this thread now.

Hi Governor.

[MaxQue]

I will oppose any repeal of the ban of sales taxes on books.

[Purple State]

remove item 3 and i will support

I see no reason to ban a sales tax on books. You get to the point to where you may as well suggest banning sales taxes on everything, because there's nothing special about books that require protection, unlike something like food, or something that is disproportionately consumed by poor people, such as cigarettes or alcohol. A sales tax on books is not particularly regressive or harmful, and is a constant and broad source or income, as opposed to a targeted income tax hike.

We should do our best to make books more accessible to all ages and incomes. I don't actually think there is a necessity to remove the ban. Taxes on cigarettes I find helpful to the poor in that they discourage consumption, therefore an incentive for quitting, which allows them to spend their income on something else, and for health, as cigarette's are clearly not very healthy. I don't think removing the tax really brings in enough additional revenue to make a positive impact but I'm open to other's suggestions and arguments.

Tobacco taxes are pretty much counting on continued consumption of cigarettes to provide income. They are punishing people for an uncontrollable addiction. Sin taxes are generally not backed up much by the idea that they reduce consumption. What would do much better at that is regulating marketing activities, creating tighter restrictions on companies, etc.

[Alexander Hamilton]

remove item 3 and i will support

I see no reason to ban a sales tax on books. You get to the point to where you may as well suggest banning sales taxes on everything, because there's nothing special about books that require protection, unlike something like food, or something that is disproportionately consumed by poor people, such as cigarettes or alcohol. A sales tax on books is not particularly regressive or harmful, and is a constant and broad source or income, as opposed to a targeted income tax hike.

We should do our best to make books more accessible to all ages and incomes. I don't actually think there is a necessity to remove the ban. Taxes on cigarettes I find helpful to the poor in that they discourage consumption, therefore an incentive for quitting, which allows them to spend their income on something else, and for health, as cigarette's are clearly not very healthy. I don't think removing the tax really brings in enough additional revenue to make a positive impact but I'm open to other's suggestions and arguments.

Tobacco taxes are pretty much counting on continued consumption of cigarettes to provide income. They are punishing people for an uncontrollable addiction. Sin taxes are generally not backed up much by the idea that they reduce consumption. What would do much better at that is regulating marketing activities, creating tighter restrictions on companies, etc.

To be honest, it doesn't matter to me. It has short term benefits of increased revenue witht he long term aim of reduction. We have other means of revenues, excise taxes are a convenient way to kill two birds with one stone over time. Whether they are effective in reducing consumption could probably be debated, but the potential is worth it. Regardless, the clause of removing the book tax ban is not acceptable to me.

[Marokai Backbeat]

This is silly, books are like any other commodity, if you're going to ban sales taxes on books, take it the next step and abolish all sales taxes.

There's no reason books are more special than any other product.

[Alexander Hamilton]

This is silly, books are like any other commodity, if you're going to ban sales taxes on books, take it the next step and abolish all sales taxes.

There's no reason books are more special than any other product.

I don't mind banning sales taxes on all items. But I honestly believe that books are an item that don't deserve to be taxed, publications for that matter, reading is good. Magazines, newspapers, novels, etc. should be encouraged among our citizens.