CA-SurveyUSA: Feinstein 34, Kalemkarian 6, de Leon in fourth
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Author Topic: CA-SurveyUSA: Feinstein 34, Kalemkarian 6, de Leon in fourth  (Read 2716 times)
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« on: January 10, 2018, 06:55:23 PM »
« edited: January 10, 2018, 08:57:29 PM by ERM64man »

New California poll. I added it to Wikipedia.
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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2018, 07:02:20 PM »


That's one crappy poll.
Astonishing how much SurveyUSA has fallen since the glory days of 2008.
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2018, 07:05:08 PM »

De Leon is in fourth, but there are many undecideds.
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2018, 07:05:44 PM »

6% is 2nd place? Yeah, that's not in line with other polls.
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2018, 07:05:57 PM »

For an A list pollster like SurveyUSA, they sure do release a lot of off polls.
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2018, 07:07:36 PM »
« Edited: January 10, 2018, 07:13:17 PM by ERM64man »

A candidate could theoretically finish second in a jungle primary with 6% in a race with at least 30 candidates. It isn't an open seat race. This poll is the first with more than just Feinstein, de Leon, and "others." Polling California is difficult because of the large population.
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2018, 08:28:26 PM »
« Edited: January 10, 2018, 08:31:10 PM by Tea Party Hater »

That's one crappy poll.
Astonishing how much SurveyUSA has fallen since the glory days of 2008.
How is it a crappy poll. It includes all the candidates that will currently be on the ballot.
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2018, 08:42:10 PM »

Feinstein has 49% support of all decided voters, de Leon has 6%.
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2018, 08:56:54 PM »

Feinstein has 49% support of all decided voters, de Leon has 6%.
No. This poll shows Tim Kalemkarian (R) in second with 6%. Patrick Little (R), Steven Schrader (R), and Caren Lancona (R) in third with 5%. De Leon is shown in fourth with 4%. 30% are undecided.
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2018, 08:57:28 PM »

You either have to be Rochambeau or OC/Da-Jon's literate brother.
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2018, 09:01:22 PM »

You either have to be Rochambeau or OC/Da-Jon's literate brother.
Read the poll. This poll shows 5 Rs and 8 Ds. 9 Ds counting Michael Eisen (I). This might indicate a split Democratic vote.
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2018, 11:10:04 PM »

Feinstein has 49% support of all decided voters, de Leon has 6%.
No. This poll shows Tim Kalemkarian (R) in second with 6%. Patrick Little (R), Steven Schrader (R), and Caren Lancona (R) in third with 5%. De Leon is shown in fourth with 4%. 30% are undecided.

That’s why I said decided, i.e. without the undecided voters included.
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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2018, 11:13:03 PM »

Is a sexual harassment scandal hurting his poll numbers?
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2018, 11:49:14 PM »

Is a sexual harassment scandal hurting his poll numbers?
I think it's more due to the fact that he has poor name recognition when you include all the candidates running. Most people don't who the California State Senators are. Previous polls were just him and Feinstein and the Republicans helped prop up his poll numbers in a head to head matchup. More polls with the full field of candidates will be needed in the future.
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2018, 11:58:48 PM »

It's definitely better to include all the candidates then to put everyone aside from DeLeon/Feinstein into an "other" basket. But still, I highly doubt DeLeon has only 4% support.
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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2018, 12:03:06 AM »

It's definitely better to include all the candidates then to put everyone aside from DeLeon/Feinstein into an "other" basket. But still, I highly doubt DeLeon has only 4% support.

And neither is Feinstein at 34%. Once the undecideds are removed, you get more realistic figures. Feinstein at 49% and De Leon at 6%.
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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2018, 12:16:46 AM »

I think D vs. D Senate race is a tossup right now and D vs. D Gov is Lean. Someone like Steyer or some group should really commit to spending for de Leon.
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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2018, 12:17:38 AM »

It's definitely better to include all the candidates then to put everyone aside from DeLeon/Feinstein into an "other" basket. But still, I highly doubt DeLeon has only 4% support.

And neither is Feinstein at 34%. Once the undecideds are removed, you get more realistic figures. Feinstein at 49% and De Leon at 6%.
Where would Kalemkarian be without the undecideds?
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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2018, 12:21:15 AM »

It's definitely better to include all the candidates then to put everyone aside from DeLeon/Feinstein into an "other" basket. But still, I highly doubt DeLeon has only 4% support.

And neither is Feinstein at 34%. Once the undecideds are removed, you get more realistic figures. Feinstein at 49% and De Leon at 6%.
Where would Kalemkarian be without the undecideds?

8.5%

One nitpick I have with the poll is that the poll is 53% male, when the electorate will likely be around 55% female. The numbers without undecideds also likely bring down Feinstein’s numbers as a lot more females than males are undecided. With this in mind, she’s probably hovering around the mid-high 50’s.
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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2018, 12:27:11 AM »

D vs. D races are more likely in open seat races. Many CA safe D House races are D vs. R when an incumbent doesn't retire.
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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2018, 03:40:44 AM »

Though I support Feinstein, I want De León to make the runoff in order to have both the Senate and Governors races be D vs. D so Republicans can stay home and make it easier for Democrats to flip the 7 Clinton-Republican House  seats.
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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2018, 11:07:44 AM »

Support Feinstein as well, and think that idea of primaring her is, generally, silly, but may serve it's purpose and guarantee D-D race in general.
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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2018, 04:41:03 PM »

Support Feinstein as well, and think that idea of primaring her is, generally, silly, but may serve it's purpose and guarantee D-D race in general.

de Leon is apparently term-limited in his current office, so he might see this as a prepper for future runs.
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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2018, 10:54:21 PM »

So much for de Leon being the resistance. Alison Hartson is second with AA voters.
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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2018, 11:51:04 PM »

So much for de Leon being the resistance. Alison Hartson is second with AA voters.
Hartson will not finish second in the primary. De Leon is the only Democrat who could face Feinstein, unless Tom Steyer gets in.
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