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« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2017, 10:35:41 AM »


They have added an online component and weigh their results 50/50 landline/online.
I hope they didn't just add a GCS and call it a day.
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« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2017, 10:41:36 AM »


They have added an online component and weigh their results 50/50 landline/online.
I hope they didn't just add a GCS and call it a day.

The methodology in their press release states that they used SSI, which is more or less the industry standard.
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« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2017, 10:44:35 AM »

How is it possible that there is a 19 point gap between these polls?
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« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2017, 10:48:40 AM »

How is it possible that there is a 19 point gap between these polls?

As has been said about ten times on here marty, it's differentials in turnout modeling.

Well, there were some VA-Gov polls in the days before the election that showed Gillespie up by 8 or so.
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« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2017, 10:49:56 AM »


Its not so bad, Moore will give democrats plenty of positive coverage over the next 20 or so years until he dies in office.


Um, a Moore victory should be one of the most demoralizing things for a Democrat.

In Alabama? A race that should never have been competitive in the first place?

A literal pedophile might be elected to the US Senate, and we're gonna call that a victory?

If Moore can start being used as an albatross in the same way Pelosi stopped Ossoff and Quist, then yes, it is a victory. Not as great of one, but one nonetheless.
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« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2017, 10:53:27 AM »

Well, there were some VA-Gov polls in the days before the election that showed Gillespie up by 8 or so.

Were there? I thought there were a small number showing a tiny lead for Gillespie, and that plus "momentum" and Democratic doom and gloom had people imagining Gillespie was going to win.
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« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2017, 11:04:55 AM »

How is it possible that there is a 19 point gap between these polls?

As has been said about ten times on here marty, it's differentials in turnout modeling.

Well, there were some VA-Gov polls in the days before the election that showed Gillespie up by 8 or so.

And a Q poll with Northam +17, so that's a 25-point spread.
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« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2017, 11:17:36 AM »

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« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2017, 12:13:20 PM »

I'm just waiting for Moore to be tackled on the Senate floor when he whips a gun out because someone calls him a pedophile.
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« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2017, 02:27:20 PM »

JUNK POLL!

Also, when did you people start believing Emerson polls?
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« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2017, 02:54:10 PM »

This is a more-Moore friendly poll. All these different polls just show is the race is a tossup.
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« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2017, 06:50:06 PM »

https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/940264109261631489

Nate Cohn says that this Emerson poll is only modeling a 17% black electorate. Seems very low.
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« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2017, 11:12:57 PM »

LMAO
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« Reply #38 on: December 12, 2017, 11:13:44 PM »


Are you ok now?
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« Reply #39 on: December 13, 2017, 08:25:39 AM »


A little better, thanks. Smiley
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« Reply #40 on: December 13, 2017, 10:14:16 AM »

Looks like the undoing here was weighting the sample by results of the 2016 election - an incredibly, incredibly misguided move in projecting turnout for a special election.
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« Reply #41 on: December 13, 2017, 10:20:49 AM »

Also worth noting that pushing undecided voters to pick a candidate is an incredibly risky move in polling (undecided voters are more volatile, by nature are not committed to a candidate, and are hit-or-miss regarding whether or not they actually turn out) that likely shifted the results of Emerson's tracking polls of this race towards Moore.
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« Reply #42 on: December 13, 2017, 04:01:54 PM »

Barry Burden‏ @bcburden
Analysis by UW soc grad student Nathan Seltzer says @EmersonPolling showing Moore +10 included internet respondents who might not have even been Alabama residents. #ALSen
https://t.co/gSdNZh03pV

https://twitter.com/bcburden/status/941028291414249474
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« Reply #43 on: December 13, 2017, 05:02:28 PM »

Yup, it's gone.

It was fun while it lasted.

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« Reply #44 on: December 13, 2017, 06:11:49 PM »

Emerson (as well as many internet pollsters) are obviously using unsound practices in their polling. Deeply disturbing and something the industry needs to reckon with.
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« Reply #45 on: December 13, 2017, 06:19:22 PM »

That poll had an electorate that was only 17% black. I'm surprised they didn't show an even larger Moore lead.
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