Alabama Megathread 3: Results Thread

[Bidenworth2020]

Question - will the number of write-ins be reported when the results come in Tuesday? I recall reading that they'll only report write-in numbers if the number is larger than the margin between both candidates, so will we have to wait on that?

We won't know who the write-in votes are for unless they are needed to determine the outcome, but it appears we will know the aggregate number of write-ins, the row is there on the raw AP page: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2017/by_state/AL_Page_1212.html?SITE=AP&SECTION=POLITICS

I'll kill myself
Welp, pack it up guys. Looks like Moore won by about 5,000 votes.

what if this turns out to be the exact vote total

[Rookie Yinzer]

I can't believe three-quarters of the voting eligible populace just don't care at all. It's sad because it's the voters who are casting their ballot with hate, vengeance, and scorn in their hearts are the ones who care enough to go vote.

[Holmes]

Question - will the number of write-ins be reported when the results come in Tuesday? I recall reading that they'll only report write-in numbers if the number is larger than the margin between both candidates, so will we have to wait on that?

We won't know who the write-in votes are for unless they are needed to determine the outcome, but it appears we will know the aggregate number of write-ins, the row is there on the raw AP page: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2017/by_state/AL_Page_1212.html?SITE=AP&SECTION=POLITICS

If Moore really did win by 5,000 votes I would be so disappointed.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I'm kinda surprised no one has posted this yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=HjLMAoejW-A

Luntz did a focus group consisting entirely of Roy Moore supporters and the results were...let's go with "interesting."  I'm still pretty sure Jones is gonna win, but Jesus F***ing Christ, there are some really sick people out there, to say the least.

There's a lot of scary stuff here and the whole thing is well worth watching, but these stood out to me in particular (each from different voters and for different reasons):

At 2:48: "40 years ago in Alabama, there's a lotta mommas and daddys that'd be thrilled their 14 year-old was gettin' hit on by a district attorney"

At 4:30: "This man [Moore] has more integrity than you can find in the entire Congress right now.  Don't fall for the George Soros assassination plan!" (because what good is a conspiracy theory without anti-Semitism?)

At 6:29 on why African-Americans don't vote Republican: "Well, in my opinion, they be stupid." (I don't know why, but this one also kinda stood out to me for whatever reason, probably the lack of self-awareness)

[Santander]

I posted it on the first page of this thread. The comment about blacks not voting Republican because they are stupid was rather saddening.

[Sestak]

I'm kinda surprised no one has posted this yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=HjLMAoejW-A

Luntz did a focus group consisting entirely of Roy Moore supporters and the results were...let's go with "interesting."  I'm still pretty sure Jones is gonna win, but Jesus F***ing Christ, there are some really sick people out there, to say the least.

There's a lot of scary stuff here and the whole thing is well worth watching, but these stood out to me in particular (each from different voters and for different reasons):

At 2:48: "40 years ago in Alabama, there's a lotta mommas and daddys that'd be thrilled their 14 year-old was gettin' hit on by a district attorney"

At 4:30: "This man [Moore] has more integrity than you can find in the entire Congress right now.  Don't fall for the George Soros assassination plan!" (because what good is a conspiracy theory without anti-Semitism?)

At 6:29 on why African-Americans don't vote Republican: "Well, in my opinion, they be stupid." (I don't know why, but this one also kinda stood out to me for whatever reason, probably the lack of self-awareness)

I saw something about that, but couldn't bring myself to watch it.

I'm assuming everyone there was saying stuff that was that horrendous?

[Holmes]

I posted it on the first page of this thread. The comment about blacks not voting Republican because they are stupid was rather saddening.

Yeah and Obama caused the racial division in Alabama.

[Matty]

I posted it on the first page of this thread. The comment about blacks not voting Republican because they are stupid was rather saddening.

Usually the answer I hear from Republicans willing to be even more candid is that it's because the "Democrats give them free sh!t." Sometimes with the n-word throw in there.  Which to me sounds amazingly lacking in self-awareness.

To be fair, let's not act all high and mighty here. You hear the same things said about "dumb poor whites voting GOP because they are stupid" on this board and across the political world.

There is zero political empathy anymore. We assume people vote the way they do for the worst of reasons.

[Arkansas Yankee]

We now know that Nelson has lied about the notations in the yearbook.  

Can you please quote her lie? Video or text, doesn't matter. Thanks.

I was waiting for one of you to ask that. Thank you. I refer you to the leftist Bible the Washington Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/roy-moore-accuser-amends-part-of-her-account-about-inscription/2017/12/08/d7a8acd8-dc43-11e7-b1a8-62589434a581_story.html?utm_term=.c4b87f7918ac

In that article the author stated

“In her initial statement Nelson said that Moore had written the entire inscription in her yearbook. ‘He wrote in my yearbook as follows,’ “Nelson said ‘To a sweater and more beautiful girl I could not say Merry Christmas 1977.  Love Roy Moore, Olde Hickory House.’ “ “and he signed it ‘Roy Moore D.A.’”

Thus, she admitted she lied about Moore writing the second date and the restaurant name.

Earlier in the article the author noted that Nelson was not among the women the Post had interviewed.  I would say that is called distancing.

[heatcharger]

Horrible that Grumps died and left us with Fuzzy Bear and Arkansas Confederate as our resident olds. We really do need to set age floors and ceilings.

[heatcharger]

Horrible that Grumps died and left us with Fuzzy Bear and Arkansas Confederate as our resident olds. We really do need to set age floors and ceilings.

Crap did he really die? I was wondering where he's been.

I meant metaphorically. He's taken long breaks in the past, so I assume he's probably spending time with family and such.

[Brittain33]

We now know that Nelson has lied about the notations in the yearbook.  

Can you please quote her lie? Video or text, doesn't matter. Thanks.

I was waiting for one of you to ask that. Thank you. I refer you to the leftist Bible the Washington Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/roy-moore-accuser-amends-part-of-her-account-about-inscription/2017/12/08/d7a8acd8-dc43-11e7-b1a8-62589434a581_story.html?utm_term=.c4b87f7918ac

In that article the author stated

“In her initial statement Nelson said that Moore had written the entire inscription in her yearbook. ‘He wrote in my yearbook as follows,’ “Nelson said ‘To a sweater and more beautiful girl I could not say Merry Christmas 1977.  Love Roy Moore, Olde Hickory House.’ “ “and he signed it ‘Roy Moore D.A.’”

Thus, she admitted she lied about Moore writing the second date and the restaurant name.

Earlier in the article the author noted that Nelson was not among the women the Post had interviewed.  I would say that is called distancing.

So her "lie" was saying "Olde Hickory House" as she read out the inscription, including everything that was written and signed by Moore?

And that, to you, invalidates her claim and all of the other claims about Roy Moore's assaulting and pursuing young girls? 

[GeorgiaModerate]

Horrible that Grumps died and left us with Fuzzy Bear and Arkansas Confederate as our resident olds. We really do need to set age floors and ceilings.

*ahem*

[Suburbia]

Most black people vote Democrat because of redistribution programs and the Civil Rights Act, and the belief that the GOP is hostile to them.

They are black Republicans as well, but they are seen as "sellouts" just because they believe in free enterprise, etc., respected military morale, etc.

[Arkansas Yankee]

We now know that Nelson has lied about the notations in the yearbook.  

Can you please quote her lie? Video or text, doesn't matter. Thanks.

I was waiting for one of you to ask that. Thank you. I refer you to the leftist Bible the Washington Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/roy-moore-accuser-amends-part-of-her-account-about-inscription/2017/12/08/d7a8acd8-dc43-11e7-b1a8-62589434a581_story.html?utm_term=.c4b87f7918ac

In that article the author stated

“In her initial statement Nelson said that Moore had written the entire inscription in her yearbook. ‘He wrote in my yearbook as follows,’ “Nelson said ‘To a sweater and more beautiful girl I could not say Merry Christmas 1977.  Love Roy Moore, Olde Hickory House.’ “ “and he signed it ‘Roy Moore D.A.’”

Thus, she admitted she lied about Moore writing the second date and the restaurant name.

Earlier in the article the author noted that Nelson was not among the women the Post had interviewed.  I would say that is called distancing.

So her "lie" was saying "Olde Hickory House" as she read out the inscription, including everything that was written and signed by Moore?

And that, to you, invalidates her claim and all of the other claims about Roy Moore's assaulting and pursuing young girls? 

Are you not thinking? The author said she said he had written the entire inscription.  He did not put that in quotes.  If you say the lack of quotes indicates that she was not implying the second date was written by him,  you are not thinking or analyzing very well. Why would he have ever written the date twice.

The question then arises to the signature and the D.A.  She obviously embellished  Did she embellish what he did to her?

[kyc0705]

Horrible that Grumps died and left us with Fuzzy Bear and Arkansas Confederate as our resident olds. We really do need to set age floors and ceilings.

Crap did he really die? I was wondering where he's been.

I meant metaphorically. He's taken long breaks in the past, so I assume he's probably spending time with family and such.

Actually, at least 30% of the user base here is dead, and posting online is one of our ghost hobbies. It explains why we don't seem to have souls or a sense of human empathy.

[Brittain33]

We now know that Nelson has lied about the notations in the yearbook.  

Can you please quote her lie? Video or text, doesn't matter. Thanks.

I was waiting for one of you to ask that. Thank you. I refer you to the leftist Bible the Washington Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/roy-moore-accuser-amends-part-of-her-account-about-inscription/2017/12/08/d7a8acd8-dc43-11e7-b1a8-62589434a581_story.html?utm_term=.c4b87f7918ac

In that article the author stated

“In her initial statement Nelson said that Moore had written the entire inscription in her yearbook. ‘He wrote in my yearbook as follows,’ “Nelson said ‘To a sweater and more beautiful girl I could not say Merry Christmas 1977.  Love Roy Moore, Olde Hickory House.’ “ “and he signed it ‘Roy Moore D.A.’”

Thus, she admitted she lied about Moore writing the second date and the restaurant name.

Earlier in the article the author noted that Nelson was not among the women the Post had interviewed.  I would say that is called distancing.

So her "lie" was saying "Olde Hickory House" as she read out the inscription, including everything that was written and signed by Moore?

And that, to you, invalidates her claim and all of the other claims about Roy Moore's assaulting and pursuing young girls? 

Are you not thinking? The author said she said he had written the entire inscription.  He did not put that in quotes.  If you say the lack of quotes indicates that she was not implying the second date was written by him,  you are not thinking or analyzing very well. Why would he have ever written the date twice.

The question then arises to the signature and the D.A.  She obviously embellished  Did she embellish what he did to her?

Again, I missed the quote where she said "he wrote the entire inscription." Can you help me find that? I see the paraphrase.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

We now know that Nelson has lied about the notations in the yearbook.  

Can you please quote her lie? Video or text, doesn't matter. Thanks.

I was waiting for one of you to ask that. Thank you. I refer you to the leftist Bible the Washington Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/roy-moore-accuser-amends-part-of-her-account-about-inscription/2017/12/08/d7a8acd8-dc43-11e7-b1a8-62589434a581_story.html?utm_term=.c4b87f7918ac

In that article the author stated

“In her initial statement Nelson said that Moore had written the entire inscription in her yearbook. ‘He wrote in my yearbook as follows,’ “Nelson said ‘To a sweater and more beautiful girl I could not say Merry Christmas 1977.  Love Roy Moore, Olde Hickory House.’ “ “and he signed it ‘Roy Moore D.A.’”

Thus, she admitted she lied about Moore writing the second date and the restaurant name.

Earlier in the article the author noted that Nelson was not among the women the Post had interviewed.  I would say that is called distancing.

So her "lie" was saying "Olde Hickory House" as she read out the inscription, including everything that was written and signed by Moore?

And that, to you, invalidates her claim and all of the other claims about Roy Moore's assaulting and pursuing young girls? 

Suspending disbelief like that is probably a lot easier if they have a thread or two to hang it by.

[Arkansas Yankee]

Listen folks I do not live in Alabama.  I have not been there since the 90s.  My wife has a cousin who lives there.  I have not spoken to him.

If Jones loses, I believe you can pin the loss on Allred. She is the one who has raised the question of veracity so high. In my gut I believe it is possible she wants Moore to win to put the GOP on the spot.  But mostly I think she thinks she is helping. Poor deluded woman.

Stop spitting venom at me in relation to this race.  

[Doimper]

Listen folks I do not live in Alabama.  I have not been there since the 90s.  My wife has a cousin who lives there.  I have not spoken to him.

If Jones loses, I believe you can pin the loss on Allred. She is the one who has raised the question of veracity so high. In my gut I believe it is possible she wants Moore to win to put the GOP on the spot.  But mostly I think she thinks she is helping. Poor deluded woman.

Stop spitting venom at me in relation to this race.  

"I'm wrong, but don't have the balls to admit it."

[Bidenworth2020]

Listen folks I do not live in Alabama.  I have not been there since the 90s.  My wife has a cousin who lives there.  I have not spoken to him.

If Jones loses, I believe you can pin the loss on Allred. She is the one who has raised the question of veracity so high. In my gut I believe it is possible she wants Moore to win to put the GOP on the spot.  But mostly I think she thinks she is helping. Poor deluded woman.

Stop spitting venom at me in relation to this race.  

youll see

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

I posted it on the first page of this thread. The comment about blacks not voting Republican because they are stupid was rather saddening.

Usually the answer I hear from Republicans willing to be even more candid is that it's because the "Democrats give them free sh!t." Sometimes with the n-word throw in there.  Which to me sounds amazingly lacking in self-awareness.

Which is especially ironic considering nearly every white person I know who receives Government assistance voted for Trump.

[Usili]

So we had this wonderful thing about Moore that just came out: http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/10/politics/kfile-roy-moore-aroostook-watchmen/index.html

Basically saying to get rid of the amendments after the tenth to 'eliminate many problems', but specifically in that in terms of references of amendments, it was that of both the 14th and the 17th Amendments.

[Arkansas Yankee]

We now know that Nelson has lied about the notations in the yearbook.  

Can you please quote her lie? Video or text, doesn't matter. Thanks.

I was waiting for one of you to ask that. Thank you. I refer you to the leftist Bible the Washington Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/roy-moore-accuser-amends-part-of-her-account-about-inscription/2017/12/08/d7a8acd8-dc43-11e7-b1a8-62589434a581_story.html?utm_term=.c4b87f7918ac

In that article the author stated

“In her initial statement Nelson said that Moore had written the entire inscription in her yearbook. ‘He wrote in my yearbook as follows,’ “Nelson said ‘To a sweater and more beautiful girl I could not say Merry Christmas 1977.  Love Roy Moore, Olde Hickory House.’ “ “and he signed it ‘Roy Moore D.A.’”

Thus, she admitted she lied about Moore writing the second date and the restaurant name.

Earlier in the article the author noted that Nelson was not among the women the Post had interviewed.  I would say that is called distancing.

So her "lie" was saying "Olde Hickory House" as she read out the inscription, including everything that was written and signed by Moore?

And that, to you, invalidates her claim and all of the other claims about Roy Moore's assaulting and pursuing young girls? 

Are you not thinking? The author said she said he had written the entire inscription.  He did not put that in quotes.  If you say the lack of quotes indicates that she was not implying the second date was written by him,  you are not thinking or analyzing very well. Why would he have ever written the date twice.

The question then arises to the signature and the D.A.  She obviously embellished  Did she embellish what he did to her?

Again, I missed the quote where she said "he wrote the entire inscription." Can you help me find that? I see the paraphrase.

Please do not involve yourself in mental gymnastics like that.  It is not becoming. Even the author of the article does not do that.  By distancing from her, he clearly shows he realizes the danger Nelson poses to Jones.

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

So we had this wonderful thing about Moore that just came out: http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/10/politics/kfile-roy-moore-aroostook-watchmen/index.html

Basically saying to get rid of the amendments after the tenth to 'eliminate many problems', but specifically in that in terms of references of amendments, it was that of both the 14th and the 17th Amendments.

Jones needs to run ads with this quote immediately.