What if Trump goes on pardoning spree

[jman123]

What if Trump in response to this on Flynn goes on a pardoning spree and pardons everyone like manafort and Flynn  and himself and fires Mueller.

[Person Man]

What if Trump in response to this on Flynn goes on a pardoning spree and pardons everyone like manafort and Flynn  and himself and fires Mueller.

I bet he will if he perceives that he is untouchable.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Well, Trump can't pardon for state charges, and Mueller has reportedly been coordinating with (at least) the NY state Attorney General.  It's also legally questionable whether the President can pardon himself.

I do think there's a non-trivial chance that he will fire Mueller.  That would likely create a political firestorm like Nixon's Saturday Night Massacre, and I won't venture to predict how things would go from there.

[Person Man]

Well, Trump can't pardon for state charges, and Mueller has reportedly been coordinating with (at least) the NY state Attorney General.  It's also legally questionable whether the President can pardon himself.

I do think there's a non-trivial chance that he will fire Mueller.  That would likely create a political firestorm like Nixon's Saturday Night Massacre, and I won't venture to predict how things would go from there.

It's really quite simple. The GOP is BTFO or they hold onto power and Trump consolidates it and becomes our ruler.

[Fight for Trump]

Well, Trump can't pardon for state charges, and Mueller has reportedly been coordinating with (at least) the NY state Attorney General.  It's also legally questionable whether the President can pardon himself.

I do think there's a non-trivial chance that he will fire Mueller.  That would likely create a political firestorm like Nixon's Saturday Night Massacre, and I won't venture to predict how things would go from there.

It's really quite simple. The GOP is BTFO or they hold onto power and Trump consolidates it and becomes our ruler.

[ProudModerate2]

Well, Trump can't pardon for state charges, and Mueller has reportedly been coordinating with (at least) the NY state Attorney General.  It's also legally questionable whether the President can pardon himself.

I do think there's a non-trivial chance that he will fire Mueller.  That would likely create a political firestorm like Nixon's Saturday Night Massacre, and I won't venture to predict how things would go from there.

... or they hold onto power and Trump consolidates it and becomes our ruler.

Sounds like Nazi Germany and Hitler, all over again.

[Inmate Trump]

Well, Trump can't pardon for state charges, and Mueller has reportedly been coordinating with (at least) the NY state Attorney General.  It's also legally questionable whether the President can pardon himself.

I do think there's a non-trivial chance that he will fire Mueller.  That would likely create a political firestorm like Nixon's Saturday Night Massacre, and I won't venture to predict how things would go from there.

... or they hold onto power and Trump consolidates it and becomes our ruler.

Sounds like Nazi Germany and Hitler, all over again.

Trump voters would like nothing more than for him to become a sort of emperor who can’t be voted out.

[Statilius the Epicurean]

Flynn will already have been interviewed and given witness statements to the FBI. If Trump were to pardon him all that would mean is that Flynn would be compelled to give testimony on those statements without being able to plead the fifth as he would no longer be able to incriminate himself.

[Esteemed Jimmy]

Flynn will already have been interviewed and given witness statements to the FBI. If Trump were to pardon him all that would mean is that Flynn would be compelled to give testimony on those statements without being able to plead the fifth as he would no longer be able to incriminate himself.

[junior chįmp]

Approval rating will probably drop down to 15 and then Roy Moore will try to f**k it

[Stranger in a strange land]

Approval rating will probably drop down to 15 and then Roy Moore will try to f**k it

Congratulations, sir. You win the thread.

[Sestak]

Approval rating will probably drop down to 15 and then Roy Moore will try to f**k it

Congratulations, sir. You win the thread.

[Fight for Trump]

Approval rating will probably drop down to 15 and then Roy Moore will try to f**k it

Congratulations, sir. You win the thread.

[dead0man]

credit where it's due, that was good (but my gut says it's stolen...not that there is anything wrong with that)

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

Approval rating will probably drop down to 15 and then Roy Moore will try to f**k it

Congratulations, sir. You win the thread.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

Approval rating will probably drop down to 15 and then Roy Moore will try to f**k it

Congratulations, sir. You win the thread.

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

Approval rating will probably drop down to 15 and then Roy Moore will try to f**k it

Congratulations, sir. You win the thread.

I just want to be popular, man.

[Maverick J-Mac]

No that was Obama who pardoned bad people.

[Mr. Reactionary]

I wish he'd go on a pandering spree instead.

[GoTfan]

Approval rating will probably drop down to 15 and then Roy Moore will try to f**k it

Congratulations, sir. You win the thread.

[pbrower2a]

Well, Trump can't pardon for state charges, and Mueller has reportedly been coordinating with (at least) the NY state Attorney General.  It's also legally questionable whether the President can pardon himself.

I do think there's a non-trivial chance that he will fire Mueller.  That would likely create a political firestorm like Nixon's Saturday Night Massacre, and I won't venture to predict how things would go from there.

I am also guessing that he can make deals with Attorneys-General  of Maryland and Virginia. Charges of evading state income taxes may be possible.

[BlueSwan]

Approval rating will probably drop down to 15 and then Roy Moore will try to f**k it

Congratulations, sir. You win the thread.

That was good!

But in all seriousness, I don't think it is crazy to think that Trump might get away with it. The GOP are really really in' good at finding excuses to support the unsupportable. Same with most of their voters. They are also really good at all getting on the same page and blaming democrats or Hillary's e-mails. I don't think it is unlikely that they will all call the investigation a biased witch hunt and that FOX and talk radio will go along with that. Democrats will scream about it and then most will resignate as usual.

[IceSpear]

Approval rating will probably drop down to 15 and then Roy Moore will try to f**k it

Congratulations, sir. You win the thread.

[Virginiá]

That was good!

But in all seriousness, I don't think it is crazy to think that Trump might get away with it. The GOP are really really in' good at finding excuses to support the unsupportable. Same with most of their voters. They are also really good at all getting on the same page and blaming democrats or Hillary's e-mails. I don't think it is unlikely that they will all call the investigation a biased witch hunt and that FOX and talk radio will go along with that. Democrats will scream about it and then most will resignate as usual.

Let's say that does happen, and Republicans more or less blow it off somehow. This ignores the huge impact on everyone else. It would probably bring Trump's hard ceiling down to around 32% - 35%, which dooms Republicans in general in any election held under his presidency. There is no way Trump wins reelection with that, and there is little chance Republicans don't get swept out of office in droves in 2018 and 2020.

[Badger]

Approval rating will probably drop down to 15 and then Roy Moore will try to f**k it

Congratulations, sir. You win the thread.