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Florida + Michigan
 
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Pennsylvania + Wisconsin + Michigan
 
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Florida + Arizona
 
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« on: November 29, 2017, 04:36:18 PM »

I'd say FL + MI, honestly.
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2017, 04:38:08 PM »

Agreed.
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2017, 04:45:55 PM »

In Michigan there were literally more ballots left blank than the margin between Trump and Clinton. Yeah, he snuck through by promising this and that, but the 2020 nominee would have to be pretty freaking terrible not to easily trounce Trump w/ a record.
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2017, 01:47:51 PM »

Depends on the candidate. MI should be easy to flip no matter what. PA and WI would be easier for a generic democrat, but they're likely to nominate some coastal liberal who ignores WWC voters, in which case FL is probably easier to take back than PA.
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2017, 01:55:19 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2017, 02:42:23 PM »

PA, WI, MI.
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2017, 02:43:36 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2017, 02:44:58 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2017, 02:46:40 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2017, 03:56:36 PM »

Any Democratic candidate worth their salt should be carrying MI, PA, WI, and FL handily.
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2017, 10:52:09 PM »

Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.  I really think those states will be back in the Democratic column strongly in 2020.  2016 was a fluke, in my opinion.
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« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2017, 12:33:09 AM »

WI/MI/PA were each decided by a fraction of a percent, while FL was decided by just over 1%. That alone suggests that the Great Lakes states should flip back first.

On the other hand, I would still recommend the 2020 Democratic nominee invest heavily in Florida, since that will be very helpful toward winning back the Great Lakes states (since FL has many people who formerly resided in the Great Lakes region).
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« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2017, 01:22:30 AM »

AZ, MI, WI, and NE-02

WI/MI/PA were each decided by a fraction of a percent, while FL was decided by just over 1%. That alone suggests that the Great Lakes states should flip back first.

On the other hand, I would still recommend the 2020 Democratic nominee invest heavily in Florida, since that will be very helpful toward winning back the Great Lakes states (since FL has many people who formerly resided in the Great Lakes region).

You mean the same way Nevada, Colorado, and Virginia were supposed to be vulnerable because Obama lost a bit of ground on them against Romney compared to '08? While MI/WI/PA were all 5+ points?
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« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2017, 02:39:56 AM »

Any Democratic candidate worth their salt should be carrying MI, PA, WI, and FL handily.

This. All 4. But Michigan will probably be the easiest.
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« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2017, 03:07:15 AM »

Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

FL + MI, while fewer states, is actually a more complex strategy, because the two states' electorates are very different. You're going sunbelt with one foot and rust belt with the other, and have no room for error.

PA, WI, MI, because those states all respond to the same or similar set of appeals, issues, and candidate styles-- along with MN, IA and OH as well. There are simply more battleground states in the Midwest.
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« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2017, 03:09:52 AM »

Option 2, if they abandon their disdain for the working class.
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« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2017, 09:44:25 AM »

Option 2, if they abandon their disdain for the working class.
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« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2017, 04:58:51 PM »

Wait a minute I thought Democrats didn't need to campaign in states like Michigan and Pennsylvania?  Look at how well Hillary Clinton did taking them for granted.
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« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2017, 11:39:48 AM »

FL+WI
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« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2017, 12:22:45 PM »

Michigan and Florida.

Many Michiganders though that Donald trump wouldn't be "that bad", and they were right. He has proved far, far worse. I live in a rural county that voted for Trump about 67-29, and local Republicans have since learned to downplay the Fuhrer. Maybe they saw too many stiff-arm salutes or heard his middle name replaced all too often with something that rhymes with "trucking".  This is a rural county, but if it is at all indicative, Donald Trump could lose that county... and lose the state by a 60-40 margin. I expect Michigan to have one of the biggest partisan swings in 2020.

Republicans are going to pay a high price for mishandling the hurricane in Puerto Rico.  Florida will be close, but it will be decisive.

As for Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin -- I will need to see a poll of Wisconsin. If Republicans lose the Governorship in Wisconsin, then Trump will have to win the state the hard way, as Scott Walker won't be helping him. 

But who knows? It could be that early in the evening of Election Night, Trump loses Ohio, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina before Michigan and Wisconsin are called. This President is wildly unpopular now, and I don't see what will cause him to win in 2020.... short of electoral fraud.
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« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2017, 12:32:08 PM »

Michigan and Florida.

Many Michiganders though that Donald trump wouldn't be "that bad", and they were right. He has proved far, far worse. I live in a rural county that voted for Trump about 67-29, and local Republicans have since learned to downplay the Fuhrer. Maybe they saw too many stiff-arm salutes or heard his middle name replaced all too often with something that rhymes with "trucking".  This is a rural county, but if it is at all indicative, Donald Trump could lose that county... and lose the state by a 60-40 margin. I expect Michigan to have one of the biggest partisan swings in 2020.

Republicans are going to pay a high price for mishandling the hurricane in Puerto Rico.  Florida will be close, but it will be decisive.

As for Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin -- I will need to see a poll of Wisconsin. If Republicans lose the Governorship in Wisconsin, then Trump will have to win the state the hard way, as Scott Walker won't be helping him. 

But who knows? It could be that early in the evening of Election Night, Trump loses Ohio, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina before Michigan and Wisconsin are called. This President is wildly unpopular now, and I don't see what will cause him to win in 2020.... short of electoral fraud.

If he wins, that will be the way.

He could also easily again enlist the help of his Russian buddies.
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« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2017, 09:02:08 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2017, 09:14:48 PM »

Agreed--especially due to the large exodus of Puerto Rico to Florida this year.
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« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2017, 12:41:08 AM »

Dems have to win the Governorships in both
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« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2017, 01:34:15 AM »

It's time for the democrat party to dismiss the "woke" White person. Very few of them (approximately 30%) exist. Because of this, the democrat party must focus on the only states that will actually vote for them (aka, the states that have very high miniority populations).

At best, democrats can get this at 2020:

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